sco wrote:Hold That wrote:NesimLE wrote:You can make a correct read that requires a tough throw, a tight window, or even 'throwing a guy open' (!) and I think that's what we wanted to see evidence of. It's entirely possible that it's just not his style/game, but it'd be nice to have a QB that puts the defense on the back foot with his timing, leading receivers, etc...and we've literally never had that in Chicago. And it's not likely that a QB can develop that when his coach doesn't want him to make mistakes on one hand, and the OC doesn't drill timing/drop depth on the other hand. The best our coaches have been able to do in my memory, is occasionally scheme guys open, before the rest of the league figures them out, and performance declines 'til they get fired and the QB(s) are gone.
There were just some bad overthrows, and it never felt like it improved throughout the season. Early we hoped it was just familiarity, but as the season progressed and that aspect never came, it coincided with his no INT streak, which led to a bit of the narrative that he was being overly cautious, perhaps unfairly so. Really hoping that the things we're hearing/seeing with Ben's attention to detail and accountability that things will start to come together. We've always needed a coach that can help the QB know what the "open" read will look like, and to then trust that read, and the pocket around him. I'm nowhere near informed enough to know how coachable some of that is (as again, we Bears fans only see other teams do it to us lol) but that's the dream innit?
Caleb has 1 issue that we all can agree on.
Deep ball accuracy.
He made tight window throws all season. Minnesota he had two phenomenal tight window throws that both should have been INTs, the Detroit game, most of his second half performances consisted of tight window throws. This is often the time when they started to open the playbook up and take risk.
People complain about how the offensive line looked and then expect Caleb to have enough time to allow deep field plays to develop.
You wonder why Caleb had a ton of screen and 5 yard passes? The offensive line could rarely hold up for anything more than that to develop. The coaches were fully aware of that and play called as if they knew this as well.
2 issues we can all agree on...holds the ball too long.
The way this all unfolded, where the Bears ended up with this top pick in a Caleb draft at the same instant that they were finally jettisoning Justin Fields, and they weren’t completely turned off by the idea of drafting another such vintage quarterback, quite remarkable. And also, quite cruel by God.
In all seriousness, It’s fairly conceivable that Caleb has the ability to turn all this around. Yet as a Bears fan, the drafting of Loveland and Burden 1,2 actually is less confidence boosting than if they didn’t. If they didn’t draft Loveland and Burden, that could mean they didn’t feel the need to overcompensate to make it ridiculously easier for Caleb to succeed rather than take a good opportunity fill another big need or two. I’ve heard the Bears are widely regarded to have to top receiving corps in the NFL now. We entered into embarrassment of riches territory for a dubious reason perhaps.