Bulls @ Hornets 12pm CT Apr. 6 2025

[MissileMike]

I really don't understand all this trade Coby talk?
In order not having to pay him we should trade a potential star, who seems to have a good character and fits very well with what we have in place for
1) another potential star, of whom we do not know if he pans out
or
2) a proven, but unhappy star in his prime whom we have to pay even sooner and whoms best two upcoming years we would waste, because right now we do have a young unexperienced team

Sounds like a stupid logic to me

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

You sure do speak in absolutes.

Coby is playing like a star. We shall see if he sustains it or can take it to another level.

Stars today are paid 45+M per. Not 30M. 30 gets you solid starter with potential.

Sometimes teams have a star and don't even realize it. The clips had SGA, for example.

[Chi town]

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

You sure do speak in absolutes.

Coby is playing like a star. We shall see if he sustains it or can take it to another level.

Stars today are paid 45+M per. Not 30M. 30 gets you solid starter with potential.

Sometimes teams have a star and don't even realize it. The clips had SGA, for example.

Stars are developed and take time. It’s not linear. Roster construction, role, and chemistry determine a ton.

[eierluke]

I really don't understand all this trade Coby talk?
In order not having to pay him we should trade a potential star, who seems to have a good character and fits very well with what we have in place for
1) another potential star, of whom we do not know if he pans out
or
2) a proven, but unhappy star in his prime whom we have to pay even sooner and whoms best two upcoming years we would waste, because right now we do have a young unexperienced team

Sounds like a stupid logic to me

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

Further who are the stars worth trading for?
You can exclude everyboy born 97 or later or older, otherwise you can't construct a competitive team before they'll turn 30.
The remaing Group 1 (players not over 28 and superior to Coby) is small
- Cade Cunningham
- Anthony Edwards
- Evan Mobley
- Gileus Alexander
- Alperen Sengum
- Victor Wembanyana
- Luka Donic
- Paolo Banchero
- Trae Young (with questionmarks to me)
- Tyrese Maxey

You can also make an argument for another Group 2 of players. But they are slightly superior at best and aren't MVP material anyway
-Darius Garland
-Tyler Herro
-Jarren Jackson jr
-Jalen Williams
-Tyrese Haliburton
-Bam Adebayo
-Scottie Barnes
-Franz Wagner

and then there remains Group crazy Zion Williamson and Ja Morant, who have just in theory superior talent

In case on of the Group 1 players becomes available, let's try, but please let's not go after aging headcases a la Durant or Butler

[FriedRise]

Coby may have scored 37 points, but he needed a bunch of free throws to get there.

Zach's 37 points tho without any FTs

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[cocktailswith_2short]

Coby may have scored 37 points, but he needed a bunch of free throws to get there.

Zach's 37 points tho without any FTs

Read on Twitter

He could score 50 ,and I wouldn't care he'll make it a 100 ...it wouldn't change my low opinion of him.

[DuckIII]

Coby may have scored 37 points, but he needed a bunch of free throws to get there.

Zach's 37 points tho without any FTs

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Free throws are good. This isn’t the positive/negative contrast you appear to think it is. Free throws are not subject to wild hot and cold swings because it is literally the exact same unguarded shot every time. And saddles the opposition with fouls.

Scoring 37 with zero free throws is extremely impressive but is also less valuable production.

[sco]

Coby may have scored 37 points, but he needed a bunch of free throws to get there.

Zach's 37 points tho without any FTs

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Free throws are good. This isn’t the positive/negative contrast you appear to think it is. Free throws are not subject to wild hit and cold swings because it is literally the exact same unguarded shot every time. And saddles the opposition with fouls.

Scoring 37 with zero free throws is extremely impressive but is also less valuable production.

I'll add that I am a bit concerned about Coby's future durability as he is getting the sh*t beaten out of him getting to the line. I'll contrast that Giddey who is drawing many of his fouls by barreling into guys faster than they can backpedal.

[Dan Z]

Will the Bull catch Atlanta in the standings? And do you want them to do so?

[bullskokie]

Will the Bull catch Atlanta in the standings? And do you want them to do so?

Yes sure. Reinsdorf would love that too. Potential 2x sold out games at the UC equals $$$

[FriedRise]

Remaining schedule:
Atlanta plays @ORL, @BKN, @PHI (b2b), vs ORL
Orlando plays vs ATL, vs BOS (b2b), @ IND, @ ATL
Miami plays @PHI, @CHI, @NO, vs WSH
Chicago plays @CLE, vs MIA (b2b), vs WSH, @PHI

Miami has the easiest remaining schedule by far playing all sub-.500 teams with no back to backs. They probably can win out and end the season 39-43.
Atlanta has the second easiest though they have 2 huge games that will determine their seeding against Orlando.
Orlando has the toughest schedule playing Atlanta twice and then 2 teams over .500 with a back to back in between, though Indiana can decide to sit their guys since they're pretty much locked into the 4th seed. We own the tiebreaker against these guys.

We have the second toughest schedule playing one of the best teams in the league (that just lost to the Kangz) and then an important game vs Miami the following day. If we lose those 2 games, we'll likely drop back to #10 and stay there unless Orlando loses out.

[DuckIII]

Coby may have scored 37 points, but he needed a bunch of free throws to get there.

Zach's 37 points tho without any FTs

Read on Twitter

Free throws are good. This isn’t the positive/negative contrast you appear to think it is. Free throws are not subject to wild hit and cold swings because it is literally the exact same unguarded shot every time. And saddles the opposition with fouls.

Scoring 37 with zero free throws is extremely impressive but is also less valuable production.

I'll add that I am a bit concerned about Coby's future durability as he is getting the sh*t beaten out of him getting to the line. I'll contrast that Giddey who is drawing many of his fouls by barreling into guys faster than they can backpedal.

A lot of that is Coby selling the contact. Plus he’s built and reacts to contact like a brick wall and a superball had a baby. With lots of hair.

[Dez]

I really don't understand all this trade Coby talk?
In order not having to pay him we should trade a potential star, who seems to have a good character and fits very well with what we have in place for
1) another potential star, of whom we do not know if he pans out
or
2) a proven, but unhappy star in his prime whom we have to pay even sooner and whoms best two upcoming years we would waste, because right now we do have a young unexperienced team

Sounds like a stupid logic to me

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

You sure do speak in absolutes.

Coby is playing like a star. We shall see if he sustains it or can take it to another level.

Stars today are paid 45+M per. Not 30M. 30 gets you solid starter with potential.

He's basically LaVine and LaVine didn't get 30M.

[FriedRise]

Tuesday @ Cavs (per Underdog NBA):
Coby out
Huerter out
Giddey questionable
Vooch questionable

Mitchell out

Looks like Bulls are treating this as a schedule loss to make sure that the starters are rested for the more important Miami game Wednesday.

[BullChit]

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

You sure do speak in absolutes.

Coby is playing like a star. We shall see if he sustains it or can take it to another level.

Stars today are paid 45+M per. Not 30M. 30 gets you solid starter with potential.

He's basically LaVine and LaVine didn't get 30M.

Possible correction: If the freethrow rate sustains
He's Zach Lavine who can get to the free throw line..

[BullChit]

Tuesday @ Cavs (per Underdog NBA):
Coby out
Huerter out
Giddey questionable
Vooch questionable

Mitchell out

Looks like Bulls are treating this as a schedule loss to make sure that the starters are rested for the more important Miami game Wednesday.

Not mad at that.

[Jcool0]

Lets all cheer for Matas to go for 50.

[kodo]

Tuesday @ Cavs (per Underdog NBA):
Coby out
Huerter out
Giddey questionable
Vooch questionable

Mitchell out

Looks like Bulls are treating this as a schedule loss to make sure that the starters are rested for the more important Miami game Wednesday.

Good, Giddey should also be out. We're at the point where you they need to rest up for the play-in game and we recover from small injuries that have been piling up. Giddey has been "questionable" since the 2 LA games. Get him 100%.

I think the fact that he's been banged up is noticeable in the paint recently.

[Dez]

You sure do speak in absolutes.

Coby is playing like a star. We shall see if he sustains it or can take it to another level.

Stars today are paid 45+M per. Not 30M. 30 gets you solid starter with potential.

He's basically LaVine and LaVine didn't get 30M.

Possible correction: If the freethrow rate sustains
He's Zach Lavine who can get to the free throw line..

So he's only scoring at LaVine levels because of FTs? Doesn't that say more about LaVine's ability to score than Coby's?

[Dez]

I really don't understand all this trade Coby talk?
In order not having to pay him we should trade a potential star, who seems to have a good character and fits very well with what we have in place for
1) another potential star, of whom we do not know if he pans out
or
2) a proven, but unhappy star in his prime whom we have to pay even sooner and whoms best two upcoming years we would waste, because right now we do have a young unexperienced team

Sounds like a stupid logic to me

Your logic is flawed from the beginning, Coby isn't a star but will be paid like one and that's why you trade him.

It's better to try and find a real star than pay someone who isn't a star but will be paid like one.

Further who are the stars worth trading for?
You can exclude everyboy born 97 or later or older, otherwise you can't construct a competitive team before they'll turn 30.
The remaing Group 1 (players not over 28 and superior to Coby) is small
- Cade Cunningham
- Anthony Edwards
- Evan Mobley
- Gileus Alexander
- Alperen Sengum
- Victor Wembanyana
- Luka Donic
- Paolo Banchero
- Trae Young (with questionmarks to me)
- Tyrese Maxey

You can also make an argument for another Group 2 of players. But they are slightly superior at best and aren't MVP material anyway
-Darius Garland
-Tyler Herro
-Jarren Jackson jr
-Jalen Williams
-Tyrese Haliburton
-Bam Adebayo
-Scottie Barnes
-Franz Wagner

and then there remains Group crazy Zion Williamson and Ja Morant, who have just in theory superior talent

In case on of the Group 1 players becomes available, let's try, but please let's not go after aging headcases a la Durant or Butler

If you can't get a player from group 1 (which obviously the Bulls can't because they lack the assets) then you punt the can down the road and gamble on the potential of a draft pick. Even if that pick doesn't work it still has more of a chance to land the Bulls a real star through the draft and is a better option than locking themselves into barely mediocrity for years by signing Coby.

[BullChit]

He's basically LaVine and LaVine didn't get 30M.

Possible correction: If the freethrow rate sustains
He's Zach Lavine who can get to the free throw line..

So he's only scoring at LaVine levels because of FTs? Doesn't that say more about LaVine's ability to score than Coby's?

I was being cheeky... But there was an element of truth in there in regards to Lavine never receivinh calls to go to the free throw line...

I could make the same sarcastic comment about DRose really.