Mirotic At SF - What Say You?

[Moon]

Niko at SF.....gave the Bulls great rebounding v. Golden State. I enjoyed watching him play beside Noah and Gasol. As far as Thibs not knowing the status of Dunleavy....it does speak to poor communication between medical staff and or front office. When the Bulls are winning (ala v. Golden State) a lot of that internal disputes kind of falls off the table...in yeah so what. Thibs should be clear on who is his active personnel and his rotations that work. I believe that is a coaches responsibility.

[musiqsoulchild]

You don't find it concerning that the head coach said he doesn't know what's going on with a player that has been injured for about a month? Not to mention just a few games ago he was listed as game time decision and has been questionable since?

That's one hell of an ankle sprain to miss close to a month of action with no sign of return.

I think the FO is hiding something. They have been doing this for the past few seasons in regards to guys getting hurt and not letting it out just how serious the injury is.

This time I actually think he's being held back on purpose in order to buy him some rest, allow him to return at very close to a 100%.

And get Snell and Niko some playing time. Both were Gar picks.

If what you're saying is true, then this type of stuff gives proof that the FO is undermining Thibs. Not telling him what's going on with one of his top 6-7 players and forcing his hand in not allowing Thibs to play that player.

That or Dunleavy is hurt more than they originally were letting on.

I dont think its undermining him.

If you tell someone ahead of time that this is what we are going to do, thats not undermining. Now if Thibs has a tough time with that message, thats understandable as its a new way of doing things post-Swanson being hired.

[panthermark]

I meant to start a thread about it...but where the hell is MDJ? When Rose was out, I was on his ass. And to be fair...MDJ has been MIA now.....

[RedBulls23]

I dont think its undermining him.

If you tell someone ahead of time that this is what we are going to do, thats not undermining. Now if Thibs has a tough time with that message, thats understandable as its a new way of doing things post-Swanson being hired.

But he's saying he doesn't know what's going on with him. I still find it baffling that the head coach doesn't know what's going on with his starting wing?!?

That just can't be normal. It would be understandable if the injury just happened that day or the day beforr, but it been close to a month.

[musiqsoulchild]

I dont think its undermining him.

If you tell someone ahead of time that this is what we are going to do, thats not undermining. Now if Thibs has a tough time with that message, thats understandable as its a new way of doing things post-Swanson being hired.

But he's saying he doesn't know what's going on with him. I still find it baffling that the head coach doesn't know what's going on with his starting wing?!?

That just can't be normal. It would be understandable if the injury just happened that day or the day beforr, but it been close to a month.

Good timing...I just posted something similar in a different thread

Take that into account when you read the part about him not really knowing whats going on with Dunleavy.

Reading in between the line, I see that Dunleavy has his own re-conditioning program that takes into account career mileage, his age and his importance to the team in the playoffs. My guess is that this is ALL part of the Jen Swanson conditioning methodology.

Dunleavy is an older player, has lots of minutes in his career and is an important part of the team for the playoffs. So, there are legitimate reasons to bring him back not just healed...but stronger and refreshed.

This takes more time and is not the usual Thibs way. Thats what he meant by "to be honest, I really dont know". I read that as, he doesnt make the decision. Nor is it a black and white thing.

Injury management is not a black and white thing. Especially if its happening to the best athletes in the world. So, that greyness of "Dunleavy's ankle is ready, but he's not" ...may drive someone like Thibs crazy, but its the new Bulls way.

To his credit, Thibs has done a really good job of keeping it together.

[RedBulls23]

I dont think its undermining him.

If you tell someone ahead of time that this is what we are going to do, thats not undermining. Now if Thibs has a tough time with that message, thats understandable as its a new way of doing things post-Swanson being hired.

But he's saying he doesn't know what's going on with him. I still find it baffling that the head coach doesn't know what's going on with his starting wing?!?

That just can't be normal. It would be understandable if the injury just happened that day or the day beforr, but it been close to a month.

Good timing...I just posted something similar in a different thread

Take that into account when you read the part about him not really knowing whats going on with Dunleavy.

Reading in between the line, I see that Dunleavy has his own re-conditioning program that takes into account career mileage, his age and his importance to the team in the playoffs. My guess is that this is ALL part of the Jen Swanson conditioning methodology.

Dunleavy is an older player, has lots of minutes in his career and is an important part of the team for the playoffs. So, there are legitimate reasons to bring him back not just healed...but stronger and refreshed.

This takes more time and is not the usual Thibs way. Thats what he meant by "to be honest, I really dont know". I read that as, he doesnt make the decision. Nor is it a black and white thing.

Injury management is not a black and white thing. Especially if its happening to the best athletes in the world. So, that greyness of "Dunleavy's ankle is ready, but he's not" ...may drive someone like Thibs crazy, but its the new Bulls way.

To his credit, Thibs has done a really good job of keeping it together.

But it's been nearly a month. I would imagine that he would be refreshed now. I mean how long do even high ankle sprains take to heal up?

Idk, something makes me feel that they are just as likely hiding the seriousness of Dunleavy's injury.

[musiqsoulchild]

But he's saying he doesn't know what's going on with him. I still find it baffling that the head coach doesn't know what's going on with his starting wing?!?

That just can't be normal. It would be understandable if the injury just happened that day or the day beforr, but it been close to a month.

Good timing...I just posted something similar in a different thread

Take that into account when you read the part about him not really knowing whats going on with Dunleavy.

Reading in between the line, I see that Dunleavy has his own re-conditioning program that takes into account career mileage, his age and his importance to the team in the playoffs. My guess is that this is ALL part of the Jen Swanson conditioning methodology.

Dunleavy is an older player, has lots of minutes in his career and is an important part of the team for the playoffs. So, there are legitimate reasons to bring him back not just healed...but stronger and refreshed.

This takes more time and is not the usual Thibs way. Thats what he meant by "to be honest, I really dont know". I read that as, he doesnt make the decision. Nor is it a black and white thing.

Injury management is not a black and white thing. Especially if its happening to the best athletes in the world. So, that greyness of "Dunleavy's ankle is ready, but he's not" ...may drive someone like Thibs crazy, but its the new Bulls way.

To his credit, Thibs has done a really good job of keeping it together.

But it's been nearly a month. I would imagine that he would be refreshed now. I mean how long do even high ankle sprains take to heal up?

Idk, something makes me feel that they are just as likely hiding the seriousness of Dunleavy's injury.

If they are, then Thibs saying what he said is unaccpetable.

That would mean that Thibs is using the media to say the injury is much worse than is being let on and I am not being told how serious it is.

Given Thibs track record, he doesnt do this kind of stuff. Thats why I proposed an alternate explanation.

Now its also likely that when dealing with Dunleavy's ankle they found other structural issues that Jen and team felt needed healing and repair. Happens all the time. Doesnt make the injury more serious. Makes it more complex.

[fleet]

He seems like a starter or the sixth man next season right away. Th3 question is at who's expense Dougie or Taj. This comes to a head this summer as a huge topic. If Dougie is not a bust, the Bulls better put their trader hats on. The deadline this year is not the time though. Too much going on, unless you want to sell low on Dougie.