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Re: 2018 Draft Thread Lucky #7 

Post#661 » by Leslie Forman » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:31 am

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tong po wrote:Bamba is a big body who lacks a lot of athletic ability.


Not true at all.

Yes it is. You can't seriously tell me that guy is an above average athlete by modern NBA center standards.

Subpar explosiveness, quickness and strength. Everything he does is reliant on his length. He isn't any more athletic than Asik.

Mind you, that length is spectacular. It's why he's probably guaranteed to be at least a decent defender in this league. But a truly great one? Ehhhhh…
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Post#662 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:33 am

Bamba had plenty of explosive KG/Bosh moments in his high school tapes. Probably one of the main reasons I was so high on him.

Sorry Tong Po but I'm not sure what you're watching, he's 10x the athlete Omer Asik is lol
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Post#663 » by Benedict Miller » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:40 am

Bamba's I.Q. on offense is awful, needs work on his ball skills and being more confident with the ball. Add a ton of muscle to his lower body to have better balance. He has potential to be an all star.
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Post#664 » by Rose2Boozer » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:59 am

Bamba's first couple of years will consist of him making himself available, catching the basketball, and dunking. My concerns about Bamba is more directed at his abnormal body. How will his body fill out, and will it be able to hold up to the NBA grind.

That being said, I would love for him to be the prospect that falls wherever the Bulls select.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread Lucky #7 

Post#665 » by Leslie Forman » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:05 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:Bamba had plenty of explosive KG/Bosh moments in his high school tapes. Probably one of the main reasons I was so high on him.

Sorry Tong Po but I'm not sure what you're watching, he's 10x the athlete Omer Asik is lol

And Omer Asik would've looked like freaking Shaq against a bunch of high school kids. High school kids are trash.

Watch his highlights more critically. See if he's actually appearing explosive, or if he just has really really really long arms.

He's just not that great an athlete. He is the most athletically overrated prospect I've seen in some time.

But hey it may not matter because of that length.
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Post#666 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:14 am

The Force. wrote:Young is an ideal fit for Hoiball and I really like his fit w/ Lauri. The issue is he's a horrible fit with Dunn and LaVine. Dunn is basically a non-factor playing off ball (which is where he would have to play) and a LaVine/Young backcourt would be epically bad defensively.

I'd be cool with taking a flyer on him but would not feel good if they also sign LaVine long term.

I think the Bulls are eying one of JJJ, Bamba, or Mikal, and they'll take whoever falls to them. If they move up, I would assume they take Bagley.



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Post#667 » by DanTown8587 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:58 am

tong po wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Bamba had plenty of explosive KG/Bosh moments in his high school tapes. Probably one of the main reasons I was so high on him.

Sorry Tong Po but I'm not sure what you're watching, he's 10x the athlete Omer Asik is lol

And Omer Asik would've looked like freaking Shaq against a bunch of high school kids. High school kids are trash.

Watch his highlights more critically. See if he's actually appearing explosive, or if he just has really really really long arms.

He's just not that great an athlete. He is the most athletically overrated prospect I've seen in some time.

But hey it may not matter because of that length.


If you think Mo Bamba and Omer Asik move the same way, I simply cannot tell what you're watching. Bamba might not be an explosive leaper ala Tyson Chandler but if you literally watch him run, he runs exceptionally well for a big man, especially in space and especially well for a guy with a 9'6" reach.

Is he ever going to be the second half of the CP3/Tyson Chandler lob play? I highly doubt it but his agility and versatility on the perimeter when paired with his elite reach and decent vertical ability makes him an insanely different prospect than Omer.
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Post#668 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:29 am

Rose2Boozer wrote:Bamba's first couple of years will consist of him making himself available, catching the basketball, and dunking. My concerns about Bamba is more directed at his abnormal body. How will his body fill out, and will it be able to hold up to the NBA grind.

That being said, I would love for him to be the prospect that falls wherever the Bulls select.


Though I agree that he has abnormal arms and what not, body structure wise though he is quite well proportioned, and his core has a solid build. And he has really solid broad shoulders, so he has the frame to add bulk which he is already filling out slowly but surely.

I personally think he has a better frame than someone like KP.
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Post#669 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:15 am

Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our point guard and savior, Trae Young?
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Post#670 » by Jeffster81 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:42 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our point guard and savior, Trae Young?


Every time I think of Trae Young, I can't help be see "Lou Williams" in his future. Not a bad player, but not the "PG and savior."
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Post#671 » by Benedict Miller » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:12 am

tong po wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
tong po wrote:Bamba is a big body who lacks a lot of athletic ability.


Not true at all.

Yes it is. You can't seriously tell me that guy is an above average athlete by modern NBA center standards.

Subpar explosiveness, quickness and strength. Everything he does is reliant on his length. He isn't any more athletic than Asik.

Mind you, that length is spectacular. It's why he's probably guaranteed to be at least a decent defender in this league. But a truly great one? Ehhhhh…


He moves quite well for a guy his size. He'll be more explosive once he hits the weight room.
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Post#672 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:45 am

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tong po wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
Not true at all.

Yes it is. You can't seriously tell me that guy is an above average athlete by modern NBA center standards.

Subpar explosiveness, quickness and strength. Everything he does is reliant on his length. He isn't any more athletic than Asik.

Mind you, that length is spectacular. It's why he's probably guaranteed to be at least a decent defender in this league. But a truly great one? Ehhhhh…


He moves quite well for a guy his size. He'll be more explosive once he hits the weight room.


omer asik huh? lol dude is lookin like a KG/D12 hybrid in this vid defensively and athletically. He's out there playing volleyball on defense. Look at the fear in those ball handlers lol

I was going to upload the nicolas cage gif....it's all good tong po lol
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Post#673 » by TheHrvReport » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:33 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:
Benedict Miller wrote:
tong po wrote:Yes it is. You can't seriously tell me that guy is an above average athlete by modern NBA center standards.

Subpar explosiveness, quickness and strength. Everything he does is reliant on his length. He isn't any more athletic than Asik.

Mind you, that length is spectacular. It's why he's probably guaranteed to be at least a decent defender in this league. But a truly great one? Ehhhhh…


He moves quite well for a guy his size. He'll be more explosive once he hits the weight room.


omer asik huh? lol dude is lookin like a KG/D12 hybrid in this vid defensively and athletically. He's out there playing volleyball on defense. Look at the fear in those ball handlers lol

I was going to upload the nicolas cage gif....it's all good tong po lol

How people fail to see the value in a player like Bamba is beyond me...or even compare him to someone like Thabeet or Biyombo. Come on. I'll be ecstatic if we get Bamba at 6 or 7
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Post#674 » by Axolotl » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:43 am

Ok, I now took some time to catch up on Mo Bamba. He is clearly a project - but a project with exceptional physique. His reach is just unreal. At 9' 6" standing reach he can can touch the rim without jumping, and with his 7' 9" wingspan he can control a large part of the 3pt line.

His rebounding is already on a good level, but would benefit from more aggressive approach. He just seems too nice sometimes, he'd need a bit of a killer instinct.

The unreal reach means that he can block shots without even jumping, which is good. That also means he is likely to be an outstanding defender. His length alone forces altered shots.

He needs a lot more mass and strength, right now he is bullied in the post by his peers. His body type looks to be such, that he is never going to be a power big.

I have no problems with his movement. He may not be an explosive athlete, but his other physical tools mean that he doesn't need to be. His step is quick enough, and his straight speed is good. Once he gains more strength, I have no doubt that he'll be more explosive too.

He has good defensive instincts, reads the game well, can make the switches needed, and is a very good pick and roll defender.

Reach also gives him an edge on offence, since he can shoot over pretty much anyone. The problem is, he is a not a good shooter, so that offensive weapon is near unusable.

On offence, his only really effective around the rim, and poor to bad anywhere else, so he is useless in pick and pop.

If you think he will develop an effective jumper, let alone 3pt shot, he is a great pick. He might develop those, since his shooting mechanics look healthy to me. His FT% is just over 60 though, which imo tells the story of his below par shooting.

What he is now is a catch and finish from right underneath the rim, which I don't think he'll be able to comfortably do in the NBA. His slender build means that he would be bullied right out of his comfort zone.

He is also effective in at least driving straight to the hoop, where his reach makes him virtually unstoppable. How do you stop someone who has the ball at the height of the top of the backboard, and crashes it down from there?

He would be an excellent roll man in pick and roll, but he is not really doing that. So there's another if right there: if he develops his roll game, it'd take his offensive game up a notch.

He has good bbiq, which can be seen in fast breaks and transitions, and his passing is at least adequate. As a ball handler, he is nothing special, but has the abilities required.

He looks like someone who might flourish in a pace and space offence - if he would develop that roll game or a more reliable jumper.

What worries me some is whether he has the effort and the desire to win, because at times he looks lackadaisical on the floor.

All in all, a likely defensive anchor with lots of ifs on offence.
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Post#675 » by No-Man » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:51 am

Considering Dunn and LaVine factors on whether to draft Trae or not, or any other player really, it's moronic, I am sure the FO might do that, but they shouldn't.

LaVine shouldn't even be retained if he commands a high price to be honest.
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Post#676 » by thebizkit » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:11 pm

I'm just not sold on Bamba as a top 10 pick. I mean, you can literally just sign a similar player via free agency in Nerlens Noel.
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Post#677 » by Axolotl » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:28 pm

thebizkit wrote:I'm just not sold on Bamba as a top 10 pick. I mean, you can literally just sign a similar player via free agency in Nerlens Noel.


I'm not 100% on Bamba either, but he is a top 10 prospect. He is somewhat similar to Noel, but way more promising. He is, for example, already better with the ball and has better offensive game. Plus, Bamba is still developing.
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Post#678 » by JimmyJammer » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:39 pm

When I see what Gobert's presence means to the Utah Jazz, it's hard for me to argue against the idea of bringing Bamba over. He is the closest thing to Rudy Gobert we will find in years to come. He could be a generational player. We are one of the worst defensive teams in the league, so I am really down with that.
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Post#679 » by molepharmer » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:40 pm

Chi town wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
League Circles wrote:I doubt he falls that far, but I'd be fine with him in the 7-9 range. Not necessarily my #1 choice, but we'd be fortunate if he fell that far. I like him more than Porter.
I do too. I think MPJ is going to fall out of the top 5. He looked to me like somebody who had back surgery last month not last year. Stiff as a board. I would be really worried about it regardless of what medical reports say. He has such limited experience against anyone but high school children, many of who aren't even playing college BB. He came in and was selfish as hell for two games. Never made his teammates better in HS. I watched the entire McD's game and he didn't really impress me at all despite being MVP. He couldn't finish over high schoolers except on a lob pass. He looked stiff to me even before his surgery.
I think MPJ is hyped fool's gold but I think some team will overdraft him and take him 4-5.

Right now you can pretty much say that about any of the prospective top 7-ish picks. Welcome to this year's draft class. People have significant questions about even the general consensus #1 pick Ayton.
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Post#680 » by JimmyJammer » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:43 pm

thebizkit wrote:I'm just not sold on Bamba as a top 10 pick. I mean, you can literally just sign a similar player via free agency in Nerlens Noel.


I have been pushing for the Nerlens Noël thing for a while, so I can dig it. If we can get him on a reasonable contract, I am in. Nerlens and Mikal Bridges can really help us establish an identity defensively. I would take a chance on that Brunson kid with our Pelicans pick.

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