OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond

Post #101 » by **RedBulls23** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 am

dice · Post #102 » by **dice** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:47 am

RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy basically is so scared Mitch will screw up he decided to let the clock go down and waste opportunities to get at the very least a closer FG.

eh, it wasn't fear of mitch that prevented running the ball once or twice. nor allowing mitch to pass on the last play prior to the kneeldown when they were already withing FG range and he almost got sacked to move them OUT of FG range. THAT's when nagy should've been scared and said to mitch "any pressure at all and get rid of the ball. DO NOT take a sack"

by the way, nagy's purported reasoning that running the ball rather than kneeling risked losing yardage is doubly stupid given that kneeling LOSES YARDAGE!

dice · Post #103 » by **dice** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:06 am

RedBulls23 wrote:

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i've been saying the same thing since pre-season. the difference w/ jacksonville is that 1) their defense wasn't quite as good as the bears were last season, 2) bortles had been awful for a few years before he played well that season and 3) bortles wasn't as good in that his 4th season as trubisky was in his 2nd season

and jax gave bortles a 3 yr extension following his one good season only to cut him before this season. they basically paid him a $15 mil signing bonus plus $10.5 in salary for playing like crap last season

ATRAIN53 · Post #104 » by **ATRAIN53** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:15 pm

Nagy totally losing it. Guy is like Marc Trestman II.

Jordan Howard takes that ball on 3rd down, DOES NOT FUMBLE it and gets 3, 4 5 more yards and we make that kick.
We're not idiots Matt.

Chi town · Post #105 » by **Chi town** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:24 pm

Watched the Nagy and Mitch pressers...

Pretty obvious that Nagy is blaming Mitch and doesn’t believe in him. Makes me wonder if Nagy has believed that he could coach him and no long does. Or he’s so in over his head he doesn’t know what’s going on.

Post #106 » by **RedBulls23** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:35 pm

Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

Chi town · Post #107 » by **Chi town** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:39 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

That’s what should have happened in the preseason. We are past that now.

If Nagy commits to the run game like he did yesterday and puts in Daniel for Mitch I bet we’d rally and get to 8-8 or 9-7.

Betta Bulleavit · Post #108 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:54 pm

Chi town wrote:Watched the Nagy and Mitch pressers...

Pretty obvious that Nagy is blaming Mitch and doesn’t believe in him. Makes me wonder if Nagy has believed that he could coach him and no long does. Or he’s so in over his head he doesn’t know what’s going on.

How did you come away with that?

Betta Bulleavit · Post #109 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 pm

Chi town wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

That’s what should have happened in the preseason. We are past that now.

If Nagy commits to the run game like he did yesterday and puts in Daniel for Mitch I bet we’d rally and get to 8-8 or 9-7.

What in blue hell is changing out Mitch for Chase going to do???? Did you not watch the Raiders game??? The guy was throwing footballs to where ONLY the raiders could catch it. He cannot avoid a sack to save his life. Seriously?!

Post #110 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:02 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

They tried that at times. Mitch sunk. Then they tried to continue winning anyway.

Post #111 » by **RedBulls23** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:06 pm

dougthonus wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

They tried that at times. Mitch sunk. Then they tried to continue winning anyway.

Don't think they have. We've heard countless times that the playbook has been simplified.

I fully expect him to sink though. He's just not a good QB, no matter who the coach is.

Stratmaster · Post #112 » by **Stratmaster** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:23 pm

https://youtu.be/7wd_L3ejXIs

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jsleesl28 · Post #113 » by **jsleesl28** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:27 pm

nick foles anyone?

or does the money make this impossible? i honestly dont know.

Red Larrivee · Post #114 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:28 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
Chi town wrote:Watched the Nagy and Mitch pressers...

Pretty obvious that Nagy is blaming Mitch and doesn’t believe in him. Makes me wonder if Nagy has believed that he could coach him and no long does. Or he’s so in over his head he doesn’t know what’s going on.

How did you come away with that?

Nagy's been coaching that way all season. Whether it's passing or running the ball, the gameplan is created to not make Trubisky think or do too much.

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Post #115 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:53 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:Don't think they have. We've heard countless times that the playbook has been simplified.

I fully expect him to sink though. He's just not a good QB, no matter who the coach is.

How many long passes has he whiffed on or threw inaccurately this year? Had a wide open receiver down field that he overthrew and fumbled the next play. Lots of attempts at more open plays have happened that worked and Mitch missed the guy.

You simply can't count on him to make a throw further than 10 yards consistently.

BigUps · Post #116 » by **BigUps** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:02 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:Nagy needs to open the playbook up and let Mitch sink or swim. No more kid gloves. If he looks like ass, then it gives the organization even more reason to start looking for another QB this offseason.

Nagy needs to bench Mitch and bring Bray into the mix. This season needs to transition into a season to figure out what you do or don't have on the team so we an adjust. Mitch isn't the answer long term. He's proven that (to me at least), so let's give Bray a few snaps and see if he's in the future plans as a backup or anything greater than that.

Going to Bray won't arguably make us any worse, thats how bad Mitch has been. Daniel isn't the future, so lets see what Bray has.

HearshotKDS · Post #117 » by **HearshotKDS** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:13 pm

The unfortunate mismanagement of the end of game field goal has done a lot to distract people from the 2 fourth quarter turnovers inside the Bears 30 (in a 1 score game). That's what lost the lead, and those 2 plays plus the missed shot to 4.27 speed WR 1 on 1 against a 36 year old MLB with no safety help were what decided the game. This was a 2-5 team with nothing to play for, who really weren't all that interested in winning this game. Even their reactions to the missed kick were kinda "huh, look at that they missed?" Doing "just enough" is not an acceptable performance, this needed to be a WAS type game from the QB to get some semblance of confidence back. I've been off the "Mitch is the future" train pretty much since the GB game (I had concerns about his ability to perform well in high pressure/against good teams), but I have to wonder if he is too mentally broken at this point to even beat up on the cupcakes? Unfortunately the Bears only have 1 more of those left on the schedule. The seasons over, I wonder if Nagy decides to bench Mitch just to show that he can coach a quasi-competent (if unspectacular) offense with Chase.

RememberLu · Post #118 » by **RememberLu** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:33 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:
Chi town wrote:Watched the Nagy and Mitch pressers...

Pretty obvious that Nagy is blaming Mitch and doesn’t believe in him. Makes me wonder if Nagy has believed that he could coach him and no long does. Or he’s so in over his head he doesn’t know what’s going on.

How did you come away with that?

Nagy's been coaching that way all season. Whether it's passing or running the ball, the gameplan is created to not make Trubisky think or do too much.

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It's a bad sign when a coach is so willing to throw players under the bus. Nagy may be in preservation mode but arguably he's been as bad as Mitch this season, if not worse. It all started with that decision to not play the starters in preseason. He bought his own hype and it's all been downhill for him from there

Post #119 » by **fleet** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:25 pm

RememberLu wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:How did you come away with that?

Nagy's been coaching that way all season. Whether it's passing or running the ball, the gameplan is created to not make Trubisky think or do too much.

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It's a bad sign when a coach is so willing to throw players under the bus. Nagy may be in preservation mode but arguably he's been as bad as Mitch this season, if not worse. It all started with that decision to not play the starters in preseason. He bought his own hype and it's all been downhill for him from there

He has been so stubborn, it almost indicates that he thought his system made the Chiefs what they are, not the players. He has to wake up and coach the Bears.

Jeffster81 · Post #120 » by **Jeffster81** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:19 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:Right now, Chicago sports is in a very depressing state. Cubs season was a major meltdown, let down, implosion. Blackhawks are not looking good. The Bears are a major disappointment so far after giving us a great deal of hope last season. Bulls may not be quite as far along in their "rebuild" as we all had hoped, but it's too early to know. Nevertheless, we still have the same power structure in place that has really been disappointing over the last decade and a half and we're likely stuck with them for the foreseeable future. White Sox are terrible, also. Every major sports team in the city is seemingly an underachieving entity at this point in time, relative to expectations.

At least the Chicago Sky made the second rd of the WNBA playoffs and the Chicago Red Stars made the NWSL championship gam e, though they got their asses handed to them by North Carolina this afternoon.

Who? ... and Who?

I am trying to find some positive in Chicago pro sports, damn it.