Maggette Trade - Any interest in this Trade Proposal???

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If Duhon is still on the team, he will get his minutes.

I mean, it would take something unfathomable like a four-game stretch without a made field goal (ignoring goaltending calls) to cost him his starting job.

Sadly, the reason Duhon gets his minutes is because Kirk either sucks half the time, or is on the bench in foul trouble.

[girlygirl]

At which point Pax prepares to trade Hinrich in the summer when his BYC status is cleared and his value is higher. He drafts a real PG in the first round and goes with a backcourt line up of:

PG - Gordon, free agent veteran, 1st round PG
SG - Maggette, Gordon, Ross

Exactly who is this "real" PG you hope to draft? Derrick Rose will be off the board before the Bulls pick. Mayo (who is NOT a PG anyway) will be off the board, so will Gordon (who also is a SG, NOT a PG)

The PGs who are expected to be first round picks who might still be on the board when the Bulls pick are all midgets -- D.J. Augustin, Ty Lawson and Darren Collison -- all LISTED as 6'1" or shorter. Collison is the biggest of the three, but he's a combo guard, not a true PG. Augustin and lawson are both listed as 5'11".

Hinrich is not only bigger than these guys, he's a better all-around player as well. Unless the Bulls somehow get a high lottery pick, I don't see a PG in the draft that makes them better...

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You make good points on PGs, girlygirl. I didn't realize Augustine was so small. However, there will be PGs rising to the top before the end of the college season. It happens all the time. Be patient.

Not that I don't like Hinrich. I just don't think he's right for this team. Hinrich is a very good player, but as a PG, he's not quick enough, doesn't make sharp enough passes, and fouls way too much. Plus, he shooting is streakier than ever. I believe it's time to trade him.

As for who to draft...I'll have to do a little more homework before I can answer that.

However, I do believe that Gordon could become as effective a PG as Hinrich. He has his own flaws, we all know. But I could live with him bringing the ball upcourt and starting the offense. Hinrich's on the bench half the time anyway. How much are we really sacrificing by getting rid of Hinrich?

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I am sure it has been pointed out in this thread...

But mags is a well known no-d kinda dude.

With Skiles gone MAYBE that isn't such a big deal? Then again.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

Maggette doesn't excite me. I see it as a lateral move.

Lateral in the sense that we're not winning a championship now, and neither is a lineup of Hinrich/Maggette/Deng/Smith/Wallace, imo.

I think we should be thinking bigger than Maggette.

[NLK]

Cliff Levingston would make that trade yesterday.

Agreed Cliff! Now if we can only move Big Ben for someone + 1st round draft pick.

[fudgie]

I would do the OP's proposed trade in a second. I actually think we'd have a pretty good chance of resigning Maggette. We could give him the money that Noc and Du are making now. There aren't a lot of teams that are able to offer that much to Maggette. Even on the off chance he does walk then at least we get some salary flexibility and IMO we don't lose too much in the trade.

I cannot understate how desperately this team needs a third guard who doesn't suck. Opening up minutes in the frontcourt by trading Noc is just an added bonus. Pax should be burning up the phone lines right now trying to get the Clippers to bite on this.

[Sonny_D1]

Bump.

Ok, so I finally convinced myself that barring any type of blockbuster deal, Maggette is the player this team needs to get. I think we can all agree that when our outside shots aren't falling, our offense becomes stagnant and we become too predictable. Enter Maggette.

I went through the thread and didn't see this important stat mentioned anywhere. Maggette is currently 8th, let me repeat that, 8th in the ENTIRE league (regardeless of position), with 8.6 FTA's per game. Who are the seven players ahead of him you ask? Howard, Wade, RJeff, James, Martin, Arenas and Iverson.

At 8.6 FTA's per game, that puts him at MORE than twice as many FTA's as our leader, BG (3.9 FTA's). That difference is staggering to say the least.

Of course I'm certain his trips to the line would decrease in our offense, but I'm hoping his added dimension helps institute the changes we've all been advocating around here, more motion.

For the price I believe it would take to acquire him, I firmly think he'd give us the most "bang for the buck." We'd open up the froncourt, add a missing dimension, and hopefully help reshape the dynamic of our offense.

Injury is a concern, but he's still 28, and when he's on the court there's no denying he brings a whole new dimension to this team. Not to mention that as his hometown team, we'd probably be able to sign him to a contract similar to what we gave Noc.

Maybe we wait til the summer for him to opt out, wait to see how the season plays out, who we end up drafting, and what we do with the Deng/BG extensions, at which point we might be able to work some sort of S&T. Either way, I would have to think that Maggette would somehow make his way towards the top of our priority list.

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Totally agree, Sonny_D. I've been on the get Maggette bandwagon for a few weeks now, for exactly the same reasons. I believe I've heard that Maggette's FTA put him in the top three last season (although I don't have a source on this vague memory).

In any case, he would fill an urgent need for the Bulls. I feel that, unless Pax makes some kind of big deal (like the fictional TMac scenarios), then Pax will wait till the summer to deal. I've been predicting a Hinrich for Maggette deal because the Clips truly need a PG (even with Livingston on the mend).

If we did that trade, I'd like to see us jettison Duhon and pick up a wily veteran PG somewhere to backup Gordon. Especially if Pax can draft UCLA's Collison as our future PG.

[ATRAIN53]

Unless the Bulls somehow get a high lottery pick, I don't see a PG in the draft that makes them better...

agree 100% which is why im not looking into the 2008 Draft as immediate help for the Bulls. I want them to trade for a taller guard now or sign Baron Davis or Arenas this summer.

must find a finisher out there with the ability to get to the FT line.

Maggette fits that bill 100% and if Livingston is coming back he should be availiable. I'm even interested in Mobley, he gets to the FT line too.

how sad is your teams guard situation when you relalize you covet the 10-22 Clippers guards?

why not Gordon and Tyrus for Maggette?