Pick retention tracking thread

CobyWhite0 · Post #101 » by **CobyWhite0** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:54 pm

sco wrote:
kodo wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:So what exactly needs to happen in order for us to make the play-in? We win out and Wizards lose out?

Bulls wins over Brooklyn & Milwaukee.
Wizard losses to Cleveland & Charlotte.

What does that parlay pay out?

The Cavs' are +360 on the money line tonight, that's a pretty good start.

kodo · Post #102 » by **kodo** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:08 pm

Almost impossible for WAS to lose, Cavs are sitting Garland, Love, and even Cedi.
That Boston win was purely because of Love who won't play. They would need like 30 from Okoro.

But then again it felt like we could have lost to Toronto's bench if we didn't have such a hot shooting night so who knows. Maybe Dotson goes all Stanley Johnson on them.

CobyWhite0 · Post #103 » by **CobyWhite0** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:16 pm

kodo wrote:Almost impossible for WAS to lose, Cavs are sitting Garland, Love, and even Cedi.
That Boston win was purely because of Love who won't play. They would need like 30 from Okoro.

But then again it felt like we could have lost to Toronto's bench if we didn't have such a hot shooting night so who knows. Maybe Dotson goes all Stanley Johnson on them.

The Cavs have 3 chances of winning tonight:

Russ sprains his ankle in pre-game warmups and can't go

Russ gets caught in traffic and can't make it to the arena

Russ tests positive for Covid this afternoon

kodo · Post #104 » by **kodo** » Sat May 15, 2021 1:45 am

So with the Bulls out of the play-in, we're either 8th or 9th.
There's a weirdly large drop in getting a top 4 pick between 8th/9th, 9.0%.
It would make a lot of sense to sit Lavine for the last 2 games.

CHI 30-40 chance top 4: 26.3%
NOP 31-39 chance top 4: 17.3%

Most likely it's meaningless and the pick goes to ORL.

Wingy · Post #105 » by **Wingy** » Sat May 15, 2021 1:54 am

kodo wrote:So with the Bulls out of the play-in, we're either 8th or 9th.
There's a weirdly large drop in getting a top 4 pick between 8th/9th, 9.0%.
It would make a lot of sense to sit Lavine for the last 2 games.

CHI 30-40 chance top 4: 26.3%
NOP 31-39 chance top 4: 17.3%

Most likely it's meaningless and the pick goes to ORL.

We’ll win a meaningless game Sunday, then split the 8-10 balls between us, NO, and Sacto. It’ll be classic Bulls. Take it to the bank.

Am2626 · Post #106 » by **Am2626** » Sat May 15, 2021 2:12 am

kodo wrote:So with the Bulls out of the play-in, we're either 8th or 9th.
There's a weirdly large drop in getting a top 4 pick between 8th/9th, 9.0%.
It would make a lot of sense to sit Lavine for the last 2 games.

CHI 30-40 chance top 4: 26.3%
NOP 31-39 chance top 4: 17.3%

Most likely it's meaningless and the pick goes to ORL.

Unfortunately the Bulls can still fall all the way down to 10 as Sacramento is also 31-39. The Bulls have nothing to play for so hopefully they will not try to win these last 2 games.

Southpaw · Post #107 » by **Southpaw** » Sat May 15, 2021 3:54 am

I'm hoping we made a secret deal with Silver to rig the draft for us to keep the pick hahahaha. Keeping and hitting on our pick this year would be a huge boost to our team's future success.

kodo · Post #108 » by **kodo** » Sat May 15, 2021 6:23 pm

Lavine is sitting with an "injury." I assume he's done for the season.

Wingy · Post #109 » by **Wingy** » Sat May 15, 2021 6:44 pm

kodo wrote:Lavine is sitting with an "injury." I assume he's done for the season.

Yes, please. Vuc’s hip is flaring up again, I can see a limp!!

Andi Obst · Post #110 » by **Andi Obst** » Sat May 15, 2021 8:07 pm

Wingy wrote:
kodo wrote:Lavine is sitting with an "injury." I assume he's done for the season.

Yes, please. Vuc’s hip is flaring up again, I can see a limp!!

As long as Vuc is playing at the same level as today we’re fine.

Wingy · Post #111 » by **Wingy** » Mon May 17, 2021 3:24 am

Wingy wrote:Sucks. We’re gonna end up in a 3-way tie for 8th. Kings/Pels have nothing to play for, and have opponents who do.

Meanwhile, we’ll lose to Nets, but then Milwaukee will sit everyone for their last game. They’ll see the Nets will be blowing out the Cavs before our game even starts, and have nothing to play for.

We’ll get the final slap in the face win to lower our odds even more.

Called it in the wee hours of Friday. Bulls always gonna Bulls.

Sell this $@&#ing team to an ownership group that gets it.

JimmyButler21 · Post #112 » by **JimmyButler21** » Mon May 17, 2021 3:31 am

They should have been tanking way before tonight. They were never making the playoffs and keeping the pick was far more important. Now they're gonna miss a 20 team playoffs when the East was trash and hand over a top 10 pick.

Am2626 · Post #113 » by **Am2626** » Mon May 17, 2021 3:31 am

Wingy wrote:
Wingy wrote:Sucks. We’re gonna end up in a 3-way tie for 8th. Kings/Pels have nothing to play for, and have opponents who do.

Meanwhile, we’ll lose to Nets, but then Milwaukee will sit everyone for their last game. They’ll see the Nets will be blowing out the Cavs before our game even starts, and have nothing to play for.

We’ll get the final slap in the face win to lower our odds even more.

Called it in the wee hours of Friday. Bulls always gonna Bulls.

Sell this $@&#ing team to an ownership group that gets it.

What’s incredibly frustrating is the Bucks basically sit their top 7 players and the Bulls rely on vets in Thad and Temple to pull out a win that lowers their chances at keeping their pick. If Sacramento or the Pelicans end up moving up at the expense of the Bulls I’m done with this team.

JimmyButler21 · Post #114 » by **JimmyButler21** » Mon May 17, 2021 3:35 am

Am2626 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
Wingy wrote:Sucks. We’re gonna end up in a 3-way tie for 8th. Kings/Pels have nothing to play for, and have opponents who do.

Meanwhile, we’ll lose to Nets, but then Milwaukee will sit everyone for their last game. They’ll see the Nets will be blowing out the Cavs before our game even starts, and have nothing to play for.

We’ll get the final slap in the face win to lower our odds even more.

Called it in the wee hours of Friday. Bulls always gonna Bulls.

Sell this $@&#ing team to an ownership group that gets it.

What’s incredibly frustrating is the Bucks basically sit their top 7 players and the Bulls rely on vets in Thad and Temple to pull out a win that lowers their chances at keeping their pick. If Sacramento or the Pelicans end up moving up at the expense of the Bulls I’m done with this team.

I still would have been angry had Patrick Williams scored 30 and they won, but that would have at least been something to look forward to for the future.

Am2626 · Post #115 » by **Am2626** » Mon May 17, 2021 3:48 am

JimmyButler21 wrote:
Am2626 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
Called it in the wee hours of Friday. Bulls always gonna Bulls.

Sell this $@&#ing team to an ownership group that gets it.

What’s incredibly frustrating is the Bucks basically sit their top 7 players and the Bulls rely on vets in Thad and Temple to pull out a win that lowers their chances at keeping their pick. If Sacramento or the Pelicans end up moving up at the expense of the Bulls I’m done with this team.

I still would have been angry had Patrick Williams scored 30 and they won, but that would have at least been something to look forward to for the future.

Yes exactly. What are the Bulls thinking playing Thad and Temple to close out this game? It’s almost like they just want a semi competitive team. This is an organizational problem going straight up to the Bulls ownership.

KirkHinrich12 · Post #116 » by **KirkHinrich12** » Mon May 17, 2021 4:16 am

Classic Bulls. Truly a disaster.

CobyWhite0 · Post #117 » by **CobyWhite0** » Mon May 17, 2021 4:20 am

Anyone who is a fan of intentionally losing games should become a Sixers fan.

They built their current franchise around intentionally losing for multiple seasons, so far it's gotten them not a single GD thing.

Maybe Houston and Oklahoma City, you can see lots of losses there.

BTW, tonight's Bulls roster:

Mr Patrick Williams -2
Lauri -11
Thad +5
Temple -7
Coby -9
Felicio +5
Dotson +13
Val +9
Green +12
Arch +15

Common sense should tell anyone that the scrubs would be trying 10x as hard as the regular rotation guys tonight, and the +/- points that out. Blatantly.

Lauri and Temple and Coby certainly seemed to be "tanking", but the bench players screwed it all up.

Have fun, everyone. I'll be back after the draft lottery.

Wingy · Post #118 » by **Wingy** » Mon May 17, 2021 4:22 am

So we shaved 6% off our chances with that brilliant win.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/how-bulls-win-end-regular-season-hurt-nba-draft-lottery-odds?amp

DYK? The Bulls also founded Mensa.

KirkHinrich12 · Post #119 » by **KirkHinrich12** » Mon May 17, 2021 4:24 am

It’s almost as if they wanted to feel better about giving up a pick that was less valuable than actually trying to move up and do something to improve this team.

The Vuc trade was a disaster. After 1 year of this experiment, I unbelievably think GarPax is a better option. Well maybe not Gar, but at least Pax.

Wingy · Post #120 » by **Wingy** » Mon May 17, 2021 4:54 am

KirkHinrich12 wrote:It’s almost as if they wanted to feel better about giving up a pick that was less valuable than actually trying to move up and do something to improve this team.

The Vuc trade was a disaster. After 1 year of this experiment, I unbelievably think GarPax is a better option. Well maybe not Gar, but at least Pax.

You realize Pax is still a senior advisor, right? I don’t think the Vuc trade is a disaster, but if you do - remember Pax could’ve been egging AK on to go for it.