PG: what in the serious ****?

[unknownnewbie]

Anybody know why the Nuggets are reportedly willing to trade anyone and everyone? What exactly is their plan going forward with the franchise? They aren't that bad of a team to suddenly do a fire sale, IMO

[Rerisen]

Wes is shooting close to 40% on catch and shoot threes the past two seasons while being an ok defender.

You resign Dunleavy with his early bird rights (meaning you could go up to the average salary of around six million for him) and use the MMLE on Wes and sign Jimmy to a deal with his bird rights.

I don't watch the Lakers that much, and he doesn't play that much, thus this is when I look at stats more. I think you like RPM, it rates him lower than Snell on defense.

Anyway, even assuming you like Dunleavy as a starter for 2 more years at age 35 and 36 (once again RealGM fails me in dumping the puke smiley), that doesn't help this year.

I want to go back to the AA is a 'dribbler' comment as well. He started his career as a role player and spot up guy, I think he can ramp down his ORL volume and un-assisted % pretty easily if necessary. And once his more difficult creating attempts come down, you will see his efficiency come back up on the wide open type looks Mike gets. 50% of Mike's shots are classified as 'Open' or 'Wide open' compared with AA's meager 22% on a bad team. There is your efficiency difference.

As far as a dribbler though, what we have currently is much worse, Aaron Brooks and parts trying to close, now that is a guy that ignores everyone else.

Here is who Thibs closed with the last 4 games Dunleavy was healthy:

NO: E'twaun Moore
Indy: Brooks
Nets: Moore
DEN: Brooks then Hinrich

Clearly we have a problem here. These are hardly championship finishers.

[unknownnewbie]

Here's the defensive rankings of the top contenders in the NBA.

1 Golden State Warriors
2 Portland Trail Blazers
3 Houston Rockets
5 Atlanta Hawks
6 San Antonio Spurs
8 Washington Wizards
9 Oklahoma City Thunder
11 Memphis Grizzlies

The only realistic teams our defense could be clearly better than by the playoffs is probably from the Wizards on down. But more likely one of the top 6 teams there is making the Finals.

So thinking about improving on both sides should be common wisdom. There is no one exact way you have to win. For every point of offensive or defensive efficiency you improve, you get better and increase your odds to win.

Yet many Bulls fans be all like: "Nein! We must win only on defense!"

I don't know if I'd call the Thunder a top contender. If the season ended today, they wouldn't even make the playoffs -- they are still 3 games out of the 8th seed. They have not played all that well even when both KD and Westbrook have both been healthy (although they clobbered Orlando today). I have a hard time seeing them getting out of the West.

[MrSparkle]

I'm not sure why they want to go the way of Philly.

Honestly, talk about AWFUL GM'ing since the firing of George Karl. What was the point of that? He seemed to love his job, and had his group stay competitive.

Faried had a monster FIBA campaign. Ty is still one of the league's better points. Chandler and Afflalo are very good 2-way players. Do they want to tank for their next Melo?

Galinari was a tough break... But you let him expire and move on. Teams can take a cue from the Bulls. Imagine if Chicago decided to dump Taj, Noah and Dunleavy for chump change after three meniscus tear. 3 years of playoff exits are better than tanking. Takes a lot of luck to get out the hole. Look how long Sacramento, Utah, N'Orleans, Minnesota have been out the playoff picture since "blowing it up". Remember Webber? Deron in Utah? CP3 as a Hornet?

Hawks might have been a 4-5 seed for a decade now, but sure beats being perpetually "awful." I'd like Denver to stand pat, let Galinari/McGee expire or be traded for cap relief, and just see them retool internally. It'd be nice if they bright Karl back.

[Rerisen]

Faried had a monster FIBA campaign. Ty is still one of the league's better points. Chandler and Afflalo are very good 2-way players. Do they want to tank for their next Melo?

They expect AA to opt out of his final year and to walk elsewhere. They already have lots of money committed and don't figure they can afford him. Plus he's getting up in age for a young rebuilding team.

So that is why they are kind of in a use it or lose it position with him as a trade chip.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Good luck having success into the postseason when two of your 7 best players are always going to be riding pine in the 4th.

Well don't two of your top seven players ALWAYS sit in the game of basketball?

You're not understanding the simple point that when 4 of your top 7 players are in the frontcourt, your top players are going to be sitting on the bench much more than other teams' top players when the game is on the line. Your top talent is not on the floor because you are overloaded at one position.

[bullsnewdynasty]

And what about those who knew Hinrich was done 2 seasons ago and weren't drinking the 20 ppg ROY McDermott kool aid?

well, that would be a strange group, 'cause hinrich was at least good defensively last year. and nobody that i know of thought mcdermott would be a ROY candidate

Bull. Most smart fans know Hinrich should not be playing meaningful minutes at this stage in his career and you can check the McDermott threads yourself for the ridiculous expectations thrust upon him, the evidence is right there.

Good luck having success into the postseason when two of your 7 best players are always going to be riding pine in the 4th.

not sure what you're even talking about here

Yeah, not surprised.

[dice]

And what about those who knew Hinrich was done 2 seasons ago and weren't drinking the 20 ppg ROY McDermott kool aid?

well, that would be a strange group, 'cause hinrich was at least good defensively last year. and nobody that i know of thought mcdermott would be a ROY candidate

Bull. Most smart fans know Hinrich should not be playing meaningful minutes at this stage in his career

well, that's not what i said

[dice]

Good luck having success into the postseason when two of your 7 best players are always going to be riding pine in the 4th.

Well don't two of your top seven players ALWAYS sit in the game of basketball?

You're not understanding the simple point that when 4 of your top 7 players are in the frontcourt, your top players are going to be sitting on the bench much more than other teams' top players when the game is on the line. Your top talent is not on the floor because you are overloaded at one position.

still doesn't make any sense. you're always gonna have 2 guys off the floor. and there are TWO frontcourt positions. it's not like we've got 3 guys at a single position