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Question about Bulls Front Office POV 

Post#1 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:46 pm

Hi good people,

Its almost getting to that time when our good ole friend Sensi may need to retire and bring back one of my favorite posters , Foul Weather Fan.

But there still seems to be hope. Not of making the playoffs. But of a favorable trade happening. Or the young guys playing a little bit more.

Anyways, my question to you guys is what is more risky from a Management/GM point of view:

a) Firing Skiles who still has a lot of salary that has to be paid to him.
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b) Making a trade that puts us over the luxury tax (obviously I am talking superstar here).

I ask this question because there seems to be a disconnect in thinking as far as managment is concerned.

They first "reportedly" turn down trade proposals for fear of incurring luxury tax, but then this same conservative management then goes ahead and fires Skiles...who for a long time was pereceived as part of the think tank. And this firing took place over jut a 30 game sample. And as far as I can see, Boylans coaching is not that much different from Scott's.

I really dont understand this.

For me this extraploates to:

a) JR is taking way more executive decisions than Paxson is.
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b) Skiles was fired for far more serious reasons than just a poor performance over 30 games.

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Post#2 » by Wingy » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:56 pm

a) & a).

Jerry's looking for the playoff dough from this season. It looked clear to someone in management that we weren't going to get there under Skiles. I bet that was JR.
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Post#3 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:58 pm

Wingy wrote:a) & a).

Jerry's looking for the playoff dough from this season. It looked clear to someone in management that we weren't going to get there under Skiles. I bet that was JR.


But this begs the question:

What is Boylan doing so differently than Skiles is doing? I dont see it on the court.

Nor in the young guys minutes.
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Post#4 » by voice of reason » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:24 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



But this begs the question:

What is Boylan doing so differently than Skiles is doing? I dont see it on the court.

Nor in the young guys minutes.


Boylan's letting the vets run the roost here, that's what's different. As long as they're happy maybe we can squeak out a few wins for that 7-8th seed.
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Post#5 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:27 pm

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Boylan's letting the vets run the roost here,
that's what's different. As long as they're happy maybe we can squeak out a few wins for that 7-8th seed.


How is that different?

Scottie was doing the same thing. Thats why I was one of the people baying for his blood.
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Post#6 » by LALakers4ever » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:31 pm

Skiles was a scapegoat for the Bulls troubles. The real problem with your team is how imbalanced your roster is(no post game), and how management has blown it by getting Big Ben, and not trading for a superstar.

Skiles was a great coach for you guys, he just didn't have a well put together team.
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Post#7 » by Wingy » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:40 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
But this begs the question:

What is Boylan doing so differently than Skiles is doing? I dont see it on the court.

Nor in the young guys minutes.


Beats the heck outta me. What can they do now though? Fire the interim guy?

I'm going to just guess and say they'll let it go til the All Star break and see if it's turned around. If it hasn't, I'm betting (hoping too) that we'll see more youngsters after the break. I'd like to see them right now. But I don't think that's going to happen.

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