Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

Post #1001 » by **fleet** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:54 pm

Dean Pees. Almost as good as Dick Pole.

transplant · Post #1002 » by **transplant** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:19 pm

fleet wrote:Dean Pees. Almost as good as Dick Pole.

Either of them related to Dick Trickle?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Trickle

MisterRoy · Post #1003 » by **MisterRoy** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 pm

transplant wrote:
fleet wrote:Dean Pees. Almost as good as Dick Pole.

Either of them related to Dick Trickle?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Trickle

Dick Trickles pretty fast!

Hehe...

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dice · Post #1004 » by **dice** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:39 am

chicagoballer wrote:realistically, the bears need to look at Mack and Quinn. They have huge contracts and need to figure out why they didnt perform. Was it the defensive scheme, the training staff, or are they just not good anymore? Why did eddie jackson suck? It cant be just the defensive coordinator, there must be other reasons too. If you figure these out, you still have a chance to get 10-12 wins next year, no matter the quarterback. I am all for replacing management (Pace/phillips/mccaskey), but you cant ignore this regression on defensive side of the ball while you address the QB/WR/O-line.

PFF gave mack his best seasonal grade ever (tied w/ 2016). sacks aren't everything

dice · Post #1005 » by **dice** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:43 am

Susan wrote:
Chi town wrote:Bears part of the fray for Watson...

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2021/01/20/oh-hello-chicago-bears-mentioned-as-possible-landing-spot-for-deshaun-watson/

I know dice will lose his head with this but I'd be excited for this.

depends on what they give up, of course. the mack trade was stupid, but a young, elite QB is a whole 'nother can of worms. he'll be underpaid for the rest of his career unless the QB market catches up to what they're actually worth

just be prepared for it not to truly pay off for years if they give up valuable upcoming picks

if it wasn't ryan pace desperate to salvage his career (again) i'd feel better about this news. but it looks like he might get another crack at gullible bears fans with 'kick me' signs on their backs. and he apparently gets paid by the kick

Susan · Post #1006 » by **Susan** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:27 am

dice wrote:
Susan wrote:
Chi town wrote:Bears part of the fray for Watson...

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2021/01/20/oh-hello-chicago-bears-mentioned-as-possible-landing-spot-for-deshaun-watson/

I know dice will lose his head with this but I'd be excited for this.

depends on what they give up, of course. the mack trade was stupid, but a young, elite QB is a whole 'nother can of worms. he'll be underpaid for the rest of his career unless the QB market catches up to what they're actually worth

just be prepared for it not to truly pay off for years if they give up valuable upcoming picks

if it wasn't ryan pace desperate to salvage his career (again) i'd feel better about this news. but it looks like he might get another crack at gullible bears fans with 'kick me' signs on their backs. and he apparently gets paid by the kick

I think it could pay off in year 1, followed by the clear downswing once his contract would kick in and then the stability for the next x amount of years having an elite QB. They'd have to keep ARob for at least a year to make it really work in year 1 but I think you could put yourself in contention for the Super Bowl next year with a little bit of luck with that trade.

Chi town · Post #1007 » by **Chi town** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:10 am

Will be interesting to see what it will take to get Watson. 3 1sts?

Would Bears give up players and 1sts?

chicagoballer · Post #1008 » by **chicagoballer** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:49 am

dice wrote:
chicagoballer wrote:realistically, the bears need to look at Mack and Quinn. They have huge contracts and need to figure out why they didnt perform. Was it the defensive scheme, the training staff, or are they just not good anymore? Why did eddie jackson suck? It cant be just the defensive coordinator, there must be other reasons too. If you figure these out, you still have a chance to get 10-12 wins next year, no matter the quarterback. I am all for replacing management (Pace/phillips/mccaskey), but you cant ignore this regression on defensive side of the ball while you address the QB/WR/O-line.

PFF gave mack his best seasonal grade ever (tied w/ 2016). sacks aren't everything

I didnt say sacks are everything, but I shouldnt have said he didnt perform. His play, including the last season, doesnt justify his salary. I looped him in because he is the highest paid player on the defense. Our defense is paid to be elite, and it hasnt been since 2018. He is underperforming with quinn, trevathan, jackson, fuller. They need to play to their salary level. Mack was closest to somewhat justifying his salary.

nomorezorro · Post #1009 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:11 am

at this point in my life, i would probably not blink at the bears giving up a decade of picks to secure a good QB

Jcool0 · Post #1010 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:14 pm

He's right

Read on Twitter

chicagoballer · Post #1011 » by **chicagoballer** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:24 pm

Jcool0 wrote:He's right

Read on Twitter

nice, we need more respected former players to speak up

nomorezorro · Post #1012 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:14 pm

Read on Twitter

a trestman guy getting the job in 2021 is pretty funny but this dude has a cool story. hope it works out!

Susan · Post #1013 » by **Susan** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:22 pm

nomorezorro wrote:

Read on Twitter

a trestman guy getting the job in 2021 is pretty funny but this dude has a cool story. hope it works out!

Fangio loved him.

Sam Acho was pushing for him all week.

Read on Twitter

In other NFL news, the Texans are thinking about hiring Josh McCown as their HC.

chicagoballer · Post #1014 » by **chicagoballer** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:28 pm

nomorezorro wrote:

Read on Twitter

a trestman guy getting the job in 2021 is pretty funny but this dude has a cool story. hope it works out!

first indian descent person in a high coaching position in the NFL. props to the guy for breaking through. media reporting he was fangio's "right hand man". I am cautiously optimistic with this promotion. On the flip side, he was the safeties coach and eddie jackson regressed this year. Also, If fangio loved him, why didnt he take him with to denver? some red flags, but if he fails, just add him to the giant list of mccaskey failures over the last few decades

nomorezorro · Post #1015 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:39 pm

fangio put in a request to interview him, but the bears blocked it and promoted him

Susan · Post #1016 » by **Susan** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:39 am

I think I remember hearing about his story a year or so ago.

He had a real interesting path to the NFL from what I remember.

dice · Post #1017 » by **dice** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:11 am

but virginia mccaskey is a racist

Sebastian · Post #1018 » by **Sebastian** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:19 am

Chi town wrote:Will be interesting to see what it will take to get Watson. 3 1sts?

Would Bears give up players and 1sts?

Nah, not enough. Roquan, 3 1sts, and some more mid round picks. Is it worth it? Not unless the Bears fix the problems they have upstairs. Which they won't. If they're gonna trade for a QB I'd rather they knock on Philly's door and see if Hurts is available.

Chi town · Post #1019 » by **Chi town** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:15 pm

I like Desai as DC. Want to see some of that Fangio D.

Pace has to at the very least get a Minshew, Carr, or get a QB in the first round.

MisterRoy · Post #1020 » by **MisterRoy** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:26 pm

Chi town wrote:I like Desai as DC. Want to see some of that Fangio D.

Pace has to at the very least get a Minshew, Carr, or get a QB in the first round.

He drafted a QB. It didn't work out. He needs to go get someone he knows is good.

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