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Announcement Our Conversation about Projects (continued)

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by Doctor MJ » Thu Aug 7, 2025 4:36 pm

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Alright, so as mentioned with the Scandal thread , we're now moving on to a new thread where we're just talking about running projects going forward...

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There’s been some talk of various minor projects we could do. Best offensive players at each position, best defensive players, best teams, restarting...
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Announcement New Rules for the Player Comparison Board

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by rrravenred » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:58 am

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Hello all.

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Notifications about them came to me in the opposite order, I am seeing if I can revoke the warning and make it unoffical.

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Pt 1. Of the CEO Top 25 players of all time: Intro and the career analysis of Bill Russell

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by ceoofkobefans » Fri Jan 6, 2023 1:05 am

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Hello I am ceo! I have been trying to use this forum more often and want to get some heavy interaction discussions and I thought no better way to do...

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The Celtics are still a very clearly elite team outside of Russell
Just like 1994 Bulls were elite without Jordan, but you don't use it against...
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Mon Jan 9, 2023 1:54 am
Is an offense with a single dominant scorer still less efficient?

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by penbeast0 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 1:19 pm

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With the explosion of big scoring games in the modern NBA, there has been discussion about how coaches are moving to offenses where the star(s) take...

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Bucks are currently playing a helio offense around Giannis out of necessity. It's a slog without PG play having him create everything from the...
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Sun Jan 8, 2023 8:33 pm
How were Jokic and Luka able to break the advanced defensive rating codes?

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by dygaction » Sun Jan 1, 2023 8:07 pm

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Obviously not many people think they are great defenders, but on BBRef, Jokic is #1 in DBPM and Luka is #3. The other top 5 are Caruso, Embiid,...

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Everyone should probably just read the post where the creator of BPM explains everything about BPM: The values and flaws of a box score only...

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Sun Jan 8, 2023 5:59 pm
NBA's All-Time Skinny team

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by penbeast0 » Thu Jan 5, 2023 7:16 pm

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Given where they actually played (think small guard, big guard btw, not point guard, shooting guard for guys like Magic and Byron Scott), who would...

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Phil Hubbard
Mike Green
Louis Orr

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Sun Jan 8, 2023 3:20 am
Poll Best Average Prime Year?

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 6:54 pm

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Best Average Prime Year?

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I'm pretty much with the conventional wisdom here. Ewing seems on first thought to be the most dominant; Stockton is the other possible choice but...

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Sun Jan 8, 2023 12:59 am
Which team improves most with Peak Manu Ginobili?

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by Matt15 » Fri Jan 6, 2023 2:18 am

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Which current team would you say improves the most with Peak Ginobili?

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Manu's game fits just everywhere. He can play on ball, off ball, spotting up, cutting, POA defense, nail defense, some rim protection... and no issue...

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Sat Jan 7, 2023 9:58 pm
Ranking the biggest legacy defining losses in NBA history.

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by coastalmarker99 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:57 am

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1 1968 Ecf as had the 76ers closed out Boston in five as they did the year prior.

Wilt would have basically sealed the debate between him and...

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I'm going with the Indiana Pacers losing to the Chicago Bulls in the 1997-98 NBA Eastern Conference Finals in game 7.

Imagine Reggie Miller stopping...
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Sat Jan 7, 2023 11:26 am
Worst season on/off for a rotation player?

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by Owly » Mon Jan 2, 2023 10:32 pm

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Just random nonsense. Feel free to move if not within PC remit.

I just remembered seeing Chris Morris's 1997 on-off of -35.0 and being shocked,...

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Was going through some data a while back and found numbers for Olowokandi and JJ Hickson that speak to the powers of KG and James to elevate terrible...

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Sat Jan 7, 2023 9:15 am
1995 Finals with 2000 Shaq

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by Laimbeer » Fri Jan 6, 2023 11:47 pm

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If the 1995 Finals had been played with Shaq at his peak, who wins? All other players in 1995 form.

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What are the assumptions (I see "1995 form" but at what point average or finals)?

If it's everyone else at the level they were in that...

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Sat Jan 7, 2023 12:23 am
Where would Nikola Jokic rank in the 90’s?

Last post by tsherkin « Fri Jan 6, 2023 2:28 pm
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by Matt15 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 12:49 am

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Where would Jokic rank in the 90’s among centers and overall?

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In the case of early Kareem I think he also simply lacked strength to bully himself to the basket.

Early Kareem had his best FTrs, though. Rookie...
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Fri Jan 6, 2023 2:28 pm
Poll Who wins this? Team MJ or Team Magic/Bird

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Tue Jan 3, 2023 7:18 pm

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Team MJ

PG: John Stockton
SG: 1992 MJ
SF: Pippen
PF: Karl Malone
C: Patrick Ewing

Team Magic/Bird 5

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Clyde Drexler...

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You call it Bird/Magic team when peak Hakeem has a strong argument over both… Team 2 easily have 2/3/4 best players

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Fri Jan 6, 2023 6:12 am
Third Best player of the 00's

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by Matt15 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 9:12 pm

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Same as the 90's thread, which player would you say is the third best of the 2000's? I personally have Duncan and Kobe as the two best of the 00's so...

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This is pretty accurate to me, the. You move LBJ down one tier. CP3, Curry and kd… were too young to participate
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Thu Jan 5, 2023 10:47 pm
Poll Stephen Curry/Reggie Miller vs Karl Malone/Shaquille O'Neal

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This topic has a poll. by Matt15 » Wed Jan 4, 2023 9:41 pm

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Which duo would you rather build around in today's league?

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Malone is way better than Miller IMO, so Shaq/Malone

Curry/Miller would be super easy to build around, though

Both duos are easy to build around

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Thu Jan 5, 2023 5:12 pm
How would adding one extra title to a Goat's career change our present day narratives about them on this board?

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by coastalmarker99 » Sun Jan 1, 2023 10:44 am

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In this hypothetical situation where our goats add an extra ring to their careers in one of the years that they had a realistic chance of winning...

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I'm not sure how far down the list we are qualifying as "a GOAT" but seeing as CP3, Barkley and Havlicek are mentioned I'll just add...

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Thu Jan 5, 2023 11:58 am
Poll Third best player of the 90s

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This topic has a poll. by durantbird » Tue Jan 3, 2023 9:08 pm

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Following the Jokic in the 90s discussion - assuming MJ and Hakeem are the two best players, who is the 3rd best player of the era?

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Now that I think about it, I do see a clear argument for Malone.

Depending on how you treat Robinson's injuries; you could argue Robinson lost 2...
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Thu Jan 5, 2023 6:30 am
Poll Which improvement helps Luka the most?

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This topic has a poll. by dygaction » Sun Jan 1, 2023 6:45 am

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Luka is averaging 5ppg more than last year, career high in ppg, FG%, 3pt%, ast, ast/to, steal, almost all advanced stats, and mpg. Almost another MIP...

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more refs 11.4 FTA per game

If you were watching the games, he's shooting less FT's than he deserves. So your attempt to troll Luka actually ends...
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Wed Jan 4, 2023 8:29 pm
Poll Jimmy Butler vs Allen Iverson and Ray Allen

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This topic has a poll. by Narigo » Mon Jan 2, 2023 12:11 am

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Do you think prime Jimmy is better than Allen Iverson and Ray Allen in their primes and do you think he's going rank higher on your ATL once it said...

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hard to compare people to jimmy because jimmy misses so many games - the ones he does play in, he's always fresh. basically zero wear and tear. the...

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Wed Jan 4, 2023 3:27 pm
The Walton-to-Eaton Opening: Is it possible guards really deserved DPOY?

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by Doctor MJ » Sun Jan 1, 2023 10:12 pm

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So, in general I think it's been clear in NBA basketball basically since its inception that the most valuable defenders tend to be bigs, and that the...

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Over the 7 year stretch of 1979-80 to 1985-86, Boston was the league's 2nd best team defensively at 102.0 pts/100poss allowed. The only team better...
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Wed Jan 4, 2023 1:22 am
Perfect second option for Luka Doncic

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by Matt15 » Mon Jan 2, 2023 3:02 am

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Currently or historically who would you say is the perfect second option for Luka Doncic.

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Somebody mentioned Klay, I like that. Luka attracts so much attention you really need somebody who can punish the closeout - whether with a super...

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Tue Jan 3, 2023 11:51 pm
All-time Draft (with real positions where the players were picked)

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by -Luke- » Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:59 pm

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I went through all drafts and tried to determine who is the best player ever picked at this position.

With some players it was difficult. George...

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Man Kawhi doesn't even get a mention at 15.
You're right. Brain fart on my part. He definitely deserves a mention. Pick 15 is strong.

And in that...

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Tue Jan 3, 2023 8:41 am
Ringless GOAT - Paul vs Malone

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by Dr Positivity » Sun Jan 1, 2023 6:37 am

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On last RealGM list (Oct 2020) Malone finished 16, Barkley 21 and Paul 23. Paul had a great 21 and 22 so I'd figure he's favored over Barkley, and...

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Emphasis on Peak play and shorter prime play really gives CP3 an edge.

Sure. But it's more shaky than it should be given Cp's nagging and...
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Tue Jan 3, 2023 12:02 am
Poll Nikola Jokic vs Larry Bird

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This topic has a poll. by Narigo » Mon Jan 2, 2023 12:23 am

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Who better on offense and who's better in prime

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Seems to be a common refrain whenever anyone dares mention an ‘80s/‘90s great.

"You cannot talk objectively about a player if you didnt grow...
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Mon Jan 2, 2023 10:52 pm
Marion vs Siakam vs Artest

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by durantbird » Mon Jan 2, 2023 10:35 am

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How do you compare the three's primes? Who'd you rather have in your team?

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I have Marion out front of Siakam mainly for his defensive impact but Siakam with another 2-3 years at his peak could move ahead due to his superior...

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Mon Jan 2, 2023 4:19 pm
Winshares,winshares/48 and on/off metrics

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by migya » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:26 pm

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Of all the advanced metrics winshares seems to be the best at indicating the value of a player. Contribution to winning is the aim of any player and...

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so this seems to get at the point i was talking about in our other back and forth about all of these metrics:

setting aside PER for a second,...
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Mon Jan 2, 2023 3:13 pm
Poll Better Defensive Team: All Help Defensive Team or All Man Defensive Team

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:14 am

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Better Defensive Team: All Help Defensive Team or All Man Defensive Team

Strictly defense, offense not included.

All Help Defensive Team

PG:...

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All Help

Sent from my SM-G975U using RealGM mobile app

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