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2025 Draft prospects - thread 3

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#101 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:18 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
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Think he goes 8 to BKN.

Dude is 6’11 in shoes and could still be growing.

He has great hands. Unlike Pat. His hands are like Velcro. Catches everything.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#102 » by sco » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:20 pm

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If I'm choosing between him and Demin, I choose him all day long (despite not liking have to learn how to spell his name).

He's the right type of guy to force the Bulls to play Matas at the 3 (which I think he can excel at although they will largely switchable on defense).
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#103 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:22 pm

drosestruts wrote:Did we already comment on Beringer's official measurements coming out?

6'11" barefoot, 234 pounds, 7'4.5" wingspan, and a 9'3" standing reach

If you like athletic centers chances are you like Beringer.

I've been a fan at times during the lead up to the draft. His ability to run the floor and be a vertical spacer would be a new addition to our roster.

I also feel like if that's what you like you could always just sign a free agent like Deandre Jordan, Jaxson Hayes, Jericho Sims, Christian Koloko, or Kai Jones

The player archetype is sort of readily available

Love me some Kai Jones


Kid is an athletic freak with great feel and IQ.

He has All defense talent. Don’t know that he will ever have an offensive game more than dunking.

Don’t think AK would ever draft him because he likes hub bigs that can pass shoot and dribble.

I do think Beringer with Giddey would be special. He flies up and down the court and he would run teams off the court. He’d immediately make Coby and Giddey better defenders.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#104 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:24 pm

sco wrote:Is it just me or are others now firmly of the belief that:

1) There will be at least 1 starting-caliber/high impact player available when we draft at #12, and
2) That AK will draft someone who is another Terry-caliber player (i.e. too flawed to get off the bench on a good team)

IMO, the only thing that can save us is if someone unexpected drops and AK has no choice, like Matas did.


I believe one of KJ Noa or Coward will be there.

I’d be very happy with one of them.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#105 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:26 pm

sco wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
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If I'm choosing between him and Demin, I choose him all day long (despite not liking have to learn how to spell his name).

He's the right type of guy to force the Bulls to play Matas at the 3 (which I think he can excel at although they will largely switchable on defense).


All day.

I think Noa will be better than Ace and will be a winning player very quickly. See him more like a mobile Chet as a 4/5. Think he will plays lots of smallball 5 as he fills in. Kid could be a cheat code at the 5 and he flies up and down the court.

Think he has the 3rd highest ceiling in the class and his floor is an impactful rotation wing/big. Kid is going to be good. If he plays with a good PG he will be electric.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#106 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:35 pm

ThisGuyFawkes wrote:We still have 2 weeks until the draft??? Can we just draft a player already so I can talk myself into them?


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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#107 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:43 pm

Chi town wrote:
sco wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
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If I'm choosing between him and Demin, I choose him all day long (despite not liking have to learn how to spell his name).

He's the right type of guy to force the Bulls to play Matas at the 3 (which I think he can excel at although they will largely switchable on defense).


All day.

I think Noa will be better than Ace and will be a winning player very quickly. See him more like a mobile Chet as a 4/5. Think he will plays lots of smallball 5 as he fills in. Kid could be a cheat code at the 5 and he flies up and down the court.

Think he has the 3rd highest ceiling in the class and his floor is an impactful rotation wing/big. Kid is going to be good. If he plays with a good PG he will be electric.


I think in general the board prefers Essenge over Demin, even most or all Demin “fans” like me. Essenge is my #2 among reasonably available players.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#108 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:47 pm

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sco wrote:If I'm choosing between him and Demin, I choose him all day long (despite not liking have to learn how to spell his name).

He's the right type of guy to force the Bulls to play Matas at the 3 (which I think he can excel at although they will largely switchable on defense).


All day.

I think Noa will be better than Ace and will be a winning player very quickly. See him more like a mobile Chet as a 4/5. Think he will plays lots of smallball 5 as he fills in. Kid could be a cheat code at the 5 and he flies up and down the court.

Think he has the 3rd highest ceiling in the class and his floor is an impactful rotation wing/big. Kid is going to be good. If he plays with a good PG he will be electric.


I think in general the board prefers Essenge over Demin, even most or all Demin “fans” like me. Essenge is my #2 among reasonably available players.


KJ #1?

I’ve put Noa over KJ and Coward.

Giannis was 6’9 195 at 18. Noa has gained an inch and 10 lbs in the last year. Once he fills in… watch out. FT magnet.

Buz was 6’10 197 with 6’10 wingspan.

Chet was 7’0 195 and 7’5 wingspan at age 20 for the draft.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#109 » by Muzbar » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:49 pm

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Those are some really solid measurements. I think he's moved to no. 2 and pushing for no. 1 in my top 3.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#110 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:52 pm

Chi town wrote:
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All day.

I think Noa will be better than Ace and will be a winning player very quickly. See him more like a mobile Chet as a 4/5. Think he will plays lots of smallball 5 as he fills in. Kid could be a cheat code at the 5 and he flies up and down the court.

Think he has the 3rd highest ceiling in the class and his floor is an impactful rotation wing/big. Kid is going to be good. If he plays with a good PG he will be electric.


I think in general the board prefers Essenge over Demin, even most or all Demin “fans” like me. Essenge is my #2 among reasonably available players.


KJ #1?

I’ve put Noa over KJ and Coward.

Giannis was 6’9 195 at 18. Noa has gained an inch and 10 lbs in the last year. Once he fills in… watch out. FT magnet.

Buz was 6’10 197 with 6’10 wingspan.


Yes, KJ. I have him as the 5 overall prospect in the draft.

Other than Demin, I believe you and I see the #12 prospects fairly similarly.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#111 » by drosestruts » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:57 pm

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drosestruts wrote:Did we already comment on Beringer's official measurements coming out?

6'11" barefoot, 234 pounds, 7'4.5" wingspan, and a 9'3" standing reach

If you like athletic centers chances are you like Beringer.

I've been a fan at times during the lead up to the draft. His ability to run the floor and be a vertical spacer would be a new addition to our roster.

I also feel like if that's what you like you could always just sign a free agent like Deandre Jordan, Jaxson Hayes, Jericho Sims, Christian Koloko, or Kai Jones

The player archetype is sort of readily available

Love me some Kai Jones


Kid is an athletic freak with great feel and IQ.

He has All defense talent. Don’t know that he will ever have an offensive game more than dunking.

Don’t think AK would ever draft him because he likes hub bigs that can pass shoot and dribble.

I do think Beringer with Giddey would be special. He flies up and down the court and he would run teams off the court. He’d immediately make Coby and Giddey better defenders.


I certainly agree the Beringer is an athletic freak with a great feel for the game.

I feel like the IQ part is still TBD

It's obviously impressive what he's able to do while being relativley new to the game.

I have no idea what he'll look like in the NBA playing the game at an NBA levle - paticulrarly defensivley.

Again you look at someone like Jaxson Hayes who offers a lot of the same size and athleticism - but can't stay on the court because he's absolutley clueless.


I do think offensivley Chicago would be a great landing spot due to having Giddey, Ball, and Jones - all three who will get Beringer easy buckets.

Defenisvley he has the tools, I'm not saying he doesn't have the IQ, just in my own evaluation I'd have that as a big TBD.

But everyone in our range comes with questions or concerns so it's certainly not disqualifying.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#112 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:02 pm

DRose… watch Beringer’s scouting videos and you will see him baiting teams in with his PNR coverage to get steals and matchups he wants. I saw 3 different coverages in one half.

Kid sees the plays one and two steps ahead. Already knows how to impact games with blitzes, drops and help side.

He has Gobert level defensive potential.

I don’t know what that’s worth in this NBA where D only guys can’t play in crunch time in the playoffs.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#113 » by Jvaughn » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:26 pm

Jase Richardson breakdown. Seems like the board talk about him has quieted down considerably.

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#114 » by Muzbar » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:34 pm

Jvaughn wrote:Jase Richardson breakdown. Seems like the board talk about him has quieted down considerably.


I was originally not all that interested in Jase but the more I watched of him the more I liked him. I think him measuring smaller (in height) made quite a few sour on him. He does still have a nice wingspan though.

If the Bulls trade Coby, I'd love for the Bulls to pick up Jase as a 'replacement'.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#115 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:42 pm

Schmitz formerly with DX is now in the FO in POR. Supposedly he is a big Demin fan.
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Post#116 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:50 pm

Chi town wrote:Schmitz formerly with DX is now in the FO in POR. Supposedly he is a big Demin fan.


They will be the only team(maybe Nets...) that will stop the Bulls from drafting Demin assuming the reports are real.

Demin has grown on me in the past week or so after looking more into him, Big connective guard/wing in the Lonzo mold. Though I'll admit, it's easy to "buy into" any prospect when consistently watching, or reading about them, even the popular internet scouts admit that.
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Post#117 » by nomorezorro » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:57 pm

Muzbar wrote:I was originally not all that interested in Jase but the more I watched of him the more I liked him. I think him measuring smaller (in height) made quite a few sour on him. He does still have a nice wingspan though.

If the Bulls trade Coby, I'd love for the Bulls to pick up Jase as a 'replacement'.


i've definitely also softened on jase a lot after initially putting him in the 'do not consider' pile after the combine measurements

still don't love the fit here with the guard glut but yeah, my interest in him would spike if coby is not sticking around. (in a vacuum, honestly seems like he could be a good guy to pair with giddey?)
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#118 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:21 pm

Chi town wrote:Schmitz formerly with DX is now in the FO in POR. Supposedly he is a big Demin fan.


That strikes me as a great fit for Demin and Portland. His ability to feed a giant like Clingan from every conceivable angle, in addition to his ability to be a complimentary player to their many wing/guard scorers would make a lot of sense.
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Post#119 » by drosestruts » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:42 pm

All the Euro guys measuring well. Saraf's measurements in now too

6'6" barefoot, 200 pounds, 6'8,75" wingspan, 8'4" standing reach, 9.5" hand-size

Easily 6'7" in shoes will help Saraf's value tremendously. Long arms and big hands too.
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Post#120 » by DuckIII » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:44 pm

I haven’t worked my way through every conceivable option at 12. Sometimes I turn to one who gets hot in this thread, this time it’s Beringer. I had seen some video before but hadn’t dug in.

Add him to the top of my “can live with” list. The speed and general athleticism fit the model I am hoping AK is going for: Give the ball to Giddey and Lonzo and run like your hair is on fire.

Obviously the offense is crazy raw.

But the thing that really explodes off the screen about him is his ability to hedge and recover. His speed is really unusually exceptional in that regard. I saw clips in which he extended out several feet beyond the 3 point line and fully recovered to protect the rim in a way that was almost shocking.

Doesn’t upset my top 4 of KJ, Essenge, CMB, Demin (in that order) but he goes ahead of 3/D guys like Bryant and Coward due to the uniqueness factor.

I’m sold.
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