Barkley calls out Rose; also has no clue who starts at SF for the Bulls

[kyrv]

This is a good thing. The best player on the team should not be afraid to call guys out. This isn't the boy scouts. I'm a Lakers fan, and I'm used to Kobe Bryant talking about keeping guys "on edge" throughout his years. You can't be afraid to tell it how it is, and keeping people a bit uncomfortable can be a good thing. Derrick Rose is obviously not the Kobe Bryant personality (a compliment, he's not an **** ), so I think him doing it every once in a while is a very good thing.

Rose talked about the team as a whole.

Rose should absolutely not be singling out teammates to the media.

You don't take a pass on the playoffs and then point fingers.

[NZB2323]

Who is our starting Small Forward? Does anyone know who will start at small forward against the Spurs? Butler? Dunleavy? Snell?

[Chi]

Apparently no one else at the table knew who it was either...

I found that hilarious because he asked, and none of them could answer. Then Kenny tried to play it off like he wasn't even listening, when I know he had to have heard Charles big mouth right next to him

Well to be fair, MDJ was signed to backup Deng, McDermott is a lottery picked SF, Butler now plays SG and Snell hasn't really panned out at this time. Honestly, this year Chicago is missing a starting SF, Dunlevey was never signed to start at SF yet here Chicago is wanting to be a Championship team with no true starting SF on the roster if you don't count Butler, if you do count Butler you then have no starting caliber SG on the roster. There's a reason why people who don't follow Chicago don't know who's starting at SF, because NOBODY on this roster(other than our starting SG) should be starting at SF for the Bulls.

There's a huge hole at SF because the FO gambled on getting Melo for below market value, swung and missed and signed a good valued contract with Gasol, signed Mirotic and left a huge gap at SF and has yet to address it for this year. Next year and beyond it might be McDermott, but there's no way you can/should count on a rookie for a championship run. The FO should have known that signing Gasol ment having to move assets to fix the problem at SF which still hasn't happened. This team can't be this dependant on a 3 million dollar player with as many assets as they currently have if they want to have a real shot at a championship.

The Spurs had a hole at C last year. If you count Duncan, then they had a hole at PF... - They won the ring
The Heat had a hole at PG AND C... - They won rings

Michael Jordan had holes all over those championship rosters...

Unless Golden State wins this year, whoever gets it will have what you call a "hole" somewhere in their team.


You don't have to have an absolutely flawless roster from 1 to 15 to win a Championships.


And if Golden State doesn't win it they'll prove that NOT having holes in your roster, or that whichever roster has the least holes, is not the end all be all to winning rings either...

[kodo]

It was an interesting contrast to hear Reggie Miller talking about Roses comments.

Unlike Barkley he was behind Rose 100% and thought that was leadership because the Bulls deserved the criticism.

[bullsRlife]

It was an interesting contrast to hear Reggie Miller talking about Roses comments.

Unlike Barkley he was behind Rose 100% and thought that was leadership because the Bulls deserved the criticism.

Reggie's reaction was that of a rational, and common sense type individual.

Charles reaction was that of a guy that wanted to see his name in an article, and for exposure.

[AirP.]

I found that hilarious because he asked, and none of them could answer. Then Kenny tried to play it off like he wasn't even listening, when I know he had to have heard Charles big mouth right next to him

Well to be fair, MDJ was signed to backup Deng, McDermott is a lottery picked SF, Butler now plays SG and Snell hasn't really panned out at this time. Honestly, this year Chicago is missing a starting SF, Dunlevey was never signed to start at SF yet here Chicago is wanting to be a Championship team with no true starting SF on the roster if you don't count Butler, if you do count Butler you then have no starting caliber SG on the roster. There's a reason why people who don't follow Chicago don't know who's starting at SF, because NOBODY on this roster(other than our starting SG) should be starting at SF for the Bulls.

There's a huge hole at SF because the FO gambled on getting Melo for below market value, swung and missed and signed a good valued contract with Gasol, signed Mirotic and left a huge gap at SF and has yet to address it for this year. Next year and beyond it might be McDermott, but there's no way you can/should count on a rookie for a championship run. The FO should have known that signing Gasol ment having to move assets to fix the problem at SF which still hasn't happened. This team can't be this dependant on a 3 million dollar player with as many assets as they currently have if they want to have a real shot at a championship.

The Spurs had a hole at C last year. If you count Duncan, then they had a hole at PF... - They won the ring
The Heat had a hole at PG AND C... - They won rings

Michael Jordan had holes all over those championship rosters...

Unless Golden State wins this year, whoever gets it will have what you call a "hole" somewhere in their team.


You don't have to have an absolutely flawless roster from 1 to 15 to win a Championships.


And if Golden State doesn't win it they'll prove that NOT having holes in your roster, or that whichever roster has the least holes, is not the end all be all to winning rings either...

You can have a hole on the roster but I'm saying at this point Snell isn't even a "decent" nba rotation player. By the way 16 pts, 9 rebs on 52% in the playoffs isn't exactly a hole at PF. Snell is nowhere near that person who you said is possibly a hole. Snell could be cut and it's quite possible nobody signs him. That other "hole" only shot 61% in the playoffs and when in rebounded at a rate of just under 10 per36.

The Heat only had the best NBA player, another player who was able to carry a team to a championship by himself when he was healthy(wade) and a very good big man in Bosh, Chicago doesn't have 3 guys near that talented on offense. Of rotational players, Chicago only has 1 player who's 34 that's even been in a finals.

The way Chicago is constructed, a hole at SF is a much bigger problem then the other players at this point, maybe next year when McDermott and Mirotic are more experienced and Rose is a full year into being back they can handle it more, not now.

[Chi]

Well to be fair, MDJ was signed to backup Deng, McDermott is a lottery picked SF, Butler now plays SG and Snell hasn't really panned out at this time. Honestly, this year Chicago is missing a starting SF, Dunlevey was never signed to start at SF yet here Chicago is wanting to be a Championship team with no true starting SF on the roster if you don't count Butler, if you do count Butler you then have no starting caliber SG on the roster. There's a reason why people who don't follow Chicago don't know who's starting at SF, because NOBODY on this roster(other than our starting SG) should be starting at SF for the Bulls.

There's a huge hole at SF because the FO gambled on getting Melo for below market value, swung and missed and signed a good valued contract with Gasol, signed Mirotic and left a huge gap at SF and has yet to address it for this year. Next year and beyond it might be McDermott, but there's no way you can/should count on a rookie for a championship run. The FO should have known that signing Gasol ment having to move assets to fix the problem at SF which still hasn't happened. This team can't be this dependant on a 3 million dollar player with as many assets as they currently have if they want to have a real shot at a championship.

The Spurs had a hole at C last year. If you count Duncan, then they had a hole at PF... - They won the ring
The Heat had a hole at PG AND C... - They won rings

Michael Jordan had holes all over those championship rosters...

Unless Golden State wins this year, whoever gets it will have what you call a "hole" somewhere in their team.


You don't have to have an absolutely flawless roster from 1 to 15 to win a Championships.


And if Golden State doesn't win it they'll prove that NOT having holes in your roster, or that whichever roster has the least holes, is not the end all be all to winning rings either...

You can have a hole on the roster but I'm saying at this point Snell isn't even a "decent" nba rotation player. By the way 16 pts, 9 rebs on 52% in the playoffs isn't exactly a hole at PF. Snell is nowhere near that person who you said is possibly a hole. Snell could be cut and it's quite possible nobody signs him. That other "hole" only shot 61% in the playoffs and when in rebounded at a rate of just under 10 per36.

The Heat only had the best NBA player, another player who was able to carry a team to a championship by himself when he was healthy(wade) and a very good big man in Bosh, Chicago doesn't have 3 guys near that talented on offense. Of rotational players, Chicago only has 1 player who's 34 that's even been in a finals.

The way Chicago is constructed, a hole at SF is a much bigger problem then the other players at this point, maybe next year when McDermott and Mirotic are more experienced and Rose is a full year into being back they can handle it more, not now.

Who is talking about Snell? Snell is not our starting SF... No, the guy who avg. 12ppg and 4rpg on 57% shooting (44% from 3) against the Champion Miami Heat in 2012-2013 Playoffs is...

So if guys recent stats in the playoffs is what defines being a "hole" or not to you, then you have no worries my friend...

P.S. Pau>Bosh ... Noah is FAR BETTER than ANY other big they had, so is Taj, maybe even Niko... Lebron wins his matchup BUT we have arguably the best bron defender there is on earth and he's also a 20+ppg scorer now... Rose/Jimmy >>>Chalmer/Wade Any day... Don't want to derail and turn this into a big heat VS Bulls debate. Just want to quickly point out that they are in no way far better or far more talented or anything like that above us.

[RomeDaDome]

Granted they're 2-3 their last 5 games but in those games Rose has averaged 24.8ppg 6.4apg 3.2 rpg only 1.8 TOpg and has been 20/36 from 3! Long term he won't be able to keep up those 3 point numbers but with those stats and better team defense along with others getting healthy, the Bulls will be alright... Playing the Mavs tonight will be a good test after coming off of a pretty good win against the Spurs. If the Bulls win tonight, everything will start to calm down.

[AirP.]

The Spurs had a hole at C last year. If you count Duncan, then they had a hole at PF... - They won the ring
The Heat had a hole at PG AND C... - They won rings

Michael Jordan had holes all over those championship rosters...

Unless Golden State wins this year, whoever gets it will have what you call a "hole" somewhere in their team.

You don't have to have an absolutely flawless roster from 1 to 15 to win a Championships.

And if Golden State doesn't win it they'll prove that NOT having holes in your roster, or that whichever roster has the least holes, is not the end all be all to winning rings either...

You can have a hole on the roster but I'm saying at this point Snell isn't even a "decent" nba rotation player. By the way 16 pts, 9 rebs on 52% in the playoffs isn't exactly a hole at PF. Snell is nowhere near that person who you said is possibly a hole. Snell could be cut and it's quite possible nobody signs him. That other "hole" only shot 61% in the playoffs and when in rebounded at a rate of just under 10 per36.

The Heat only had the best NBA player, another player who was able to carry a team to a championship by himself when he was healthy(wade) and a very good big man in Bosh, Chicago doesn't have 3 guys near that talented on offense. Of rotational players, Chicago only has 1 player who's 34 that's even been in a finals.

The way Chicago is constructed, a hole at SF is a much bigger problem then the other players at this point, maybe next year when McDermott and Mirotic are more experienced and Rose is a full year into being back they can handle it more, not now.

Who is talking about Snell? Snell is not our starting SF... No, the guy who avg. 12ppg and 4rpg on 57% shooting (44% from 3) against the Champion Miami Heat in 2012-2013 Playoffs is...

Snell is starting for Chicago for the guy who was signed as a backup to Deng. Neither should be starting hence the reason why Barkley and the rest of them didn't know who was Chicago's starting SF. I just happen to think Snell shouldn't really be on the roster because he'll never be consistent enough to trust, he was highly inconsistent in college also.

So if guys recent stats in the playoffs is what defines being a "hole" or not to you, then you have no worries my friend...

I just had a problem with you calling a calling a hall of famer who was still being productive a hole.

P.S. Pau>Bosh ... Noah is FAR BETTER than ANY other big they had, so is Taj, maybe even Niko... Lebron wins his matchup BUT we have arguably the best bron defender there is on earth and he's also a 20+ppg scorer now... Rose/Jimmy >>>Chalmer/Wade Any day... Don't want to derail and turn this into a big heat VS Bulls debate. Just want to quickly point out that they are in no way far better or far more talented or anything like that above us.

Ok? We also had the best bron defender on the earth years before also in Deng who put up good scoring seasons. What is the deal with the Heat in this conversation about Barkley and the rest not knowing Chicago's SF. I would think anyone who doesn't follow Chicago closely wouldn't know who the starter is.

[Chi]

Who is talking about Snell? Snell is not our starting SF... No, the guy who avg. 12ppg and 4rpg on 57% shooting (44% from 3) against the Champion Miami Heat in 2012-2013 Playoffs is...

Snell is starting for Chicago for the guy who was signed as a backup to Deng. Neither should be starting hence the reason why Barkley and the rest of them didn't know who was Chicago's starting SF. I just happen to think Snell shouldn't really be on the roster because he'll never be consistent enough to trust, he was highly inconsistent in college also.

Snell isn't our starting SF. Me and Barkley as well were talking about Dunleavy...
If Snell were, then I'd have to agree with you because he would indeed be a hole...

But I believe if everyone else on the team gets it together and we become as cohesive as possible and reach our peak this year, that we can get by with Dunleavy. And by "get by" I mean win the Championship. We could definitely use an upgrade at the SF position, I agree there, but I don't think Mike D is so bad that he would be the reason for our downfall.

So if guys recent stats in the playoffs is what defines being a "hole" or not to you, then you have no worries my friend...

I just had a problem with you calling a calling a hall of famer who was still being productive a hole.

You misunderstood me, I wasn't calling Duncan a hole. I was saying that they had a hole at Center, and if you count Duncan as their Center, then they had a hole at PF. My mistake for not being more clear there.

[AirP.]

You misunderstood me, I wasn't calling Duncan a hole. I was saying that they had a hole at Center, and if you count Duncan as their Center, then they had a hole at PF. My mistake for not being more clear there.

Ah, not a problem! I like MDJ and he's fine at SF for this team, but that's the weakest spot on the starting 5 plus the backup of SF is also the weakest of all the backups, hence my reasoning for a hole in the lineup because if he gets in foul trouble, turns an ankle, gets cut and bleeds, Chicago is in deep. Also, it's more glaring of a hole on the roster when you have assets in picks and player that aren't starting.

[Jvaughn]

It was an interesting contrast to hear Reggie Miller talking about Roses comments.

Unlike Barkley he was behind Rose 100% and thought that was leadership because the Bulls deserved the criticism.

I agree Reggie was very insightful. That being said I never want to see him and Grant Hill announce a game together ever again.

It was a huge ego stroking convention that derailed from the game. Then they went off on a tangent about deflated/inflated balls for 10 minutes, where the cameraman actually started shooting them instead of the game at one point. I actually missed Neil's commentary.