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Re: Around The NBA : 21-22 Edition 

Post#1001 » by FriedRise » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:26 am

Boucher finally got some playing time and had a monster game vs Philly:

28/19/2b
10-14 shooting
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Post#1002 » by Andi Obst » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:21 pm

FriedRise wrote:Boucher finally got some playing time and had a monster game vs Philly:

28/19/2b
10-14 shooting
5-7 from deep


Also 0 assists in 38 minutes again. He’s at 11 assists total for the season. His physical tools are interesting, especially in combination with the shooting, but he’s such a selfish, low IQ player. I’d stay away from that.
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Post#1003 » by MGB8 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Wow... that's huge impact. Even in the game last night... they were spanking the (non-Ingram) Pelicans until Rubio went down - *without* Garland (though with Mobley and Okoro back).

I think Ricky having such a positive impact on Cleveland, though, tells you something about the *type* of young players that they have, as opposed to Minnesota. Some guys are looking for tips and guidance as to how to get better. Other guys... not so much. And that makes a big difference.

I'm hoping that we have similar young guys here in Chicago. I think we definitely do in LaVine (gravitated towards Thad, now towards DeMarr), in Lonzo (just his own driven improvement), and I think in Pat (speculation based on his pre-draft training with Dinwiddie). Hopefully in Coby, too - even if he ends up as not part of the long term plan - a positive "give me any good ideas you have to help me help myself improve" attitude - can only help him and his value to the team (as a player or as a trade-asset).
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Post#1004 » by MGB8 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:37 pm

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FriedRise wrote:Boucher finally got some playing time and had a monster game vs Philly:

28/19/2b
10-14 shooting
5-7 from deep


Also 0 assists in 38 minutes again. He’s at 11 assists total for the season. His physical tools are interesting, especially in combination with the shooting, but he’s such a selfish, low IQ player. I’d stay away from that.


That may be true to an extent... and his impact over the last two games, while big in the box-score, can't actually helped TO win either (though at least they were competitive against the for-whatever-reason still struggling Sixers). However, Boucher's ideal role is as a role player, first big off the bench type. He averaged 1.1 apg last season (down to 0.4 in 75% or so of the minutes this year).. which isn't terrible given the role.

But the overall "great physical tools, not so great basketball IQ" is true. The question is whether he's a guy who gets slowly gets "smarter" over time (a la Gerald Green, Jeff Green, James Johnson, Richaun Holmes, even to an extent Javele McGee) or a guy who simply doesn't (Josh Smith, Tyrus Thomas, Eddie Robinson, Corey Benjamin, etc. etc.).

DJ Wilson, who the Raptors signed on hardship and has even better tools than Boucher (and is younger at 25) is in the same boat. And I still wish the Bulls had signed him over Alize (though I liked the Alize signing and thought it was a close call between those two deep bench options) - simply because of those higher end tools.
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Post#1005 » by kodo » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:11 pm

MGB8 wrote:Wow... that's huge impact. Even in the game last night... they were spanking the (non-Ingram) Pelicans until Rubio went down - *without* Garland (though with Mobley and Okoro back).

I think Ricky having such a positive impact on Cleveland, though, tells you something about the *type* of young players that they have, as opposed to Minnesota. Some guys are looking for tips and guidance as to how to get better. Other guys... not so much. And that makes a big difference.

I'm hoping that we have similar young guys here in Chicago. I think we definitely do in LaVine (gravitated towards Thad, now towards DeMarr), in Lonzo (just his own driven improvement), and I think in Pat (speculation based on his pre-draft training with Dinwiddie). Hopefully in Coby, too - even if he ends up as not part of the long term plan - a positive "give me any good ideas you have to help me help myself improve" attitude - can only help him and his value to the team (as a player or as a trade-asset).


I feel bad for Rubio, he's played well on two of the best teams in the league Utah & Phoenix, and both traded him. He was bitter about both trades. I don't think he did anything wrong, they just wanted upgrades in Conley & CP3. I'm glad he's finally contributing on a good team where he may stick.

He's got a little of the Lonzo thing going on where he's not much of a scorer but just makes great plays.
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Post#1006 » by Dresden » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:20 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
FriedRise wrote:Boucher finally got some playing time and had a monster game vs Philly:

28/19/2b
10-14 shooting
5-7 from deep


Also 0 assists in 38 minutes again. He’s at 11 assists total for the season. His physical tools are interesting, especially in combination with the shooting, but he’s such a selfish, low IQ player. I’d stay away from that.


A guy puts up 28/19 and you're worried that he didn't have an assist? that's like worrying that Barry Bonds didn't have many sacrifice bunts....
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Post#1007 » by Dan Z » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:31 pm

MGB8 wrote:Wow... that's huge impact. Even in the game last night... they were spanking the (non-Ingram) Pelicans until Rubio went down - *without* Garland (though with Mobley and Okoro back).

I think Ricky having such a positive impact on Cleveland, though, tells you something about the *type* of young players that they have, as opposed to Minnesota. Some guys are looking for tips and guidance as to how to get better. Other guys... not so much. And that makes a big difference.

I'm hoping that we have similar young guys here in Chicago. I think we definitely do in LaVine (gravitated towards Thad, now towards DeMarr), in Lonzo (just his own driven improvement), and I think in Pat (speculation based on his pre-draft training with Dinwiddie). Hopefully in Coby, too - even if he ends up as not part of the long term plan - a positive "give me any good ideas you have to help me help myself improve" attitude - can only help him and his value to the team (as a player or as a trade-asset).


Ayo seems to be that type of player too.
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Post#1008 » by Andi Obst » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:33 pm

Dresden wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
FriedRise wrote:Boucher finally got some playing time and had a monster game vs Philly:

28/19/2b
10-14 shooting
5-7 from deep


Also 0 assists in 38 minutes again. He’s at 11 assists total for the season. His physical tools are interesting, especially in combination with the shooting, but he’s such a selfish, low IQ player. I’d stay away from that.


A guy puts up 28/19 and you're worried that he didn't have an assist? that's like worrying that Barry Bonds didn't have many sacrifice bunts....


No, I’m worried about him in general. He had a great game yesterday, but there’s a reason he didn’t even see big minutes when Siakam was out to begin the season. He’s playing for himself and himself only.
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Post#1009 » by sco » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:16 pm

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With those percentages I'm sure it's more than just lack of minutes, hell it's probably why he doesn't get more playing time.

Sato seemed very upset when he was traded, maybe being in NOLA broke him?


It's possible that he just lost interest in the NBA. Maybe he goes to Europe after this?


Possible, he may just want out of NOLA, I could see Sato being a buy out candidate.

The guy I thought we shoulda kept on a buy-low deal was Porter (shooting 40% from 3 with .9 st, .5bk in 21 MPG this season), who signed a $2.3M 1yr deal. I'm sure he was deemed a bad cultural fit, but he was due for a bounce back.
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Post#1010 » by Dan Z » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:27 pm

sco wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:
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It's possible that he just lost interest in the NBA. Maybe he goes to Europe after this?


Possible, he may just want out of NOLA, I could see Sato being a buy out candidate.

The guy I thought we shoulda kept on a buy-low deal was Porter (shooting 40% from 3 with .9 st, .5bk in 21 MPG this season), who signed a $2.3M 1yr deal. I'm sure he was deemed a bad cultural fit, but he was due for a bounce back.


I figured he'd bounce back too (contract year), but it was time to move on.
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Post#1011 » by TheFinishSniper » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:40 pm

Good we kept Porter away from Chicago. Not only he couldnt stay healthy, but to me he was terrible from leadership perspective. Only reason he signed with Warriors is exactly for this reason so he could reup his value, get new deal on big market with a lot TV games, while playing small role with no leadership perspective. He Cousin'ed.
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Post#1012 » by Clocian » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:57 pm

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Post#1013 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:01 pm

Isiah Thomas on a new team already
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Post#1014 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:03 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:Good we kept Porter away from Chicago. Not only he couldnt stay healthy, but to me he was terrible from leadership perspective. Only reason he signed with Warriors is exactly for this reason so he could reup his value, get new deal on big market with a lot TV games, while playing small role with no leadership perspective. He Cousin'ed.



Porter would have been OK with this current team for sure just like he is GSW. He was not good as the best player on any team though ever. He would be a decent PF answer for us right now though and he seems healthier than he has been. Yup he is a bum no doubt and injury prone but has skills for sure.
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Post#1015 » by Jcool0 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:31 pm

big loss

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Post#1016 » by TheFinishSniper » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm

Jcool0 wrote:big loss

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Left knee? Oh God. He had ACL injury already on same knee. That gotta be depressing.
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Post#1017 » by FriedRise » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:46 pm

Yeah that’s a gut punch for the Cavs. Such a shame because they’re having a really nice season.
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Post#1018 » by cool007 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:55 pm

FriedRise wrote:Yeah that’s a gut punch for the Cavs. Such a shame because they’re having a really nice season.


Yeah, they will definitely miss him. He brought a nice leadership to that young team and they are taking another step but this is a big blow for them. Worse than Bulls losing Pat Will for a while.

Cavs will still be good but they will miss Rubio for sure.
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Post#1019 » by Chi town » Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:37 am

Jcool0 wrote:big loss

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Such a bummer for Rubio and Cavs. Sucks.
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Post#1020 » by Leto » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:34 am

Wow..Celtics lost to the Clippers. Clippers are down to signing their cheerleaders to 10 day contracts.

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