NBA Trade Deadline Thread Thursday 3PM ET Updated: 1st page 1st post with completed deals

[BuffaloBull]

Wow, MIL has to be the winner of this trade deadline.

They just added a 23 year old who put up 16/6/6 in 2 years in the worst possible atmosphere you can think of.
Just added that kid to a core with Jabari Parker - who can now play off the ball with MCW?

a great prospect in Ennis who just needs some time to figure it out.

Plumlee will keep developing and is not the headcase Sanders was.

and they have the Greek Freak too?

Holding the #6 slot right now w/o Jabari. This could be a team to reckon with the next couple of years if Parker turns into the plyer were expecting.

One more big man who puts up 10+PPG and they wil be rolling the Fear the Deer signs back out....

Agree 100% with your analysis...said the same thing to Mark as well.

One good big man and they are in the Top 4 of the East next season.

Do they still have a pick this draft? Kaminsky would actually be a good fit if he's there for them to take. If you are rolling out MCW, the Freak and Jabari, you need as much shooting as you can find to balance things out.

[musiqsoulchild]

Wow, MIL has to be the winner of this trade deadline.

They just added a 23 year old who put up 16/6/6 in 2 years in the worst possible atmosphere you can think of.
Just added that kid to a core with Jabari Parker - who can now play off the ball with MCW?

a great prospect in Ennis who just needs some time to figure it out.

Plumlee will keep developing and is not the headcase Sanders was.

and they have the Greek Freak too?

Holding the #6 slot right now w/o Jabari. This could be a team to reckon with the next couple of years if Parker turns into the plyer were expecting.

One more big man who puts up 10+PPG and they wil be rolling the Fear the Deer signs back out....

Agree 100% with your analysis...said the same thing to Mark as well.

One good big man and they are in the Top 4 of the East next season.

Do they still have a pick this draft? Kaminsky would actually be a good fit if he's there for them to take. If you are rolling out MCW, the Freak and Jabari, you need as much shooting as you can find to balance things out.

Per Draft Express, it looks like they still own their pick.

Kaminsky is a good fit, but I think he wont last that deep. His stock is going up for sure. It sucks because he has a Wisconsin connection --- something that would be nice for the Bucks to have.

[MC3]

It would not only be nice to come to the board and not have to read such vitriol, but also not find it temporarily shut down one day due to an investigation by law enforcement.

My bad, bit of harsh words, wanted to delete but I was quoted so it stayed even if deleted it. I was mad. Still mad. But you can only do much when you angry and you can't do nothing about it and you feel helpless. If admin thinks it will do harm he should delete it.

[musiqsoulchild]

It would not only be nice to come to the board and not have to read such vitriol, but also not find it temporarily shut down one day due to an investigation by law enforcement.

My bad, bit of harsh words, wanted to delete but I was quoted so it stayed even if deleted it. I was mad. Still mad. But you can only do much when you angry and you can't do nothing about it and you feel helpless. If admin thinks it will do harm he should delete it.

Its really simple MC3.

Anytime you want to say " I want to SHOOT him in the head", just type " I dont like him" instead.

See?

Honestly, I appreciate your ability to self-reflect. You are fun to have on the boards....just calm down on the crazy stuff a little

[MC3]

ok

[EastBayFJ]

On the Bucks....

Everyone is forgetting John Henson who is really developing into a quality big

What they need more than anything else is a vet wing who can give smart , efficient volume and has a quality outside shooting game

If the Bucks don't get hard as they can for Joe Johnson in the off season I will be amazed

Plumlee
Parker
The Greek
Johnson
MCW

Henson
Middleton
Dudley
Ennis

That's pretty good

[Indomitable]

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The Bucks are already a very good defensive team. Now, with MCW, Giannis and Henson, that's a lot of length to alter shots/passes.

He can also slot into a more comfortable offensively role as a 3rd or 4th option, of which he is clearly better suited to..

That is a team that cannot shoot. Wow that will be a dreadful offense.

Knowing Kidd and the rap on him in his career that he couldnt shoot...he's probably gonna say..."Yeah, but we can make a layup...coz I make the team run."

That team is athletic as all hell and strong above the rim.

Will have no spacing and weak in the low post.

[EastBayFJ]

That is a team that cannot shoot. Wow that will be a dreadful offense.

Knowing Kidd and the rap on him in his career that he couldnt shoot...he's probably gonna say..."Yeah, but we can make a layup...coz I make the team run."

That team is athletic as all hell and strong above the rim.

Will have no spacing and weak in the low post.

Jabari will be their low post threat supported by athletic dirty bigs like Henson, Plumlee and even his forward partner Gianns

A vet big like Spencer Hawes would be perfect for them

And Joe Johnson at the 2

[No-Man]

Fisch, your opinion seems to be very heavily influenced by a strong belief that MCW is an awful basketball player. So I'm not sure there is much point in continuing.

What Philly is doing is interesting and might work. But it falls far short of praise with words like "amazing" and "awesome." They traded MCW for a protected pick, which they may very well cash in this year, and KJ McDaniels for nothing. You say its year 2, which is true. But at the end of year 2 they will have nothing to show for it but an empty roster, and questionable supposed franchise player, and hopes. They are virtually guaranteeing at least a 4 year plan to arise merely beyond not terrible, unless they cash in some picks and/or sign some veteran free agents.

They trade MCW for an asset that has more value than him clearly.
They trade McDaniels a guy they were not going to re-sign for Canaan who is a similar prospect and another 2nd round pick, what Mcdaniels was.

They have embiid, noel, saric, some good role players in covington, canaan and grant, they have a huge amount of good-great picks.
You dont like what they are doing, I can get that, but stop, it is just not true.

[No-Man]

What has K.J. McDaniels done? He's 2nd among rookies in blocks (68; Noel is 1st). He's 5th among rookies in steals (44). He's 4th among rookies in scoring (9.2). That's pretty good, especially for a 2nd round pick.

No, he isn't a very good shooter, and he may never really become one, because he wasn't a particularly good shooter in college, either. But he is very athletic with the potential to be a big-time defensive stopper. If he can be any kind of consistent threat on offense (say 10-12 ppg), someone will pay him good $$$ down the road. Will he ever be a max contract guy? Unlikely. But I could see him making $8-$10 million per year someday if his offense improves.

you are making assumptions without watching him play, at all, and reading basically numbers.

He is nothing special, there are guys like him in every class, and the 76ers have better prospects at the same position.

[No-Man]

Wow, MIL has to be the winner of this trade deadline.

They just added a 23 year old who put up 16/6/6 in 2 years in the worst possible atmosphere you can think of.
Just added that kid to a core with Jabari Parker - who can now play off the ball with MCW?

a great prospect in Ennis who just needs some time to figure it out.

Plumlee will keep developing and is not the headcase Sanders was.

and they have the Greek Freak too?

Holding the #6 slot right now w/o Jabari. This could be a team to reckon with the next couple of years if Parker turns into the plyer were expecting.

One more big man who puts up 10+PPG and they wil be rolling the Fear the Deer signs back out....

Plumlee is a scrub, he might be able to stay in the league for 2-3 more years but that is it.
The Bucks screwed it big time but including Philly in the deal instead of getting straight up the Lakers pick which is far more valuable, sespecially for a rebuilding team, than MCW.
Ennis is a great prospect for a back-up PG yes, maybe he will develop and have a career similar to Howard Eisley's.

The Bucks are holding the 6th spot because they have a bunch of veterans that can play and the East is pure crap, they have no chance with only that, if Parker and Giannis do not develop into difference makers, superstars, we know what MCW is, they wont be dangerous at all.
They made a good deal because they wont overpay for Knight now, but they could have done MUCH better.

[WesleyExChiFan]

You'd be wrong.

Analytic trends played a huge part in the Mavs, Heat, and Spurs titles.

I'd wager that superstars played a (much) larger part.

Analytics are good if you're the Oakland A's and you want to be competitive with the resources you have. There's no salary cap in baseball IIRC. It's something they used to level the playing field. When the playing field is (more or less) leveled, then it doesn't make as much of a difference. Also, basketball is much more dynamic than baseball. The stop and start nature of baseball lends itself to mathematical analysis more than basketball. Also, analytics won't help against generational talent.

What you're taking about is sabermetrics. Analytics is a diffrent thing. Actually it's pretty inacurte choice of words by whoever come out with 'analytics'.

Analytics are kind of a taking sport as a science. You have plenty of numbers in science but none of them matter if you don't have people behind who can take those numbers and prove stuff with them.

Last year Spurs are definitly one of the teams that prove that analytics work. They spaced the floor like no one else ever. They turn in undervalued guys into worthy players (Green, Diaw), they've drafted well (Parker, Manu, Kawhi), they've used regular season to get everyone healthy and ready to contribute. All of those things are part of analytics.

Okay, I can dig that. Best explanation I've heard yet. Thanks!