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Peelboy wrote:Sign anyone to short-term or value deals. In current situation there’s little to no downside there as long as Fred is onboard with development being the key.
Rehabilitating guys like Hood and flipping them is EXACTLY what the team should do. But it’s all about what contract you sign them to.
WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.
WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.
League Circles wrote:Nate3carp wrote:League Circles wrote:Signing other teams free agents to one-year contracts is almost useless because we will not have their bird rights at the end of the year. At least last time I checked the rule is that you cannot have changed teams as a free agent within the previous three years and have your current team retain bird rights.
You get non-bird rights and if you have enough space to overpay in year one (we do), you can sign a multi year deal the next year without using cap space for a lower amount.
What do you mean "without using cap space"?
Non bird free agents can be kept in excess of the salary cap, but like all free agents, they have a cap hold. Specifically 120% of their contract that just ended.
So if we sign a guy like Rodney Hood to a deal for say 10 mil, then next summer we have to renounce him to free up that money if we want to use it on an actual good free agent, and then lose Hood.
Nate3carp wrote:League Circles wrote:Nate3carp wrote:You get non-bird rights and if you have enough space to overpay in year one (we do), you can sign a multi year deal the next year without using cap space for a lower amount.
What do you mean "without using cap space"?
Non bird free agents can be kept in excess of the salary cap, but like all free agents, they have a cap hold. Specifically 120% of their contract that just ended.
So if we sign a guy like Rodney Hood to a deal for say 10 mil, then next summer we have to renounce him to free up that money if we want to use it on an actual good free agent, and then lose Hood.
Should have been more clear, my bad. Was meaning to say if we want to sign him to let’s say a 3 yr $45 mil deal, we can overpay on a one year deal (say $25 mil) and then do a 2 year deal next summer for 2/$20, even if we were over the cap as we’d still have non-bird rights.
NecessaryEvil wrote:One more thing, extend Bobby now. Price tag goes up higher if he becomes 6MOY. Looks leaner, quicker & will only get better.
drosestruts wrote:Dez wrote:People are really overstating the impact of that Felicio contract, it's 8 million a year.
Hardly the albatross contract people try to make it out to be.
I think people are honestly still adjusting to the raised salary floor. $8m is MLE money, couple years ago that was $5m. It's percentage wise the same.
I also am still holding out on Felicio and hope he can put something together, no sure what happened last year but he played with no confidence at all. I feel like I've typed this out multiple times but Felicio can shoot, he routinely caught the ball beyond the 3-point line and was WIDE OPEN. If he starts taking that shot some times AND hits them, it would open up things for us so much! Our offense wasn't that great last year, a wide-open Felicio 3 was probably a better option than a contested Dunn mid-range 2.
Make people guard you Felicio! Play with some confidence! He could be an elite offensive rebounder capable of stretching the floor, would be a pretty unique back-up center to have. Think of how spirit crushing it is when Tristain Thompson grabs an offensive rebound, now image if he could knock down a 3!?!?!
Unfortunately I don't see Felicio ever fixing his fouling issues enough to play big minutes, but 10-15 minutes a night bringing energy, boarding and occasionally hitting a shot would be a huge boost to our bench unit.
Ok, Felicio rant over.
LaVine definitely back? Hopefully on a reasonable contract? Will they sign him outright or does he have to get an offer?holv03 wrote:Bulls will be targeting another wing. Rodney Hood will be a player that the Bulls will look to add for a reasonable price. Lavine is coming back and Nwaba most likely will be back if he accepts the QO.
rtblues wrote:Any reports on how much Felicio is weighing in at these days?
Lauri_Bird wrote:NecessaryEvil wrote:One more thing, extend Bobby now. Price tag goes up higher if he becomes 6MOY. Looks leaner, quicker & will only get better.
Bobby would be a beast if he had 80% of Marvin Bagley athleticism...
BigJimFinn wrote:drosestruts wrote:Dez wrote:People are really overstating the impact of that Felicio contract, it's 8 million a year.
Hardly the albatross contract people try to make it out to be.
I think people are honestly still adjusting to the raised salary floor. $8m is MLE money, couple years ago that was $5m. It's percentage wise the same.
I also am still holding out on Felicio and hope he can put something together, no sure what happened last year but he played with no confidence at all. I feel like I've typed this out multiple times but Felicio can shoot, he routinely caught the ball beyond the 3-point line and was WIDE OPEN. If he starts taking that shot some times AND hits them, it would open up things for us so much! Our offense wasn't that great last year, a wide-open Felicio 3 was probably a better option than a contested Dunn mid-range 2.
Make people guard you Felicio! Play with some confidence! He could be an elite offensive rebounder capable of stretching the floor, would be a pretty unique back-up center to have. Think of how spirit crushing it is when Tristain Thompson grabs an offensive rebound, now image if he could knock down a 3!?!?!
Unfortunately I don't see Felicio ever fixing his fouling issues enough to play big minutes, but 10-15 minutes a night bringing energy, boarding and occasionally hitting a shot would be a huge boost to our bench unit.
Ok, Felicio rant over.
Felicio is a 66% free throw shooter. How many sub-70% FT shooting guys have become even average three-point shooters?
He has also made exactly 0 three-pointers in three seasons. Even the dumbest commentators can say "there is a reason why he is wide open" about Felicio. Many veteran bigs have recently increased their value by adding a decent three-point shot, so he should try to do it, because otherwise he will never see another contract. I won't hold my breath waiting.
If you can find a player capable of terrorising the offensive glass and spotting up for 3s at the same time, you have truly cracked the system (and the space-time continuum). The reason TT can make such an impact on the boards is because it is the only thing he does after setting the initial screen and getting a switch to a smaller defender. It is smart to let a limited-minutes guy focus on what he is very good at. It would not be as smart to stick a guy like that in the corner even if he could hit 35% on uncontested threes, he still won't have gravity and he would no longer be where he is most effective. Best example of a guy who can do both that I can think of is Ryan Anderson, who in his prime got three 3PM and three ORB per 36. Nowadays he just hangs out way behind the arc. He has obviously been a volume shooter from the minute he stepped on the court. That is not an easy player model to follow.
thedarkstark wrote:Use cap space to absorb contracts and acquire draft picks/young talent.
Do NOT sign any big contracts, the kids need playing time.
Dunn 34 min / Grant 14 min
Lavine 34 min / Holiday 14 min
Valentine 30 min / Hutchinson 18 min
Lauri 34 min / Bobby 26 min
Carter 26 min / Rolo 10 min
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cmon man, this aint even believable at this point
