According to Mike McGraw, Aldridge wants the Bulls

[d][R][o][s][e] · Post #101 » by **[d][R][o][s][e]** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:30 pm

Meyers Leonard.. what if portland adds him? we get our center.

dice · Post #102 » by **dice** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:30 pm

aldridge ain't much better than boozer, we have a glut of PFs. this is the worst fantasy trade ever

kyrv · Post #103 » by **kyrv** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:31 pm

MissileMike wrote:You can say all you want about rebounding or whatever, but last season Aldridge had a 21.2 per and his +/- was +9.1. Those are both fantastic. The best part of this is that McGraw is reporting it, and he's very reliable.

Why thank you!

He's not a good rebounder or defender.

jmajew · Post #104 » by **jmajew** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:31 pm

I think it is time the Bulls cash in on Mirotic and the Charlotte pick.

PMONSTER · Post #105 » by **PMONSTER** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:32 pm

[d][R][o][s][e] wrote:Meyers Leonard.. what if portland adds him? we get our center.

They not hearing you.

otwok · Post #106 » by **otwok** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:33 pm

drosestruts wrote:Chicago in: Aldridge

Clippers in: Aaron Affalo, Luol Deng and Kyle O'Quinn

Portland in: DeAndre Jordan, #20 pick, Charlotte Pick, Thomas Robinson

Orlando in: Eric Bledsoe, Caron Butler

Houston: Chicago TPE

Probably still not enough. Trying to fit different rumors.

I know the Blazers were inquiring about Jordan. With some creativity this may work.

Hangtime84 · Post #107 » by **Hangtime84** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:34 pm

red222 wrote:To get Aldridge without dealing Noah
Turn Deng into a top pick
Get TRob
Add Bobcat pick
and add Mirotic

Are we talking about trading for Aldridge or Dwight Howard. I know LMA is good but dayuuum

dice wrote:aldridge ain't much better than boozer, we have a glut of PFs. this is the worst fantasy trade ever

aaqubed · Post #108 » by **aaqubed** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:34 pm

kyrv wrote:
chicagobullz48 wrote:What type of player is LA? Never watched the blazers pre-lilard and i never noticed him for some reason.I know he's great but i just never paid attention lol.

Not good defensively, poor rebounder for a big, jump shooting big who can get you some volume on not good efficiency. Not horrible efficiency.

One thing to point out, the Bulls don't have to be better than league average efficiency, they have to be better than their opponents. So someone giving volume at 53 or 54% TS is probably helping the team, maybe helping a lot.

Aldridge and Boozer defensively, yikes.

Aldridge and Taj rebounding, could be a bit of an issue too.

He's not that bad defensively. He's pretty underrated there actually. Based on RAPM, he was +2.1 on D (comparison, Deng was +2.7, Taj +5.0, Boozer -0.2).

He's not a plus rebounder, he's not a shotblocker, but he'd be a big upgrade defensively over Boozer.

Profound23 · Post #109 » by **Profound23** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:34 pm

mrlancers wrote:Gotta get a third team involved. We don't have anything other than Noah that they want.

Aldridge from Portland to Chicago

Gordon from N.O. to PHX and Xavier Henry from N.O. to Chicago

Beasley/Shannon Brown/Dudley from PHX to Portland

Boozer/draft pick from Chicago to N.O.

Bulls trade Boozer/draft pick and land Aldridge/Xavier Henry.

Red Larrivee · Post #110 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:35 pm

The thing about Aldridge that's always been concerning is that he isn't super-efficient for a player of his stature, size and ability.

Career 53.7%TS, which is worse than two of Boozer's seasons as a Bull.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #111 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:36 pm

Profound23 wrote:
mrlancers wrote:Gotta get a third team involved. We don't have anything other than Noah that they want.

Aldridge from Portland to Chicago

Gordon from N.O. to PHX and Xavier Henry from N.O. to Chicago

Beasley/Shannon Brown/Dudley from PHX to Portland

Boozer/draft pick from Chicago to N.O.

Bulls trade Boozer/draft pick and land Aldridge/Xavier Henry.

Okay then...

Post #112 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:39 pm

kyrv wrote:
MissileMike wrote:You can say all you want about rebounding or whatever, but last season Aldridge had a 21.2 per and his +/- was +9.1. Those are both fantastic. The best part of this is that McGraw is reporting it, and he's very reliable.

Why thank you!

He's not a good rebounder or defender.

He IS a good defender. Not great, but good.

It's interesting. I wonder if we could REALLY make a big blockbuster trade along these lines:

Boozer/Hamilton for Humphries/Brooks/#22

Deng for Varejao/19

Varejao+incentives like picks, Brooks, possibly Mirotic go to Portland and we receive Aldridge

We then have to use further incentives/Gibson to get another contributor at the 2/3. It may be as easy as that Carter+13 for our TPE deal.

[d][R][o][s][e] · Post #113 » by **[d][R][o][s][e]** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:45 pm

if blazers' get the cat's pick.. they somewhat got lma and tyrus in 1 draft

Pnjguy · Post #114 » by **Pnjguy** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:45 pm

Deng for the #7 pick
#20 for Thomas Robinson

Robinson
#7
Charlotte #1
Mirotic

for

Aldridge

ryannik09 · Post #115 » by **ryannik09** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:48 pm

Marc Stein is reporting the Bulls want Robinson so they can flip him in another deal. Could this be connected to a potential Aldridge trade?

Post #116 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:48 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:The thing about Aldridge that's always been concerning is that he isn't super-efficient for a player of his stature, size and ability.

Career 53.7%TS, which is worse than two of Boozer's seasons as a Bull.

He's been more efficient every year that Boozer's been a Bull.

Boozer: .542, .549, .510

Aldridge: .549, .560, .530

And his turnover rate is nearly non-existent, 4% lower than Boozers, giving him a significant edge in efficiency and volume. Combine that with his isolation ability (54% assisted the past 3 years versus Boozer's 64-73% assisted), his position defense, his ability to play at Center for stretches, his age, his appropriate contract, and his relative good health, and he's a player who's worth getting-- but you've GOT to get a way to reasonably rid yourself of Boozer while getting SOMETHING back valuewise.

Amnestying him means it'll cost you two starters and assets to get Aldridge, and we can't really afford that kind of sacrifice. With the above trade we at least get 2 rotation players and a pick.

DroseReturnChi · Post #117 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:49 pm

Deng + Mirotic for Aldridge seems perfect.

DroseReturnChi · Post #118 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:51 pm

or Deng + Robinson for Aldridge after we trade for T-rob using the 20th pick.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #119 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:52 pm

Pnjguy wrote:Deng for the #7 pick
#20 for Thomas Robinson

Robinson
#7
Charlotte #1
Mirotic

for

Aldridge

Salaries don't work.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #120 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:54 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
mrlancers wrote:Gotta get a third team involved. We don't have anything other than Noah that they want.

Aldridge from Portland to Chicago

Gordon from N.O. to PHX and Xavier Henry from N.O. to Chicago

Beasley/Shannon Brown/Dudley from PHX to Portland

Boozer/draft pick from Chicago to N.O.

Bulls trade Boozer/draft pick and land Aldridge/Xavier Henry.

Okay then...

LOL, seriously. That'd be like someone offering us Beasley, Brown, and Dudley for Noah.