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TheGOATRises007 wrote:AKME are lucky one Nico Harrison exists to take the shine away from their failures.
They should be getting blasted by the national media.
Dan Z wrote:"There's more to come," Karnisovas said at a news conference after Thursday's trade deadline. "We're committing to building a sustainable, competitive team. We're not OK with being in the middle. Curating a team that competes at the high level and can compete for a championship has been our goal."
And..."We might get a high draft pick or we might be in the play-in, we might be in the playoffs," he said. "I think I was saying that if this young nucleus can get you to play in the playoffs, I think it's going to be growth in terms of your young players and development. That's worth it for me."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43724975/arturas-karnisovas-says-bulls-transition-more-come
kulaz3000 wrote:Bulliever2020 wrote:Unless we get extremely lucky in the lotto I'd be willing to bet AK goes his entire tenure without a playoff series win.
Even if we had lottery luck, I have zero confidence they select the right player.
Chi town wrote:AK is the Patrick Williams of GMs
ShouldaPaidBG wrote:My positive spin is it was an absolute miracle to get rid of Zach with no long term salary coming back. That's enough for me. I wish Vuc was never given his contract or traded for, but I'm not surprised tha basically nobody wanted to trade for him. I'm not really mad about that.
I think they were thinking of trading Coby then saw how bad our offense was last game without Coby.
Dominator83 wrote:Dan Z wrote:"There's more to come," Karnisovas said at a news conference after Thursday's trade deadline. "We're committing to building a sustainable, competitive team. We're not OK with being in the middle. Curating a team that competes at the high level and can compete for a championship has been our goal."
And..."We might get a high draft pick or we might be in the play-in, we might be in the playoffs," he said. "I think I was saying that if this young nucleus can get you to play in the playoffs, I think it's going to be growth in terms of your young players and development. That's worth it for me."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43724975/arturas-karnisovas-says-bulls-transition-more-come
We don't even compete for mid-season cups, let alone The Larry O'Brien
And at this point, I would honestly be stoked with a mid-season cup! We're never even in the thick of the hunt for those either.
drosestruts wrote:Dan Z wrote:drosestruts wrote:
We're one of the youngest teams in the league. The direction is pretty clear.
Do you think it's a good direction? How many of the teams young players project to have all-star level ability (or close)?
Right now the team is stuck in mediocrity and I don't see them getting out any time soon.
I don't like the direction - but not in the way you mean. I probably would have kept Zach, packaged young guys (Coby, Williams, and Carter) for undervalued vets and picks - like trading for like Julius Randle, 2025 Detroit pick, and Terrence Shannon Jr or something.
You guys would hate me as the GM. I'm gonna eat undervalued, expensive, playable vets and picks all day everyday. You're attached a 1st along with Marcus Smart? Sign me up!
To answer your other questions:
Players I could see making an all-star game at some point in their career: Coby White, Josh Giddey, Ayo Dosunmu, Matas Buzelis, Jalen Smith.
Coby white - a year removed from coming in 2nd in MIP voting. Progress isn't linear. Coby has been worse this year. Could be better in the future.
Josh Giddey - fills up the stat sheet. Shooting and defense have improved throughout the year this season and year to year throughout his career.
Ayo - I'm still an Ayo believer. Great finisher around the rim (one of the best guards in the league scoring at the rim) with an emerging 3-point shot and offensive game.
Matas - I think we all see the potential here.
Jalen Smith - averages something like 20 and 13 per 36 minutes. Let's take the leash off and see what he's got. Still only 24, has bounced around in his early career always seeming to be behind somebody in the pecking order - Ayton, Turner, now Vuc. Situation and opportunity are the sometimes the biggest obstacles to success. It'd be a shame if we don't give him a proper opportunity.
And for you non Dan Z poster. Don't come talking to me about how our young guys have no all-star potential and then telling me you like the potential of Washingtons young guys. Get real.
You like Alex Sarr's putrid 39% FG%
Oh look, Bub Carrington also shoots 39% from the field.
You see great potential in these guys but can't see potential in our players than you're just a hater.
GoBlue72391 wrote:TheGOATRises007 wrote:AKME are lucky one Nico Harrison exists to take the shine away from their failures.
They should be getting blasted by the national media.
The national media doesn't give a rat's ass lol. We're utterly irrelevant outside of Chicago.
burlydee wrote:2weekswithpay wrote:burlydee wrote:
I hear this a lot. Do ppl think Washington and Brooklyn are in better spots?
Yes. Washington is going to land a top 5 pick. They've given themselves the best possible odds at getting Cooper Flagg. Even if they don't get the number 1 overall pick, Harper, Bailey, Edgecombe, and even Jakucionis would all be great additions. They've amassed a lot of assets and draft capital.
The Wizards have 4 players picked in the 2024 draft's first round on their roster right now. They have 2 FRPs in 2025 and 2026.
The Nets have 4 FRPs in the 2025 draft. 3 more FRPs coming from the Knicks and 1 from the Sixers. They still haven't traded Cam Johnson or Claxton and both could bring more picks or young players. They'll have the most cap space in the summer which they could use to get talent or more assets.
Wiz have a 52% chance of landing top 4 pick. Bulls have 26%. Given there is almost no talent on that roster and the fact pick 8 has a decent chance to be better than 4, I think we're in the better position.
Bulls have a mix of young rotation players. Matas only guy with star potential. Bulls wasted too much time chasing mediocre vets. But they have tradeable pieces. Just have to look for advantageous deals.
2weekswithpay wrote:burlydee wrote:2weekswithpay wrote:
Yes. Washington is going to land a top 5 pick. They've given themselves the best possible odds at getting Cooper Flagg. Even if they don't get the number 1 overall pick, Harper, Bailey, Edgecombe, and even Jakucionis would all be great additions. They've amassed a lot of assets and draft capital.
The Wizards have 4 players picked in the 2024 draft's first round on their roster right now. They have 2 FRPs in 2025 and 2026.
The Nets have 4 FRPs in the 2025 draft. 3 more FRPs coming from the Knicks and 1 from the Sixers. They still haven't traded Cam Johnson or Claxton and both could bring more picks or young players. They'll have the most cap space in the summer which they could use to get talent or more assets.
Wiz have a 52% chance of landing top 4 pick. Bulls have 26%. Given there is almost no talent on that roster and the fact pick 8 has a decent chance to be better than 4, I think we're in the better position.
Bulls have a mix of young rotation players. Matas only guy with star potential. Bulls wasted too much time chasing mediocre vets. But they have tradeable pieces. Just have to look for advantageous deals.
It's not just a top 5 pick, the Wizards have so many opportunities to add talent to their roster over the next 2-3 seasons. The Bulls are a below average team despite playing in a weak conference, while also being in the negative in draft capital.
WindyCityBorn wrote:Without superstars your team is going nowhere. Bulls seem to have no interest in ever getting young superstar again
Cope on Matas all you want. If he the best we will get it’s already over. Our only hope is to luck into a top 4 pick this year.
Evil_Headband wrote:I'm not mad.
I also didn't expect them to blow it up despite what the Internet was saying. AK got the job in the first place by selling an anti-tanking philosophy and has stuck to that. No surprise.
The Bulls have put themselves in a good situation next year. They should have over $80 million in expiring contracts, all their first rounders, and a few nice young players. They could use that to trade for a star player or two if if the opportunities present themselves.
I don't think the Hinkie model is the necessary model in team building. AK is right in that regard.
I also have another confession to make. I like watching this team. I enjoy rooting for, in particular, Coby and Ayo and Lonzo and suddenly now Matas. I can tolerate most of the others. I also like listening to Billy talk and explain basketball from his perspective.
burlydee wrote:2weekswithpay wrote:burlydee wrote:
Wiz have a 52% chance of landing top 4 pick. Bulls have 26%. Given there is almost no talent on that roster and the fact pick 8 has a decent chance to be better than 4, I think we're in the better position.
Bulls have a mix of young rotation players. Matas only guy with star potential. Bulls wasted too much time chasing mediocre vets. But they have tradeable pieces. Just have to look for advantageous deals.
It's not just a top 5 pick, the Wizards have so many opportunities to add talent to their roster over the next 2-3 seasons. The Bulls are a below average team despite playing in a weak conference, while also being in the negative in draft capital.
What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?
kulaz3000 wrote:Bulliever2020 wrote:Unless we get extremely lucky in the lotto I'd be willing to bet AK goes his entire tenure without a playoff series win.
Even if we had lottery luck, I have zero confidence they select the right player.