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Post#1 » by jump » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:14 pm

Looking at Hinrich's face on the bench during the Pacer game I noticed for the first time since he joined the team that he didn't look gaunt, exhausted and completely spent. His face looked relaxed, normal. This was before he had even scored 20 points, let alone 38.

Could his troubles be as simple as what we all know has been a problem for the team for years: having to guard big SGs is killing him?

Having Thabo on the court last night totally changed that. Coincidence?
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Post#2 » by PowerBull » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:27 pm

Hinrich always played better when he came back after small injuries in previous years.
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Post#3 » by MrSparkle » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:15 pm

I think Thabo has made life easier for Gordon and Hinrich, but it shouldn't serve as an excuse for why Kirk has played so horribly. It's not good to know that a guy you're paying $10+ million a year can't put up a decent offensive game consistently because of his back-court mates... okay, if it was Kevin Ollie and Gordon Giricek, I would see validity, but Gordon and Duhon, though undersized, are far from trash. I guarantee that Paul, Nash, Kidd, Williams, etc. would not struggle as hard as Kirk has.

That said, I DO think that this team's stubborn coaching the last few years is the root of the problems. Insisting on having a "real pg" run the show, way overblown. I think if they forced Gordon, Thabo into playing point guard, or rather "gave them a chance" (I don't think it would be forcing them against their will), they would be able to handle the position.

I honestly stand by that. Yes, it would mean more ball-movement and creative screen setting, playing more through the post players (even if it's Wallace)... and it would mean less dribbling and waiting to find an open player. With how abysmal our offense has looked the last few years (and at times it looked good, not great, but good), I simply am shocked with the fact that a better defensive combination (Gordon at pg, Thabo at sg) wasn't tried anyway.

Seeing Thabo and Griffin in the back-court was wonderful, even if it was Griffin. Imagine a Thabo/Kobe back-court. :o OH WAIT, that wouldn't work. Without a true pg, no one would be able to bring the ball past the half-court, and no one would know how to set up a play!!! FORGIVE ME FOR THE STUPID IDEA!!!

Phil Jackson: Ron, go to the bench. Mike wants a true pg running the show. (*Bulls trade Harper and 3-point specialist Kerr for a "pure point", because the offense just wasn't working)
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Post#4 » by SkillzDatKillz » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:37 pm

MrSparkle wrote:I think Thabo has made life easier for Gordon and Hinrich, but it shouldn't serve as an excuse for why Kirk has played so horribly. It's not good to know that a guy you're paying $10+ million a year can't put up a decent offensive game consistently because of his back-court mates... okay, if it was Kevin Ollie and Gordon Giricek, I would see validity, but Gordon and Duhon, though undersized, are far from trash. I guarantee that Paul, Nash, Kidd, Williams, etc. would not struggle as hard as Kirk has.


Paul, Nash, and Kidd are probably all going to be hall of famers, with Williams having a shot. Thats a totally different tier of players than from the one Kirks in.
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Post#5 » by GRADEN » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:54 pm

It's because he has made a consistent effort this year of controlling his drinking. He went through a rough patch (withdrawl) to begin the year and now he is rounding back.

Just a guess, but I suspect a damn close one.
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Post#6 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:59 pm

GRADEN wrote:It's because he has made a consistent effort this year of controlling his drinking. He went through a rough patch (withdrawl) to begin the year and now he is rounding back.

Just a guess, but I suspect a damn close one.

Dammit, why are our PGs such drunks!
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Post#7 » by Grand Champ » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:03 pm

Friend_Of_Haley wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Dammit, why are our PGs such drunks!


Because it is depressing to try to play point guard with Ben Wallace as your inside scorer at center.
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Post#8 » by zmz72388 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:20 pm

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Post#9 » by Art Vandelay » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:22 pm

GRADEN wrote:It's because he has made a consistent effort this year of controlling his drinking. He went through a rough patch (withdrawl) to begin the year and now he is rounding back.

Just a guess, but I suspect a damn close one.


Huh? Where is this coming from?
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Post#10 » by topper09 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:43 pm

jump wrote:Looking at Hinrich's face on the bench during the Pacer game I noticed for the first time since he joined the team that he didn't look gaunt, exhausted and completely spent. His face looked relaxed, normal. This was before he had even scored 20 points, let alone 38.

Could his troubles be as simple as what we all know has been a problem for the team for years: having to guard big SGs is killing him?

Having Thabo on the court last night totally changed that. Coincidence?


I did also.. It also helps when your a PG and you get the assignment of guarding the other point gaurd for a change.
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Post#11 » by GRADEN » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:50 pm

AV-

It's legit. Just have to take my word on it.
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Post#12 » by Cliff Levingston » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:16 pm

Cliff Levingston thinks that playing with a big SG like Sefolosha is only a small part of why Hinrich played well last night. It much more so had to do with:

1. Kirk being aggressive. He's always played much better when he's attacking his defender and looking for his shot.
2. Kirk's shot was simply falling, which does wonders for his confidence.
3. Jamaal Tinsley and Travis Deiner were "defending" him.

We all have known for a long time that it would be more ideal if Hinrich could always defend the smaller/easier match up every night, but that goes for any defender in the league.
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Post#13 » by TB#1 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:26 pm

GRADEN wrote:It's because he has made a consistent effort this year of controlling his drinking. He went through a rough patch (withdrawl) to begin the year and now he is rounding back.

Just a guess, but I suspect a damn close one.


Holy scurilous rumor mongering, Batman!
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Post#14 » by Mr. Tibbs » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:05 pm

i thought this would have to do with him looking somewhat elf like. You know what was my favorite play of his? That behind the back to Noah for the layup. I swear i had a horrible flash in my head of his fastbreak to noah (or no one) that is easily one of the lowlights of the entire season. To see them connect on that really was relieving.
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Post#15 » by GRADEN » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:49 am

Oh come on! You act surprised. I'm sure Jill would not be in position to comment....

I'm ending it though bc I really like Kirk alot and don't want to edge this forward.
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