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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#21 » by Rerisen » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:43 pm

If Deng is going to shoot 36% on threes all year, probably help us more than Dunleavy.

He'd definitely help the defense get in gear.

Doubt Miami wants Duns though, maybe if we give them McBuckets and a pick. Still wouldn't match on salary.
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Post#22 » by panthermark » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:45 pm

Found it...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011 ... ting-guard

He was drafted as a SF per Gar.

Butler thinks that he could play SG because he will put in the work (which turned out to be true!). But those comments also tell me that he didn't think of himself as a SG, but as someone that could play it if he put in the work.
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Post#23 » by Tetlak » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:53 pm

I was planning on making an entire thread about Jimmy's splits at SG and SF because I'm sick of having to argue with everybody about arbitrary position labels.

Ill just post it here later unless somebody who has time wants to first
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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#24 » by panthermark » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:57 pm

Tetlak wrote:I was planning on making an entire thread about Jimmy's splits at SG and SF because I'm sick of having to argue with everybody about arbitrary position labels.

Ill just post it here later unless somebody who has time wants to first

I would not worry about it (unless you want to do it for fun). In my mind, at this point, it does not matter what we call him..because he plays both positions all the time and he defends both positions all the time as well. Up until this season (after he blew up), I used to say he was a SF playing SG...now....he is simply a beast...especially at SG when he bully-balls smaller players.
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Post#25 » by 2Chainz » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:03 pm

Jake, Westford: Hey Paul How has the move up to the three spot changed your game? In addition, how does it change how the team operates on defense and offense? Keep up the good work!

Paul Pierce: I don't really see any difference. The biggest difference is who you guard, who you match up with on the defensive end. Otherwise, whether I play two or three, I play the same game offensively.


I don't think there's any difference. It's all about who you guard, in basketball you have a primary ball handler, two wings, and two bigs.

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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#26 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:27 pm

2Chainz wrote:
Jake, Westford: Hey Paul How has the move up to the three spot changed your game? In addition, how does it change how the team operates on defense and offense? Keep up the good work!

Paul Pierce: I don't really see any difference. The biggest difference is who you guard, who you match up with on the defensive end. Otherwise, whether I play two or three, I play the same game offensively.


I don't think there's any difference. It's all about who you guard, in basketball you have a primary ball handler, two wings, and two bigs.

A swingman is a swingman


That is a huge difference. Butler looks much better on offense being guarded by 6'5" shooting guards as opposed to 6'8" small forwards.

This the main reason I would prefer Chandler over Afflalo. The match ups, not the roles.
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Post#27 » by 2Chainz » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:42 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
2Chainz wrote:
Jake, Westford: Hey Paul How has the move up to the three spot changed your game? In addition, how does it change how the team operates on defense and offense? Keep up the good work!

Paul Pierce: I don't really see any difference. The biggest difference is who you guard, who you match up with on the defensive end. Otherwise, whether I play two or three, I play the same game offensively.


I don't think there's any difference. It's all about who you guard, in basketball you have a primary ball handler, two wings, and two bigs.

A swingman is a swingman


That is a huge difference. Butler looks much better on offense being guarded by 6'5" shooting guards as opposed to 6'8" small forwards.

This the main reason I would prefer Chandler over Afflalo. The match ups, not the roles.


Having Chandler vs. Afflalo won't change that though. The better of the defenders will take on Butler, maybe Chandler will be at an advantage but unless you get Lebron, Durant, Harden, or Carmelo he's going to see the better wing defender whether that defender is 6'5 or 6'8.
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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#28 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:48 pm

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2Chainz wrote:
I don't think there's any difference. It's all about who you guard, in basketball you have a primary ball handler, two wings, and two bigs.

A swingman is a swingman


That is a huge difference. Butler looks much better on offense being guarded by 6'5" shooting guards as opposed to 6'8" small forwards.

This the main reason I would prefer Chandler over Afflalo. The match ups, not the roles.


Having Chandler vs. Afflalo won't change that though. The better of the defenders will take on Butler, maybe Chandler will be at an advantage but unless you get Lebron, Durant, Harden, or Carmelo he's going to see the better wing defender whether that defender is 6'5 or 6'8.


Yeah that is my reasoning. Putting a SG on Chandler is a big mismatch most nights. I think he is good enough to take advantage of it.

Beal, Korver, Derozan, JR Smith/Mike Miller on him...that would be heavily in the Bulls favor.
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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#29 » by panthermark » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:54 pm

2Chainz wrote:
Jake, Westford: Hey Paul How has the move up to the three spot changed your game? In addition, how does it change how the team operates on defense and offense? Keep up the good work!

Paul Pierce: I don't really see any difference. The biggest difference is who you guard, who you match up with on the defensive end. Otherwise, whether I play two or three, I play the same game offensively.


I don't think there's any difference. It's all about who you guard, in basketball you have a primary ball handler, two wings, and two bigs.

A swingman is a swingman

I don't buy that.
I mean, I do believe in who you guard often often determines your position. But "normally", there is a primary ball handler and a secondary ball handler. And "normally", that secondary ball handler is a the SG. Sometimes a SF is skilled enough to play the offensive role of a SG, but I can't say that a wing is a wing as if they are all interchangeable. Some guys can easily swing between positions, some can't....and it also depends on the make-up of your team.
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Re: SG vs SF 

Post#30 » by panthermark » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:58 pm

Chandler vs Afflalo (assuming they cost to get them was exactly the same) would be an excellent debate.

I would actually like to see a the thread updated (no need to create a new one IMO) with a poll.

I think Afflalo is the better scorer, but Chandler's size allows for the Bulls to keep Jimmy at SG and simply bully teams down the line.

The other questions is...which of the two is the better defender against their own position AND the other wing position?
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