Vucevic Trade Watch 2025

[MrSparkle]

2 other things… Billy plays small at SF… and frankly, the league does too. By small, I don’t mean short guys, but guard skills (handles and 3P) are prioritized over tweener skills (slash and finish).

Doesn’t feel like a stretch predicting low-minute roulette if we have Kuminga, Patrick and Matas vying primarily for PF minutes. I don’t think Billy would play them in SF tandems all too often.

Matas and Kuminga each spent over 75% of their time at PF. I really just don’t see them sharing the floor successfully.

From AKME perspective? There’s been a lack of rhyme and reason in regards to the on-floor product. If they see Kuminga as an opportunistic asset to grab, they’ll do it, player minutes be damned.

I don’t see a FA road for Chicago, but filling the books with low-minute/overpaid salaries has not netted anything positive yet…

[burlydee]

2 other things… Billy plays small at SF… and frankly, the league does too. By small, I don’t mean short guys, but guard skills (handles and 3P) are prioritized over tweener skills (slash and finish).

Doesn’t feel like a stretch predicting low-minute roulette if we have Kuminga, Patrick and Matas vying primarily for PF minutes. I don’t think Billy would play them in SF tandems all too often.

Matas and Kuminga each spent over 75% of their time at PF. I really just don’t see them sharing the floor successfully.

From AKME perspective? There’s been a lack of rhyme and reason in regards to the on-floor product. If they see Kuminga as an opportunistic asset to grab, they’ll do it, player minutes be damned.

I don’t see a FA road for Chicago, but filling the books with low-minute/overpaid salaries has not netted anything positive yet…

When your coach has consistently lead you to 40 wins almost every season, gotta keep that formula in place.

Part of the appeal of Matas/Giddey is there versatility. Giddey and Coby are already pretty ball dominant. Having another driver, slasher to play with makes a lot of sense if the cost is Vuc.

The Bulls simply are not filled with low minute, high salary guys.

[ChettheJet]

Memphis, they must be ready to do something else

First let's say they're not satisfied with Edey, who knows why
They have their eye on somebody in the FA pool next summer or the 2025 or 26 draft

Let's say they listen to the Bulls who offer to move down from #12 to #16 this year if there's a swap of Vucevic for Edey
They get a durable center who they let walk next summer when they have some kind of a long term plan

The Bulls get a young center that they will have under control for a few years who can play behind Collins and Smith next year to see how he develops. Unless they're locked in on one guy at #12, he or somebody just as good will be there at #16

[Hangtime84]

Memphis, they must be ready to do something else

First let's say they're not satisfied with Edey, who knows why
They have their eye on somebody in the FA pool next summer or the 2025 or 26 draft

Let's say they listen to the Bulls who offer to move down from #12 to #16 this year if there's a swap of Vucevic for Edey
They get a durable center who they let walk next summer when they have some kind of a long term plan

The Bulls get a young center that they will have under control for a few years who can play behind Collins and Smith next year to see how he develops. Unless they're locked in on one guy at #12, he or somebody just as good will be there at #16

I think they are waiting on Giannis Sweepstakes.

[Donkedave]

Memphis, they must be ready to do something else

First let's say they're not satisfied with Edey, who knows why
They have their eye on somebody in the FA pool next summer or the 2025 or 26 draft

Let's say they listen to the Bulls who offer to move down from #12 to #16 this year if there's a swap of Vucevic for Edey
They get a durable center who they let walk next summer when they have some kind of a long term plan

The Bulls get a young center that they will have under control for a few years who can play behind Collins and Smith next year to see how he develops. Unless they're locked in on one guy at #12, he or somebody just as good will be there at #16

I think they are waiting on Giannis Sweepstakes.

They also need to sign Jackson next summer.

[NecessaryEvil]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

[Hangtime84]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

Figure out who better fit between kuminga and Williams I’m here for it

[NecessaryEvil]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

Figure out who better fit between kuminga and Williams I’m here for it

I’m sure JK takes that anndddd I forgot about Collins and Huerter !!!!

[DropStep]

With Kuminga, it's all about the price. I don't think it's a great fit, personally.

While we are talking about bigs, two other teams that seem to be motivated sellers for different reasons are BOS and MEM.

Each would look good on a Bulls roster at different price points and different levels of commitment, and would mean different things on our roster: JJJ from Mem, which would take a lot to get. And Porzingis, which would take less to get if it came with salary relief for BOS, who can't afford to pay him. We would have rim protection for the first time in recent history, if and when he is on the floor. I have no clue what his extension would cost, but if his annual salary starts with a 2, it's worth considering due to upside. JJJ is great, but I'm not sure he rebounds enough for us. Vuc would go in either of those trades, so I'm mentioning them here.

(Edit - I didn't see the separate JJJ thread.)

[WesPeace]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

This is yuck, Phillips, Terry, Newell as backups.. thats rebuild team,which we arent doing lol

[meekrab]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

Phillips is much closer to a 3/4 than a guard, and this lineup would give up about 125 points a game.

[boozapalooza]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

This is yuck, Phillips, Terry, Newell as backups.. thats rebuild team,which we arent doing lol

He forgot Zo, Huerter, and Collins. Not a rebuild team, not a contender, but the team below has lots of upside and is a good young core you can build upon heading into 2026 offseason.

G Giddey / Lonzo
G White / Ayo
F Buzelis / Huerter
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Collins / Newell

[sco]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

This is yuck, Phillips, Terry, Newell as backups.. thats rebuild team,which we arent doing lol

He forgot Zo, Huerter, and Collins. Not a rebuild team, not a contender, but the team below has lots of upside and is a good young core you can build upon heading into 2026 offseason.

G Giddey / Lonzo
G White / Ayo
F Buzelis / Huerter
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Collins / Newell

What was the actual deal for Kuminga contemplated. I want to be rid of Vuc, but Kuminga may be one of the few guys we could add that would make us worse (not to mention his cost being higher). Adding another guy who needs touches, who can't shoot 3's and doesn't defend, seems like the wrong move on a team keeping Coby and trying to develop Matas.

[NecessaryEvil]

We HAVE to get the Kuminga deal done.

G Giddey / Ayo
G White / Phillips
F Buzelis / Terry
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Asa Newell

I like that team very much, especially if u can move Zo Ball for more assets.

This is yuck, Phillips, Terry, Newell as backups.. thats rebuild team,which we arent doing lol

He forgot Zo, Huerter, and Collins. Not a rebuild team, not a contender, but the team below has lots of upside and is a good young core you can build upon heading into 2026 offseason.

G Giddey / Lonzo
G White / Ayo
F Buzelis / Huerter
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Collins / Newell

Thx

[greenwing]

Can someone please explain the Kuminga interest to me? I know he's young and athletic but he's an undersized power forward who rebounds poorly for his position, does not shoot the three well and does not shoot free throws well. He's an upgrade over Patrick Williams, for sure. But despite him getting a ring as a rookie is he really the type of player that fits the bill as a starting power forward on a contender?

[Chi town]

Can someone please explain the Kuminga interest to me? I know he's young and athletic but he's an undersized power forward who rebounds poorly for his position, does not shoot the three well and does not shoot free throws well. He's an upgrade over Patrick Williams, for sure. But despite him getting a ring as a rookie is he really the type of player that fits the bill as a starting power forward on a contender?

It’s incredibly stupid.

Only way I take Kuminga is if it’s for Pat.

[Indomitable]

Can someone please explain the Kuminga interest to me? I know he's young and athletic but he's an undersized power forward who rebounds poorly for his position, does not shoot the three well and does not shoot free throws well. He's an upgrade over Patrick Williams, for sure. But despite him getting a ring as a rookie is he really the type of player that fits the bill as a starting power forward on a contender?

It’s incredibly stupid.

Only way I take Kuminga is if it’s for Pat.

I would not do it then.

I admit to wanting Whitmore or CEdric Coward though.

[Dan Z]

This is yuck, Phillips, Terry, Newell as backups.. thats rebuild team,which we arent doing lol

He forgot Zo, Huerter, and Collins. Not a rebuild team, not a contender, but the team below has lots of upside and is a good young core you can build upon heading into 2026 offseason.

G Giddey / Lonzo
G White / Ayo
F Buzelis / Huerter
F Kuminga / Williams
C Jalen Smith / Collins / Newell

What was the actual deal for Kuminga contemplated. I want to be rid of Vuc, but Kuminga may be one of the few guys we could add that would make us worse (not to mention his cost being higher). Adding another guy who needs touches, who can't shoot 3's and doesn't defend, seems like the wrong move on a team keeping Coby and trying to develop Matas.

Kuminga is young and it might work out, but my concern is what if it doesn't? Then the Bulls have two duds on long term contracts that are difficult to trade (PW and Kuminga).

I might offer them PW straight up instead of Vuc.

[Chi town]

Can someone please explain the Kuminga interest to me? I know he's young and athletic but he's an undersized power forward who rebounds poorly for his position, does not shoot the three well and does not shoot free throws well. He's an upgrade over Patrick Williams, for sure. But despite him getting a ring as a rookie is he really the type of player that fits the bill as a starting power forward on a contender?

It’s incredibly stupid.

Only way I take Kuminga is if it’s for Pat.

I would not do it then.

I admit to wanting Whitmore or CEdric Coward though.

Both are my targets as well.

Not convinced Whitmore has it between the ears though.

[waffle]

yeah, I've always disliked Kuminga, seems like a very c+ guy to me who is about to get overpaid.

We are oddly deep, if anything we have too many DECENT bodies and not enough GOOD bodies. Some of our depth are on good contracts, or at least trade able contracts

To me the optimal outcome this offseason is 1) get another decent pick somehow. 2) facilitate as the 3rd team which nets us a couple more decent future picks, at least 1 1st. There are teams in the league with a vulgar # of 1sts...I'd like a couple ideally

I just don't see us being big players in the FA market...just don't