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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1001 » by Chi town » Wed Feb 5, 2020 1:59 pm

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Atlanta should easily leap frog Chicago next season. Then you have KD and Wall coming back as well.


That’s what everyone said last season too. Capela is hurt a lot. Who knows? Seems like health and injuries write the story of each teams season so much now.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1002 » by Jimako10 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 4:45 pm

I feel like Houston knows they aren't good enough with a semi traditional lineup and are gonna try something experimental/possibly trendsetting like throwing out a 5 guard/wing lineup for huge chunks of a game. It worked really well recently against Utah where they were 15 point underdogs and had Harden/RW/Capela out with injury. They started PJ Tucker at center and they beat Utah by 9 in Utah, a team that was 19-2 in their previous 21 games.


EDIT: Didn't realize they had already announced PJ Tucker at center for the rest of the season before making this post!
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1003 » by kodo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 8:06 pm

Interesting to see Morey double down on the "centers are dead" stance, meanwhile Chicago is collecting big men and have only 1 healthy wing on the team. Complete opposites in terms of FO strategy.

I wonder who will look better.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1004 » by Mech Engineer » Wed Feb 5, 2020 8:36 pm

Teams have to adjust to Houston. They are counting on their clanks being long rebounds.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1005 » by sco » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:13 pm

kodo wrote:Interesting to see Morey double down on the "centers are dead" stance, meanwhile Chicago is collecting big men and have only 1 healthy wing on the team. Complete opposites in terms of FO strategy.

I wonder who will look better.

But Chicago isn't paying a lot for its collection, which is the key. Felicio isn't overpaid for a back-up C...it's just that he's overpaid for his level of play.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1006 » by MrSparkle » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:29 pm

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kodo wrote:Interesting to see Morey double down on the "centers are dead" stance, meanwhile Chicago is collecting big men and have only 1 healthy wing on the team. Complete opposites in terms of FO strategy.

I wonder who will look better.

But Chicago isn't paying a lot for its collection, which is the key. Felicio isn't overpaid for a back-up C...it's just that he's overpaid for his level of play.


Well drafting them to be your core is a high means of paying for your big man rotation.

We have yet to see it pan out for anybody except Embiid/PHI. Possibly JJJ and the Grizzlies, but they got the creator in Morant, and they traded a declined retirement-ready Marc for JV.

Lesson learned there, is that if you really want a good starting center, you pretty much trade an expiring contract and a late 1st for your choice of Capela, Valanciunas, Stevens, etc. I don’t think Drummond would demand more than a 10-12 pick in this crap draft.

Or better yet, you sign a bunch of wash ups to vet min contracts, like McGee and Howard, who still seem to do the job.

They addressed the easiest positions in their 3 tank drafts. Undersized SG, C, and a soft PF. Sure they make $6m each or so, but you lost so many games and such a player (Jimmy) to get 3 low assets?

Notice how Isaac in ORL has played less games and has had equal health issues, yet that guy can command a strong offer... because he’s a high ceiling two way wing. That’s what you draft for. Guys you can’t just trade Evan Turner and a late 1st for.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1007 » by GameBredAPBT » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:49 pm

jc23 wrote:
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Atlanta should easily leap frog Chicago next season. Then you have KD and Wall coming back as well.



Kevin Durant & John walls careers as top players are over. They’re irrelevant now. Everyone knows it, including the teams they’re signed to.

Atlanta’s future looks great
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1008 » by GimmeDat » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:51 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
jc23 wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:
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Atlanta should easily leap frog Chicago next season. Then you have KD and Wall coming back as well.



Kevin Durant & John walls careers as top players are over. They’re irrelevant now. Everyone knows it, including the teams they’re signed to.

Atlanta’s future looks great


Wall, sure... KD?
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1009 » by Mech Engineer » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:54 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
sco wrote:
kodo wrote:Interesting to see Morey double down on the "centers are dead" stance, meanwhile Chicago is collecting big men and have only 1 healthy wing on the team. Complete opposites in terms of FO strategy.

I wonder who will look better.

But Chicago isn't paying a lot for its collection, which is the key. Felicio isn't overpaid for a back-up C...it's just that he's overpaid for his level of play.


Well drafting them to be your core is a high means of paying for your big man rotation.

We have yet to see it pan out for anybody except Embiid/PHI. Possibly JJJ and the Grizzlies, but they got the creator in Morant, and they traded a declined retirement-ready Marc for JV.

Lesson learned there, is that if you really want a good starting center, you pretty much trade an expiring contract and a late 1st for your choice of Capela, Valanciunas, Stevens, etc. I don’t think Drummond would demand more than a 10-12 pick in this crap draft.

Or better yet, you sign a bunch of wash ups to vet min contracts, like McGee and Howard, who still seem to do the job.

They addressed the easiest positions in their 3 tank drafts. Undersized SG, C, and a soft PF. Sure they make $6m each or so, but you lost so many games and such a player (Jimmy) to get 3 low assets?

Notice how Isaac in ORL has played less games and has had equal health issues, yet that guy can command a strong offer... because he’s a high ceiling two way wing. That’s what you draft for. Guys you can’t just trade Evan Turner and a late 1st for.


Getting big men is relatively the easiest job of a GM and on top of it, they take a long time to develop. Unless you get somebody who is super elite, it's just a waste of a draft pick especially a high lottery pick.

I think Houston might be able to get a replacement for Capella at a cheap price both in terms of assets and money.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1010 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Wed Feb 5, 2020 11:04 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Rockets :banghead: unless they have something in the works too.. Their defense was bad even before, now will be even worse,despite Bell aint that bad C, but still. Covington for certainly aint a gamechanger/playoffs. Just odd move to go away from Capela on such a good contract.

Im happy for Atlanta dow, good young core and 1st lineup of Young, Huerter, Hunter, Collins, Capela is legit for next season playoff hunt.


Oh but he is..
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1011 » by RedBulls23 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:05 am

**Laughs in Jimmy Butler**

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1012 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:15 am

RedBulls23 wrote:**Laughs in Jimmy Butler**

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Butler is looking like a prophet lately.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1013 » by FriedRise » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:33 am

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1014 » by MeloRoseNoah » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:34 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:**Laughs in Jimmy Butler**

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Butler is looking like a prophet lately.


Jimmy Butler is a diva but he’s a winner. He will call out fake losers if he sees fit.

That’s why bums like Hoilberg and GarPax can’t handle him.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1015 » by dumbell78 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:21 am

Pat Riley never stops grinding and lookin for ways to get better. Dude is such a winner.
KC: Do you still think you're a championship-caliber team?
Gar: I never said that and correct me if I'm wrong.
KC: You were asked that question at the news conference announcing Thibodeau's dismissal and you answered yes
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1016 » by MisterRoy » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:06 am

dumbell78 wrote:Pat Riley never stops grinding and lookin for ways to get better. Dude is such a winner.

So true...


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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1017 » by Chi town » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:10 am

Riley vs. Presti for Gallinari.

No way Herro or Nunn goes.

If Gallinari goes do they seek CP3 too?
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1018 » by Mech Engineer » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:14 am

dumbell78 wrote:Pat Riley never stops grinding and lookin for ways to get better. Dude is such a winner.


And, they are getting it done even without picks. It is all about not following the latest fad like the Bulls seem to do very badly. And, also not depending on the draft as the only source of talent because talent is all over the place. You need to recognize it and develop it.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1019 » by Costa78 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:26 am

Riley is class all the way. This is how winning organizations should act. GarPax take a hike already.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1020 » by Jimako10 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:29 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:**Laughs in Jimmy Butler**

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Butler is looking like a prophet lately.


Seriously, Minny hasn't won a game with KAT playing since Thanksgiving....that's 16 losses in a row.

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