How much time does AK have?

[cocktailswith_2short]

Giddey trade was good . Hes going to play a lot of bulls games in his career . Caruso was over valued .

[Chi town]

If AK can trade Coby for a 1st and expirings and Vuc for expirings and 2nds he will have restored enough trust to have me interested in a proper rebuild.

GET IT DONE!!!

[DuckIII]

If AK can trade Coby for a 1st and expirings and Vuc for expirings and 2nds he will have restored enough trust to have me interested in a proper rebuild.

GET IT DONE!!!

It’s always a nice reminder on trade deadline day that a minimum of two teams have to agree to a trade.

He’s obviously finally trying. We’ll see what happens and what the reports are.

[Adriano]

Like Duck said, If you are not open to change opinions in your life, you're on the wrong path himself.

I think even Gar Forman from 2011 to 2019 was better than AK till this day, and Gar was awful those years. But, so far, aside of the Ayo and Ball extensions, every other move was wrong or is questionable. I dont even count the dumb movies (and lack of) from 2021 till 2023, lets just talk about the moves he made this season:

Traded Caruso for Giddey - Yes, Giddey is a good who could become an elite role player (like Lonzo), but, we have to consider that Giddey is in the last year of his contract and already said to the press that he will not sign for less than 30 M/year. Of course, when you signed Lonzo for 10 M/year before the season ended, you may send a massage for Giddey. But, in this league, are teams with capspace and willing to bet on Giddey. 30 M/y in the new CBA is nothing from other world, but, If we, with our cap space, give this type of contract to him, we lose some flexibility, like Gar loved to say. And I dont think Giddey is the right gamble for this type of money in this team, since we have Lonzo, Ayo, Coby (in the right situation he has the ball handle to play PG) and Tre Young who is the only guy we received for Zach who is solid in the present. Honestly, If he continues to be a solid backup, I will prefer him over Giddey, for cap space porpouses, in the next season. Either case, if its true that two 1sts was oferred for Caruso, AK only made the right choice If Giddey sign for 20 M. If he walks or sign for 30M+, we can add as a one more mistake in the account of AK.

Let DDR walk for SAC - He played well for us and was important inside and outside the court. That said, give to SAS such a 1st round pick, with three chances of convey to them (one year top 10 protect and two years top 8 protect before become 2nds is a lot for a guy who is going to be a UFA). He should play hardball with SAS, and maybe the consequence today will be that we still have Zach LaVine on the roster. He was dumb in give such a return for a team that not even wanted to continue with his services then and, I repeat and insist, was an UFA. That was the most underrated dumbest move he made so far.

The extension of Patrick Williams - The guy show almost nothing and, even be given a Pippen type contract, cause 5/90 is a bargain and make him tradable even if he continues to bust, for the flexibility (I'm not Gar Forman, I swear) sakes, I'd just rather to let him walk and use the money to increase our cap in futures FA's.

Staying pat with Vucevic - He is having one of the best seasons of his carrer, by far the better as a Bull, and even so, he doesnt been reported to received offers from other teams with an acceptable return. He already said that he plans to play two more years, his contract is 20 M/y and expiring next season. If he is willing to play for us for the vet min after this contract, I think was the right call stick with him. If not, than is better one or two 2nd rounders than nothing. But the real problem with Vucevic is the first picks we give for him few years ago. That hurt us alot and was the biggest mistake AK made so far.

Zach LaVine trade - Okay, he is not a superstar, he will never be able to be the best player on a contender team, he is in a max contract and is not the rolemodel of durability. That said, he matures his game this season and was playing the best basketball of his life, still is 28 years old and was traded to clear the mess that AK himself created to acquire, I repeat, an UFA DDR. So, in the end of the day, AK traded him to save his own face and maybe try to save his job. When even the coach said that doesnt have a clue what direction the FO is choising after a trade, in other words, I think even him dislike the trade.
Acquire our protects first back and relief the CAP would be a good return if was not AK himself who gives away those firsts and gives the max to him in the first place, instead of trade him when he is younger, with one surgery less in the knee and has more value in the league. If the Bulls land a top 3 pick this year or the next, I surely would prefer to see the stud playing with him, and if we use the CAP relief to sign Giddey's type of players, we give him for nothing. And, If not elite, he is a borderline all star and could be a great second or third best player in a team who got lucky in the draft and developed Matas into a great player.
Either way, even if we doesnt get a top 3 pick in the next years, even if we eventually lose our pick to SAS, It was an awful trade, because one big mistake (the DDR trade) can not justify that move.

Draft Matas Buzelis - Aside from Ayo the only right choice in the draft by AK. And the only one who can become someone special in this league. The best move so far by AK in the Bulls FO.

So, with all that said, I think the only way he can change my opinion about him is, with the cap relief of Zach, sign with someone better than Zach in FA. If this not happens, I think he should be fired and banned from the town.

[Dez]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

[Adriano]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

Giddey seems to have eyes on big money in his next contract although the Bulls might not be too keen to commit already.

According to Jake Fischer on Threads, Giddey is said to be seeking at least $30 million in AAV in his next deal, as per sources. The Bulls appear more keen on evaluating him through this first season in Chicago before committing that type of money to the Australian playmaker.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

[dougthonus]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

Giddey seems to have eyes on big money in his next contract although the Bulls might not be too keen to commit already.

According to Jake Fischer on Threads, Giddey is said to be seeking at least $30 million in AAV in his next deal, as per sources. The Bulls appear more keen on evaluating him through this first season in Chicago before committing that type of money to the Australian playmaker.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

It's a lot of semantics, but yes, he was definitely seeking that much. He may not have signed an extension for less than that because it was simply not worth it to him, if he had a good season, he might have been a max guy. However, I wouldn't expect he's stuck on that number this off-season.

He needs a new deal this off-season and will sign what the market will bare. I hope force him to get an offer sheet or offer him something in the mid teens.

[Adriano]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

Giddey seems to have eyes on big money in his next contract although the Bulls might not be too keen to commit already.

According to Jake Fischer on Threads, Giddey is said to be seeking at least $30 million in AAV in his next deal, as per sources. The Bulls appear more keen on evaluating him through this first season in Chicago before committing that type of money to the Australian playmaker.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

It's a lot of semantics, but yes, he was definitely seeking that much. He may not have signed an extension for less than that because it was simply not worth it to him, if he had a good season, he might have been a max guy. However, I wouldn't expect he's stuck on that number this off-season.

He needs a new deal this off-season and will sign what the market will bare. I hope force him to get an offer sheet or offer him something in the mid teens.

I can only hope that AK dont overpay Giddey just to not admit that he made a mistake in the Caruso deal. Especially if its true the offer of the two 1st rounds for him.

[Dez]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

Giddey seems to have eyes on big money in his next contract although the Bulls might not be too keen to commit already.

According to Jake Fischer on Threads, Giddey is said to be seeking at least $30 million in AAV in his next deal, as per sources. The Bulls appear more keen on evaluating him through this first season in Chicago before committing that type of money to the Australian playmaker.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

Seeking 30M and not signing for less than 30M are vastly different things.

[prolific passer]

With JR. He has all the time in the world.

[Adriano]

Giddey didn't say he wouldn't sign for less than 30M, that's just straight up lying.

Giddey seems to have eyes on big money in his next contract although the Bulls might not be too keen to commit already.

According to Jake Fischer on Threads, Giddey is said to be seeking at least $30 million in AAV in his next deal, as per sources. The Bulls appear more keen on evaluating him through this first season in Chicago before committing that type of money to the Australian playmaker.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

Seeking 30M and not signing for less than 30M are vastly different things.

"Seeking 30 M" and "seeking AT LEAST 30 M" actually is what really is vastly different things.

[Dez]

https://athlonsports.com/nba/bulls-news/chicago-bulls-stance-josh-giddey-30-million-per-year-contract

There are very other sources reporting the same thing in the begginning of the season.

Seeking 30M and not signing for less than 30M are vastly different things.

"Seeking 30 M" and "seeking AT LEAST 30 M" actually is what really is vastly different things.

Not as different as saying he won't sign for less than 30M (he didn't) or seeking 30M+.

[Adriano]

Seeking 30M and not signing for less than 30M are vastly different things.

"Seeking 30 M" and "seeking AT LEAST 30 M" actually is what really is vastly different things.

Not as different as saying he won't sign for less than 30M (he didn't) or seeking 30M+.

Things like that doesnt usually come directly from the players, come from his staff (i.e his agent). So the reporter have no opportunity to ask "But do you accept sign for less than this if is to play for a contender?", for example. But when a guy arrive to a new team and imediatly his agent say something like that is never a good sign. Vucevic staff, who was still considering a borderline all star when come here, never reported said something like that, for instance.

I think you dont get my point. Maybe we agree that Giddey not worth such a money, but my point is that we doesnt have a FO who, historically, admit his mistakes or let his players sign offers sheets, like the previous one did with LaVine and end up sign him for 19 M at the time. AK does not play hardball with anyone, players or other executives. I hope Giddey became the first to see this side of AK.

[eierluke]

I don't understand this conversation here around Giddey?

It is not as if we're on the verge of losing Wemba for nothing. It it is Giddey a potential mediocre starter in the future. I don't fear losing him for nothing and we don't have to, why not just letting the market say what he's worth and we can match it or let him leave?

[sco]

I don't understand this conversation here around Giddey?

It is not as if we're on the verge of losing Wemba for nothing. It it is Giddey a potential mediocre starter in the future. I don't fear losing him for nothing and we don't have to, why not just letting the market say what he's worth and we can match it or let him leave?

I have overused this analogy but the problem with the Bulls is that talent-wise our talent amounts to the woman still in the bar at 3am. We here are debating between the one with the unibrow and the one missing front teeth. We don't have good players on the the team to provide a standard as to what's good, so we agonize over the flawed many. At least at 3am in the bar, the people talking have the excuse of being drunk...what's ours?

[Chi town]

If AK can trade Coby for a 1st and expirings and Vuc for expirings and 2nds he will have restored enough trust to have me interested in a proper rebuild.

GET IT DONE!!!

AK is the Patrick Williams of GMs.

Leaving so much to be desired.

All we can hope for is luck. That’s what Buz at 11 was. Need more of that!

[PJSteven22]

Giddey trade was good . Hes going to play a lot of bulls games in his career . Caruso was over valued .

lol are you sure about that. The only guy that has a good future here is Buzelis

[cocktailswith_2short]

Yeah it's looking pretty grim . I hope we have a new GM making our pick in the summer I really do .

[Chi town]

Folks, I think AK has actually done it… despite his best efforts.

We are AWFUL! Huerter and Jones makes us far worse. Vuc is so checked out he’s even worse.

We look Wizards level bad. We are going to barely win 5-6 more games. Sixers Nets Raps should all catch us.

Hilarious AK thought Huerter and Jones would get us into the play in.

[Chi town]

There is also no conceivable way we are any better next season. No cap to sign anyone that makes us that much better.

We are legit tanking despite AK’s best efforts to get to the play in.

We are looking like a real bottoming out. This and next draft.