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Announcement Our Conversation about Projects (continued)

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by Doctor MJ » Thu Aug 7, 2025 4:36 pm

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Alright, so as mentioned with the Scandal thread , we're now moving on to a new thread where we're just talking about running projects going forward...

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There’s been some talk of various minor projects we could do. Best offensive players at each position, best defensive players, best teams, restarting...
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Announcement New Rules for the Player Comparison Board

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by rrravenred » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:58 am

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Hello all.

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Notifications about them came to me in the opposite order, I am seeing if I can revoke the warning and make it unoffical.

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GOAT lists and the metaphysics of player comparisons

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by Tim Lehrbach » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:41 am

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I'm gonna choose this moment to quietly re-enter the Player Comparisons fray after a long time away from regular participation. Such re-entry will be...

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2) In terms of why I rank as I do, well, I've been a compulsive ranker from a young age. While other kids were drawing pictures, I had notebooks...

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Poll More Overrated Dynasty Member; Rodman or Draymond

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This topic has a poll. by Red Pill Sports » Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:30 am

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Mr. Triple Single or a guy who averaged 2 points and 8 rebounds his last two Finals with single digit rebounds 9 out of his last 12 Finals games?...

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I voted Rodman but would have voted neither if that was an option. Rodman was not overrated and Draymond is not overrated.

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The NBA's Greatest Sportsmen

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by Tim Lehrbach » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:54 pm

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I want to keep this very general at first, but if there's interest in the topic, we can make a li'l project of it or take whatever direction will...

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Great thread
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Poll Who would have drawn the first fight?

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:31 am

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Who would have drawn the first fight?

I know that Ron Artest wasn't a PF but he will at some point be in contact with these guys.

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Have any of these guys actually legitimately been in a fight? Draymond has nut kicked a few guys, and sucker punched an unsuspecting teammate. Ron...

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Poll Who is in your GOAT tier?

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This topic has a poll. by pipfan » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:57 pm

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Who would you say has a credible argument to be the GOAT? Of course this doesn't necessarily mean you think they are the GOAT, but just that the...

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Feels like this discussion is getting a bit too loose as 1996 is not a jordan peak year.

Jordan peak years like 89-90 the bulls actuallt won less...
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A GOAT Candidate Is Worth Two Equal Value Players of What Tier?

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by onedayattatime » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:52 pm

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this might sound like i'm high, but i was thinking that for utah in the 90s, it wouldn't have seemed worth it to trade malone and stockton (two top...

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I'll come at it along two axis.

Skill/talent/whatever you want to call it and fit.

Many levels to skill, but rough tiering here with...
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Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:42 am
Poll Which 3 Year version of MJ is the best?

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:00 am

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Which 3 Year version of MJ is the best?

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90-93, he was still uber athletic but now had the mind and experience to match.

It isn't 90-93, the option is either 88-90 or 91-93.

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Poll Stephen Curry/Draymond Green vs James Harden/David Robinson

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Peak only which duo would you rather have?

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Poll Better Tandem: Oscar Robertson/Kareem or Curry/KD

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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:05 am

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Better Tandem: Oscar Robertson/Kareem or Curry/KD

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Given the multitude of ways you could compare them, my initial take is that it's going to be Oscar/Kareem almost every time. I have Curry higher than...

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Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:58 pm
Top 10 PF seasons, since 1990

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by SHAQ32 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:14 am

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You can only choose a player once.

The reason I chose 1990 is that that was the beginning of one of the golden ages at the position, with Larry...

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1. 2003 Tim Duncan
2. 2004 Kevin Garnett
3. 2022 Giannis Antetokoumnpo
4. 2011 Dirk
5. 2020 Anthony Davis
6. 1998(?) Karl Malone
7. 1993 Charles...

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Top 10 seasons for a center since 1990

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by Homer38 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:52 pm

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You can only choose a player once

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1. 2000 Shaquille O’Neal
2. 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon
3. 1995 David Robinson
4. 2022 Nikola Jokic
5. 2022 Joel Embiid
6. 1991 Patrick Ewing
7. 2011...
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RS vs PS production

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by 70sFan » Wed Dec 7, 2022 1:42 pm

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Hi, I have been thinking lately about the best players with big drops in career averages from RS to PS. In many cases, it could be explained by...

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i made a spreadsheet in like 2010 (maybe earlier?) that did just this for 75 of the greatest players, i think weighing everything by minutes since i...
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Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:15 am
Poll 08 Suns with 85 Kareem

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This topic has a poll. by Narigo » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:23 pm

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Replacing Shaq with 85 Kareem

How far can the Suns go with a half season with Kareem assuming he average around same numbers in 85??

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Shaq was kind of ass that year from what I remember. The Suns went 18-10 with him in the regular season and 37-17 without him. Was he even better...

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Allen Iverson vs Pete Maravich

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by SHAQ32 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:56 am

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Who was better?

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That's true, but not much proof in his favor either way.

Is Maravich the most overrated superstar of the 1970's?

Has anyone played on worse teams...
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Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:29 pm
Poll Power Rank the best defenders for Zion of all time...

Last post by 70sFan « Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:12 am
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This topic has a poll. by mdonnelly1989 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:26 am

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Was speaking with someone about who the best defender for Zion would be...

Its almost certainly probably Dennis Rodman when you factor his...

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You need someone very strong and quick, preferably with length advantage. Given Giannis relative success against him, I'd take Nate Thurmond, who was...

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Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:12 am
Top 10 SG seasons, since 1999

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by SHAQ32 » Fri Dec 9, 2022 10:47 pm

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You can't pick the same player twice.

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Gonna do peaks (1 year per player) so there’s more guys

1. 2008 Kobe Bryant
2. 2009 Dwyane Wade
3. 2020 James Harden
4. 2003 Tracy McGrady
5....

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Poll Peak Orlando Shaq V Current Giannis

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Peak Orlando Shaq V Current Giannis

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Poll James Wiseman vs Bol Bol

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This topic has a poll. by Ryoga Hibiki » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:20 pm

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Who would you take going forward?
Not just this year

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That's my point - he's not very good right now. He is still learning how to play the game; in terms of games played he hasn't even completed a rookie...

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Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:47 pm
Where does Elton Brand's 2006 season rate among PFs post merger

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by migya » Fri Dec 9, 2022 4:53 am

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Elton Brand is underrated and not often mentioned in comparison to great PFs. He was on a bad Clippers team for years. His 2006 season was his best:...

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He had more high level opponents at his position than Davis and that makes his best season look even better in that regard.

Maybe, but 2020 AD was...

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Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:26 pm
With the insane level of talent in the league right now are we likely to see fewer dominant and fewer really bad teams?

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by ardee » Thu Dec 8, 2022 10:13 am

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It is legitimately bonkers how loaded the league is right now.

You have at least 8 guys who all have legitimate top 5 cases: Giannis, Jokic, Curry,...

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The clusters will be looser. Like the top teams that are legit contenders are probably increasing. And then playoff contenders are more filled out...
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Poll Reggie Miller vs Moses Malone

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This topic has a poll. by Matt15 » Fri Dec 9, 2022 1:56 am

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Who would you rather build a team around in todays league?

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No moses wasn’t Dirk or Jokic as a shooter, far from it but with time to adapt I don’t think he’s any worse than Giannis in that area.
I think Moses...
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Fri Dec 9, 2022 10:23 pm
I think Jaylen Brown deserves more consideration for best SG in the league...

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by mdonnelly1989 » Fri Dec 9, 2022 5:34 am

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You're top 3 ATM are probably

Mitchell
Booker
Jaylen

I think Jaylen can score with both of them as the #1 guy but because he splits shots with...

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1. He is hybrid of SG/SF, but looks more SF for me.
2. Shai could be by far the best SG. He has it all

A defence
B play making
C scoring
D shooting

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Fri Dec 9, 2022 10:05 pm
Swap '77 Walton and '00 Shaq

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by Laimbeer » Thu Dec 8, 2022 2:03 pm

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Do both teams still win the title? Who gets better or worse?

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I don't know a ton about the 77 team but I don't think Shaq would take that team all the way. They played a very different brand of ball then what...

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Fri Dec 9, 2022 3:16 am
Ewing was a beast

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by migya » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:04 pm

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Defense wasn't stopping this go. Truly great, forgotten big. The inside play of past eras was a thing of beauty.

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I always liked Patrick Chewing. Had his jersey when I was younger.
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Fri Dec 9, 2022 2:07 am
What’s the highest and lowest reasonable ranking for Giannis’ peak?

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by No-more-rings » Thu Dec 8, 2022 9:34 pm

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Giannis went 13th in our peaks project just a few months ago.

I guess how much room do you see to argue above and below that number?

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I could see it arguably cracking fringe-top ten. Low-balling would place it near 20 for me, but not quite lower.

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