Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? Update page 4: Beal rejects us

[RSP83]

As has been the theme for several years now, we need to define what direction this team is going in. If it's finally embracing the rebuild, then get those 4 picks and workout a buyout for Beal. We've eaten big contracts in the past. Beal's is by far the biggest, but it doesn't really matter if we are ok being purposely bad while we accumulate picks and develop the younger players.

My issue is with AK at the helm. He's really bad at doing his job. He's bad at either tanking and building a fringe playoff team. AK probably has the worst feel for the team among all GM and any GM that has come through this franchise.

[WesPeace]

As has been the theme for several years now, we need to define what direction this team is going in. If it's finally embracing the rebuild, then get those 4 picks and workout a buyout for Beal. We've eaten big contracts in the past. Beal's is by far the biggest, but it doesn't really matter if we are ok being purposely bad while we accumulate picks and develop the younger players.

I would be on board with that, IF we buyout Beal..
What would be the cost for doing buyout,would cheap Reinsdorf do that?

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As has been the theme for several years now, we need to define what direction this team is going in. If it's finally embracing the rebuild, then get those 4 picks and workout a buyout for Beal. We've eaten big contracts in the past. Beal's is by far the biggest, but it doesn't really matter if we are ok being purposely bad while we accumulate picks and develop the younger players.

This is AK we're talking about... he'll waste this season, lose our pick and then also probably trade for Beal for only 2 picks in return as the well dries up. He's never been about valuing picks or maximising our assets. My next hope is if we do we go down this route, we also get new management. Because we're in for a long rebuild otherwise... (luck notwithstanding).

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As has been the theme for several years now, we need to define what direction this team is going in. If it's finally embracing the rebuild, then get those 4 picks and workout a buyout for Beal. We've eaten big contracts in the past. Beal's is by far the biggest, but it doesn't really matter if we are ok being purposely bad while we accumulate picks and develop the younger players.

I would be on board with that, IF we buyout Beal..
What would be the cost for doing buyout,would cheap Reinsdorf do that?

Spotrac says 2 years, $110M not including this season. Minus whatever he signs for with his new team too.

Ever since Michael took charge, the purse strings loosened a bit... that being said, that'll be hard for the minority owners to swallow..

[TheGOATRises007]

The fact that Beal has a NTC is hilarious.

He's become a net negative player out there and he can dictate where he can go. Hilarious.

[WesPeace]

As has been the theme for several years now, we need to define what direction this team is going in. If it's finally embracing the rebuild, then get those 4 picks and workout a buyout for Beal. We've eaten big contracts in the past. Beal's is by far the biggest, but it doesn't really matter if we are ok being purposely bad while we accumulate picks and develop the younger players.

I would be on board with that, IF we buyout Beal..
What would be the cost for doing buyout,would cheap Reinsdorf do that?

Spotrac says 2 years, $110M not including this season. Minus whatever he signs for with his new team too.

Ever since Michael took charge, the purse strings loosened a bit... that being said, that'll be hard for the minority owners to swallow..

yeah, too much.. Thanx god, if true,that Beal actually really declined any deal to Bulls! Because I dont trust AKME 1%

[dougthonus]

Spotrac says 2 years, $110M not including this season. Minus whatever he signs for with his new team too.

Ever since Michael took charge, the purse strings loosened a bit... that being said, that'll be hard for the minority owners to swallow..

If you dump Carter in the deal, you're paying 8M more than you would have paid to LaVine + Carter. You might be able to negotiate with Beal to give up a little bit of his money, dude's getting 110M and can probably make more than the vet min on his next deal by a bit if he gains immediate release AND pick wherever he wants to go. Say he's willing to give you back the TMLE worth of money which he can probably get back and break even while picking any destination he wants. That's a better deal for him than his current situation.

Bulls now break even on cash on the deal and rea really only losing the court value / marketing power of LaVine, but if you're going to be bad, you probably just don't care about that for two years.

It isn't real money, because you aren't going to pay out any extra money, and the NBA vet minimum requires you have this much salary anyway, so it still sits on your books.

The real question simply becomes are you willing to rebuild for two years after this one via the draft and being really bad or not. The Bulls have been answering that question with "no" for a long time, so this requires you change that answer to "yes". I'm not even saying it's the right choice to do that necessarily, there are lots of reasons you might not want to do that, but if your answer to that question is "yes" then buying out Beal is completely irrelevant from a financial standpoint.

[MisterRoy]

He ain't giving up a dime of $110M. Why should he and who would?

We don't want to touch that contract.

[FriedRise]

Getting rejected by a bench guy is crazy.

[Andi Obst]

In theory, I like Doug's idea of trading for Beal just to take the assets (has to be multiple firsts) and buy him out immediately. Now I don't see this happening at all, but that would be the ultimate tank move. I have zero interest in watching Bradley Beal play in a bulls uniform.

[Axl Rose]

Beal having a NTC on top of a supermax is crazy work to begin with. Kudos to his agent. I'm not too broke up or offended that he rejected a trade here and I think the idea of buying him out was unrealistic.

We could have used the 1sts though, damn.

[MisterRoy]

Paying over $110M to Beal for a few first round picks doesn't seem like a prudent move. Our involvement in this deal makes zero sense.

[ChettheJet]

A BIG Thank You to Mr. Bradley Beal from Bulls fans everywhere for rejecting the Chicago Bulls as your destination. You never did anything good for the Bulls or their fans but I think putting up a plaque at a concession stand at the UC would be a tribute to you for not sticking the Bulls with your contract

[HomoSapien]

He ain't giving up a dime of $110M. Why should he and who would?

We don't want to touch that contract.

Because he can make that money back while being able to pick the exact team he wants to go to.

[CROBulls]

Love this. Bulls should be ashamed that bench players dont wanna play in Chicago. Hope this is a wake up call for Reinsdorfs

[SirKaiser]

Lmao thank God he rejected us. We can do better than that, even if it's doing nothing at all.

[drosestruts]

I've always found it wild that these players dislike cold weather cities so much.

LA is on fire, and players are like "yeah give me that"

As a millionaire, if you wanted to, you'd never have to spend more than 30 seconds outside at any given time. Are these players that much of outdoor enthusiasts?

[Red8911]

I've always found it wild that these players dislike cold weather cities so much.

LA is on fire, and players are like "yeah give me that"

As a millionaire, if you wanted to, you'd never have to spend more than 30 seconds outside at any given time. Are these players that much of outdoor enthusiasts?

Exactly using cold weather as an excuse is bs. First of all basketball isn’t played outdoors, his work is inside where it’s nice and warm.

Then they travel all the time anyway, half the games home half away traveling the country. After around June they are free until September to be wherever the hell they want.

Besides professional basketball players don’t play in the NBA for their whole lives, most are done by mid 30s.Thats why makes no sense why these players car so much about hot weather when it’s just temporary.

[weneeda2guard]

The bulls picked their direction 4 years ago when they brought in DeRozan caruso ball and Vuc.

This league is different and trades are not what they used to be. If they were then Ingram Butler Ben Simmons etc would all be gone right now. Teams are running from that 2nd apron and tax hit. Right now a lot of teams are just stuck with what they got. And we are in that same boat due to salary and owners not wanting to get hit with those penalties. So after the deadline and few moves are made bulls fans are going to be all over the Internet crying about why things were not done and not realizing minimal movement will be made by most the teams. If deals could just get done jimmy Butler would be gone last week. Nobody wants to take on the money and the picks available not worth spending millions for.

[jnrjr79]

I've always found it wild that these players dislike cold weather cities so much.

LA is on fire, and players are like "yeah give me that"

As a millionaire, if you wanted to, you'd never have to spend more than 30 seconds outside at any given time. Are these players that much of outdoor enthusiasts?

Exactly using cold weather as an excuse is bs. First of all basketball isn’t played outdoors, his work is inside where it’s nice and warm.

Then they travel all the time anyway, half the games home half away traveling the country. After around June they are free until September to be wherever the hell they want.

Besides professional basketball players don’t play in the NBA for their whole lives, most are done by mid 30s.Thats why makes no sense why these players car so much about hot weather when it’s just temporary.

Most people work indoors yet prefer warm climates. Have you looked at the past couple of decades of US migration patterns?

Trying to deny that people prefer nice weather is really something.