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Announcement New Rules for the Player Comparison Board

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by rrravenred » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:58 am

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Hello all.

The following are all rules in our Terms of Service and things we will be cracking down from here on out.

Derailing Discussion - Users...

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Bumping old thread rule isn’t good. That’s a lot of the fun. Everyone has had bad takes (present poster excluded obviously), let’s not take ourselves...

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Poll Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

Last post by bigboi « Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:31 am
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This topic has a poll. by One_and_Done » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:00 am

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Who was more impactful?

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Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.
Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

When did Kobe sniff a ring without a...
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Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:31 am
Rank these players offensively (peak): Magic, Jordan, LeBron, Curry, Jokic

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by jalengreen » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:36 am

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To the best of your ability

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Peaks-wise, here is my list, with very short explanations that I'll edit when I have time:

1. 17/18 Lebron - Led elite offenses, very dominant...
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Poll Bobby Jones vs. Dennis Rodman

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This topic has a poll. by Ol Roy » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:16 am

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Who was the better player?

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Rodman...he did sometimes leave his man to hunt rebounds and he refused to play team defense over some snit in San Antonio and walked away from the...

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Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:36 pm
How credible is a Steph Curry GOAT case?

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by Djoker » Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:50 pm

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I feel like a case can be made.

Emphasize offensive goodness, impact on the game (small scale tactics and large scale team strategy), and ceiling...

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Very hard to put a case for him.

Accodales? No.

Longevity? No.

Prime? Maybe you can put him in tier #1.

Peak? 2016 seemed to put a case for him...
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Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:02 am
Poll Desmond Bane vs Deni Avdija

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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:14 pm

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With reports on Memphis being interested in making a move for Avdija, interesting to explore - who do you think has the higher ceiling? And who is...

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24 was his 3rd season in the league when he was 22 years old . . . that's when you would expect a player to have a significant jump if he's going to...

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Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:27 am
Best defensive season ever

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by rrravenred » Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:40 pm

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A comment by Colts18 in one of the popping-up-like-mushrooms Shaq threads made me think. He said that Ben Wallace in 2004 was the best defensive...

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Here is Robinson's 92 season. The Spurs finished #1 in D rating. More amazing was that they did that despite Robinson missing the last 14 games of...
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:55 pm
What would be the All-NBA team if all the players in history past and future played together all at their peaks?

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by kendogg » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:58 pm

If all the NBA greats played in peak healthy form with the current NBA players (also in peak healthy form) with current NBA rules (and magically grew...

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:58 pm
Poll Which of these PGs is greater?

Last post by kcktiny « Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:21 pm
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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:58 am

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Which of these PGs is greater

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Being on the floor more is usually bad actually, because you're more fatigued.

Says who, you? The reason great players are able to play heavy...
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:21 pm
What is your top 5 out of players who won 1 ring or less?

Last post by Outside « Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:34 pm
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by Cavsfansince84 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:27 am

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Notables being Oscar, West, KG, Dirk, both Malones, Barkley, CP3, Jokic, Giannis. Obviously others as well.

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Oscar
Jokic
Dirk
KG
Giannis

Was tempted to put Barkley over Giannis for the fifth spot. Actually, a fifth-place tie between Giannis, Barkley, and...

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:34 pm
Strength of conference and overall environment - How it counted for alltime greats

Last post by lessthanjake « Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:00 pm
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by migya » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:05 pm

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There are some new posters now here it looks and recently read an article (I don't read much nba related stuff anymore) that stated that the careers...

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I think there’s several factors at play:

1. In general, the amount of talent in the league is always going up, as population goes up, the game...

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:00 pm
Poll Better Offensive Impact During Prime: Steph, Larry Bird, Magic,

Last post by migya « Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:34 pm
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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:01 am

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Between these 3 players during prime

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Bird's last, offensively

Why do you think that?

He was a great passer and playmaker, more than Curry, was a very good post scorer at his position...

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:34 pm
Poll Which season was Karl Malone's peak? POLL

Last post by tsherkin « Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:43 am
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This topic has a poll. by Quotatious » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 pm

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Vote in the poll.

Malone has more than 10 seasons on a very similar level, so I couldn't put all of them in the poll. If you think his best season...

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I wish we could’ve seen peak Malone in a dynamic and versatile offensive scheme instead of the Sloan universe just once in his career.

Alongside a...

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:43 am
Poll Jack Sikma vs. Kevin McHale

Last post by tsherkin « Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:07 am
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This topic has a poll. by Ol Roy » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:04 am

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Who was better in their time, and who would you rather have today?

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Just found/saw this. Both totally relevant to the thread and pretty hilarious. McHale does a great impression of Sikma's reverse pivot and shooting...
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:07 am
Poll Largest Gap Career Wise

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:20 am

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This is if you think MJ is greater than Bird

Lebron is greater than Bird

And Magic is greater than Steph

Obviously this poll doesn’t apply if...

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Would anybody’s answer not be LeBron > Bird lol

Not voting bc I don’t check all 3 boxes but still feels trivial

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Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:46 am
Poll Best Role Player on the Pacers outside of The Big 3

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:06 pm

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I'm sure Mathurin is going to get this.

He's a bonafide 6th man type.

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Never heard Hali/Pascal/Myles called a Big 3 before. Honestly, when I read the thread, Myles was who came to mind before I thought about "Big...

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Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:07 am
John Stockton is underrated here

Last post by One_and_Done « Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:42 pm
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by lessthanjake » Wed May 28, 2025 9:37 pm

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I’m interested in a discussion about John Stockton—who I think people on this particular forum underrate.

It seems to me that the data we have on...

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Is Stockton the player with the biggest discrepancy between his "advanced stats" and reputation?
Nah, there are all manner of odd role...
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Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:42 pm
Poll Pascal Siakam = HOFer?

Last post by tsherkin « Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:09 pm
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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:45 pm

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Is Siakam already a future hall of famer?

Two All NBA (second, third)
One time champion
Another finals and possibly championship
East FMVP
Another...

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Just for an analytic perspective here, here's the RAPM VORP leaderboard from my recent Englemann-based study for the 2008 draft:

1. Russell...
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Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:09 pm
Poll Which Defensive PF/C Combination would you take?

Last post by Dr Positivity « Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:53 pm
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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:35 am

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Combo #1.
PF: Draymond Green
C: Hakeem Olajuwon

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PF: Giannis
C: Ben Wallace

Combo #3.
PF: Dennis Rodman
C: David Robinson...

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Draymond and Hakeem if only taking D.

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Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:53 pm
Poll Who do you rank higher all-time, Elgin Baylor or Kawhi Leonard?

Last post by tsherkin « Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:01 pm
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This topic has a poll. by Sailor Haumea » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:55 pm

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With Kawhi now having played just one fewer season than Baylor, I'm curious who people generally rank higher.

I personally lean towards Kawhi due to...

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I don't really see a compelling argument for Baylor at this stage. He was an important player in his time, popular, a high-scoring guy, very athletic...

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Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:01 pm
Poll Replace 2005-2010 Steve Nash with 2016-2021 Steph Curry.

Last post by Top10alltime « Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:45 pm
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This topic has a poll. by AMW27 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:47 am

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How many titles do the Suns win?

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If you included 2015 here, I would have to reconsider my thoughts, as Steph wasn't close to his peak level (not better than CP3 that season, who was...
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Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:45 pm
Poll Ben Mathurin vs Trey Murphy

Last post by JimmyFromNz « Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:53 pm
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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:23 am

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Both have flashes of potential stardom. Both display good two way ability. Who would you rather have going forward?

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Trey Murphy, and personally I don't really give it a second thought.

Trey is the superior shooter, playmaker and defender. Whilst his work off the...

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Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:53 pm
Comparing Players’ RAPM to their BPM - Assessing Who Gets Advantaged by Box Metrics

Last post by lessthanjake « Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:16 pm
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by lessthanjake » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:24 am

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There’s been a lot of assertions made in these forums about whose impact is most underestimated or overestimated by box metrics. This is a relevant...

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An interesting related thing I just found:

Before creating BPM, the creator of it did a similar type of comparison as I’ve done here, in order to...
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Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:16 pm
Poll Prime Dwight Howard in current NBA

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This topic has a poll. by AStark1991 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:45 pm

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How well do you think Dwight Howard in his peak form would translate to the modern style of play and where do you think he would rank in the league...

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From 07-08 through 10-11, other than LeBron he was the best player in the league (KG, CP3, Wade, Dirk also were in the conversation here and there)....

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Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:55 pm
Poll Sidney Moncrief vs Gary Payton

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This topic has a poll. by AStark1991 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:28 pm

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Two of the greatest defensive guards in league history and consistent 20 PPG scorers during their best offensive seasons. Who do you think was the...

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I'm looking at bbr-com and it looks like DeRozan's peak TS Added year was 2020 in San Antonio, 95.1 TS Added but still under a hundred.

Yes, 95...

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Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:18 pm
Poll Is Jokic already a Top 6 C of all time?

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 4:43 am

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A majority of the time the top 5 in some order

Kareem
Bill
Wilt
Shaq
Hakeem

Followed by Moses and David however I imagine Jokic is already...

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Basically asking if Jokic has passed David Robinson? I'm fairly career value focused so I'll say no as of now
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