2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[Chi town]

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Cowley with his update…

Says AK puts out lots of misdirection.

Convinced Demin is the guy at 12 but he will be picked inside top 10.

[Rose2Boozer]

Potential second round prospect, Neoklis Avdalas

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Demon to Utah at #5 I think is a real possibility.

[Rose2Boozer]

Demon to Utah at #5 I think is a real possibility.

Those guys are smoking crack if they draft Egor Demin with the 5th pick. It's simple for the Jazz, they should draft whoever remains out of Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe, and Ace Bailey.

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Demon to Utah at #5 I think is a real possibility.

Those guys are smoking crack if they draft Egor Demin with the 5th pick. It's simple for the Jazz, they should draft whoever remains out of Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe, and Ace Bailey.

With the BYU/Utah connection from Ryan Smith, it should not be ruled out.

On Tre, his lack of "downhill" play and rim finishing is worrisome. Insane shot maker though.

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[Jvaughn]

Have really enjoyed this guy's videos. He has Ace Bailey dropping to 8 in his mock draft. I find that hard to believe but it does feel like his stock has suffered. If he does fall that far, I would love to see us trade up to get him even if it involves Coby and 12 to get it done. He could bust, but his potential is too intriguing to pass up.

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[HomoSapien]

Have really enjoyed this guy's videos. He has Ace Bailey dropping to 8 in his mock draft. I find that hard to believe but it does feel like his stock has suffered. If he does fall that far, I would love to see us trade up to get him even if it involves Coby and 12 to get it done. He could bust, but his potential is too intriguing to pass up.

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Whoops, thanks for the assist. Amazing you knew exactly which video I meant too.

[HomoSapien]

Cedric Coward, tier one? How?

He's a college senior.
All of his advanced metrics say that he doesn't play defense. He's all offense.

Coward is not a 2 way player. Defensive effort usually does not improve in the NBA under any coach.

Tier one of people I think will realistically be available at 12, not tier one in the entire draft class.

He absolutely does play defense. You're wrong about that. He's disruptive with his elite wingspan. I also really love his foot work, I think he's got some of the best footwork in the draft.

[HomoSapien]

i actually like powell as a late first developmental dice-roll. would be exciting to have a ++ athleticism guy in the fold if you can pick up a pick in the 20s somehow

don't really love a trade down from 12 though, unless you're only moving back a few spots or are somehow picking up a meaningful future asset in the process. think there's a pretty significant difference between the guys in the mix at 12 and the players likely to be available in the late teens

Here's one trade, I'd be tempted to do:

Bulls trade: 12, 45

BKN trades: 19, 26, 36

Not sure if they would do that, but this would open up an opportunity for us to basically walk away with three first-round talents in a deep draft.

This draft is deep, but it’s not that deep. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still possibly some star potential available at 19. Will Riley maybe? Someone like Coward doesn’t go as high as the hype?

But when I look at this draft it starts to fall a pretty hard tier somewhere between 12 and 19. That line might be different for everyone, but it’s there. For me it’s around 13-14 and I start having to squint a little.

I would really like to add a later first, perhaps to add an extra big for example. I’d also be interested in a run at Saraf later in the first, especially if we draft someone like CMB at 12. But I would not trade back to do it. It would have to be other assets or just hold tight.

I'll disagree with you on this. I think we'll look back on this draft and question how so many good players went late in the first. If you go off NBAdraft's mock draft, you'd be in a position to draft: Coward at 19, Raynaud, CMB, or Bryant at 26, and Danny Wolf or Hansen Yang at 36. That would be a pretty fantastic hall in my opinion.

If you go off of ESPN's latest mock draft, you could potentially walk away with Sorber at 19 and Flemming or Coward at 26.

Both those scenarios seem pretty intriguing to me.

[Jvaughn]

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Whoops, thanks for the assist. Amazing you knew exactly which video I meant too.

As soon as you said Ace at 8, I knew what you were talking about.

[Almost Retired]

Mocks can be wildly wrong, but they aren't that wrong. You don't waste a FRP on a guy mocked 10-20 spots below. Not with a 65% FT and 3.4 RPG. I'd hope the only reason Drake's picked is because the Bulls picked up an extra, late pick. I guess I can't be surprised with AKME's big risky jumps on Pat and Dalen, but seeing as they were 0/2, maybe they should reconsider being more way more clever than consensus mocks. Trade downs for value do exist. With both players, we've been stuck overpaying even on their rookie deals. Difference of a few million, but at #12 you're paying a guy $5M. You don't want to pay split MLE money for a 4Y project who can't outplay a 2nd round Phillips or vet min THT. Unfortunately that's exactly what's happened with Terry and Pat.

Speaking of late picks, any thoughts on Koby Brea? Assuming he's below-average at handles and defense, looks slow... But his 3P/FT shooting seems elite (44/90), and at 6'7 with 7'3 wingspan, I'm having a hard time imagining him not having a shot as a good bench project at #45.

He's the guy I'd take at #45. Then have him play for Windy City for a full season. Work on developing his weaknesses. But we have enough athletic development players with below average shooting skills. We could use a deadly 3 point shooter with his measurements. For better or worse the league almost requires you to have some good 3 point shooters.

[Almost Retired]

Here's one trade, I'd be tempted to do:

Bulls trade: 12, 45

BKN trades: 19, 26, 36

Not sure if they would do that, but this would open up an opportunity for us to basically walk away with three first-round talents in a deep draft.

This draft is deep, but it’s not that deep. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still possibly some star potential available at 19. Will Riley maybe? Someone like Coward doesn’t go as high as the hype?

But when I look at this draft it starts to fall a pretty hard tier somewhere between 12 and 19. That line might be different for everyone, but it’s there. For me it’s around 13-14 and I start having to squint a little.

I would really like to add a later first, perhaps to add an extra big for example. I’d also be interested in a run at Saraf later in the first, especially if we draft someone like CMB at 12. But I would not trade back to do it. It would have to be other assets or just hold tight.

I'll disagree with you on this. I think we'll look back on this draft and question how so many good players went late in the first. If you go off NBAdraft's mock draft, you'd be in a position to draft: Coward at 19, Raynaud, CMB, or Bryant at 26, and Danny Wolf or Hansen Yang at 36. That would be a pretty fantastic hall in my opinion.

If you go off of ESPN's latest mock draft, you could potentially walk away with Sorber at 19 and Flemming or Coward at 26.

Both those scenarios seem pretty intriguing to me.

I like that outcome. Or Flemming and Joan Beringer. Beringer would need a few years to develop, but he has the tools to be the kind of rim runner/rim protector we need. He hasn't played Bball for that long but he's already come a long way. And he's one of the youngest players in the draft. A Coby, Giddey, Matas, Flemming, Beringer starting lineup would pose a lot of problems with length and switchability.

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Rocco Zikarsky looks better than all of them to me.

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This draft is deep, but it’s not that deep. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still possibly some star potential available at 19. Will Riley maybe? Someone like Coward doesn’t go as high as the hype?

But when I look at this draft it starts to fall a pretty hard tier somewhere between 12 and 19. That line might be different for everyone, but it’s there. For me it’s around 13-14 and I start having to squint a little.

I would really like to add a later first, perhaps to add an extra big for example. I’d also be interested in a run at Saraf later in the first, especially if we draft someone like CMB at 12. But I would not trade back to do it. It would have to be other assets or just hold tight.

I'll disagree with you on this. I think we'll look back on this draft and question how so many good players went late in the first. If you go off NBAdraft's mock draft, you'd be in a position to draft: Coward at 19, Raynaud, CMB, or Bryant at 26, and Danny Wolf or Hansen Yang at 36. That would be a pretty fantastic hall in my opinion.

If you go off of ESPN's latest mock draft, you could potentially walk away with Sorber at 19 and Flemming or Coward at 26.

Both those scenarios seem pretty intriguing to me.

I like that outcome. Or Flemming and Joan Beringer. Beringer would need a few years to develop, but he has the tools to be the kind of rim runner/rim protector we need. He hasn't played Bball for that long but he's already come a long way. And he's one of the youngest players in the draft. A Coby, Giddey, Matas, Flemming, Beringer starting lineup would pose a lot of problems with length and switchability.

Yeah that could work. Beringer is barely outside of my top 12, and Fleming is in the mix. I agree that Fleming, Matas and Beringer are among the few frontcourt trios that could convince me to let Giddey defend opposing guards full time. If there is a really tough matchup Matas or Fleming may be able to guard the 2 spot.

[CobysHairpick]

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Sounds like Derik Queen will likely be available at 12 but unfortunately I think AK and Billy pass on him due to fit. The Bulls will play with one of the fastest paces in the league again so his game isn't really the best fit considering he's best as a half court offense hub. That said, Vuc had his best season as a Bull playing at this pace so perhaps Queen can be the heir apparent if AK and Billy think he can develop a 3pt shot.

Looks like BPA at 12 will be between Demin, Queen, Bryant, and CMB. I wonder if their board is lined up as such. I'm still very high on Raynaud who appears to be a first round lock now.

[Guru]

https://youtu.be/e6PU5VPYUI8?si=sslpOn7ior1AQmfe

Cowley with his update…

Says AK puts out lots of misdirection.

Convinced Demin is the guy at 12 but he will be picked inside top 10.

I hate Bulls media outside of KC with a passion. And that beard thing doesn't help.

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This would be a worst case scenario for the Bulls board, most of the guys people strongly like are off the board at 12.

Gone by 12:
Maluach
Demin
Kasaparas
Noa Essengue
Fears
Tre

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This would be a worst case scenario for the Bulls board, most of the guys people strongly like are off the board at 12.

Gone by 12:
Maluach
Demin
Kasaparas
Noa Essengue
Fears
Tre

I think its likely.

If we are picking between Queen-CMB-Carter-Fleming-Maxime I am fine with that and its' my expectation.