Bosh and Wade @ Agents Office With Bulls

Ralphb07 · Post #1021 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:44 pm

jStuNNa wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:How do you know the Bulls can't contend for a title immediately? Derrick Rose is going to get better. You watch Derrick and see he has the "IT" factor, he really does. You put the right pieces around him, he can lead us there. He is that good.

How would the Bulls with Boozer be that much better than the Jazz with Boozer? They'd probably only be slightly better.

WOW

Besides Williams who does Utah have? Okur is not better than Noah.

Deng at SF is better than AK47 or Miles for them

Rose and Williams IMO even impact wise

We also have money to fill out the roster and like a poster above said look at what Utah has done in the west, east is much weaker.

Utah has never had a trio of Rose, Noah and Deng to surround Boozer.

Wade County · Post #1022 » by **Wade County** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:45 pm

You would need to do 2 sign and trades for both of them to get the 6th year on their contracts. and at 28 years old you can be sure Wade would want it.

TheAdmiral · Post #1023 » by **TheAdmiral** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:46 pm

RicBucher

For those saying Chi can S&T for 1 and sign other outright: forget it. Neither Bosh nor Wade is taking less than 6 yr, $120m. Nor wd you. less than a minute ago via web

Mad Mike · Post #1024 » by **Mad Mike** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:46 pm

so wade will leave 30 million and not ask for a sign and trade?

kyrv · Post #1025 » by **kyrv** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:47 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:
RicBucher

For those saying Chi can S&T for 1 and sign other outright: forget it. Neither Bosh nor Wade is taking less than 6 yr, $120m. Nor wd you. less than a minute ago via web

I wouldn't? Thanks Buchie.

What am I having for dinner?

What jersey is Bryant wearing these days?

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1026 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:48 pm

The point is that the Bulls don't have to include/trade Deng to get the deal done.

El Ridda · Post #1027 » by **El Ridda** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:49 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:
RicBucher

For those saying Chi can S&T for 1 and sign other outright: forget it. Neither Bosh nor Wade is taking less than 6 yr, $120m. Nor wd you. less than a minute ago via web

If this is true about Wade then there is no way that these guys come here. That said, this is almost definitely him speculating as opposed to anything he has heard from sources. I see no way that Riley gives in to Wade to come to Chi and become essentially a superteam.

babythug23 · Post #1028 » by **babythug23** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:49 pm

I don't see what the big deal is on the 6th year. They say its 20 or 30 million more but its not really that much when you say its 5 years vs 6 years. So the 6TH year re-sign them. Plus most of them going to opt out before the 4 or 5 year any way to get a longer contract

Reality Hammer · Post #1029 » by **Reality Hammer** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:49 pm

Wade County wrote:You would need to do 2 sign and trades for both of them to get the 6th year on their contracts. and at 28 years old you can be sure Wade would want it.

I don't think that applies to both of them. For Wade the main point for him is being closer to his kids and then basketball.

As for Bosh it defiently appears that he wants a S & T since he wants the extra 30 mil.

I'd be happy with signing Lee IF we get LeBron or Wade. Definetly wouldn't mind getting both LeBron and Wade but I feel that is highly unlikely.

SpinninHouse · Post #1030 » by **SpinninHouse** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:51 pm

I cant imagine Wade leaving $30M on the table. I also can't imagine Miami-Chicago orchestrating a S/T. In my gut I don't envision him coming here.

Neusch23 · Post #1031 » by **Neusch23** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:51 pm

if wade leaves, I could see Riles trading Wade to get an extra pick, plus a big trade exemption. Then he can use that at the deadline to bring guys in. I could see Arenas going there after he fill his roster.

Or Riles just get so pissed he tells Dwade to go blank himself.

The choice isn't Wades to get that 6th year like Bucher states, it is the clubs decision. Ric is a moron.

Clocian · Post #1032 » by **Clocian** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:51 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:
RicBucher

For those saying Chi can S&T for 1 and sign other outright: forget it. Neither Bosh nor Wade is taking less than 6 yr, $120m. Nor wd you. less than a minute ago via web

lol

kyrv · Post #1033 » by **kyrv** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:52 pm

Neusch23 wrote:if wade leaves, I could see Riles trading Wade to get an extra pick, plus a big trade exemption. Then he can use that at the deadline to bring guys in. I could see Arenas going there after he fill his roster.

Or Riles just get so pissed he tells Dwade to go blank himself.

The choice isn't Wades to get that 6th year like Bucher states, it is the clubs decision. Ric is a moron.

Miami will help Wade - they are loyal!

davhern · Post #1034 » by **davhern** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:53 pm

SpinninHouse wrote:I cant imagine Wade leaving $30M on the table. I also can't imagine Miami-Chicago orchestrating a S/T. In my gut I don't envision him coming here.

It's not that simple. Why does everybody (media included) try to make it that simple?

TheAdmiral · Post #1035 » by **TheAdmiral** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:55 pm

IraHeatBeat

Having failed at one attempt with a Wade rally, the Heat hits the road on Tuesday to try to get it right a second time. http://bit.ly/bsyXxr 2 minutes ago via web

BobbyBuckets · Post #1036 » by **BobbyBuckets** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:55 pm

I don't know, but There's Something About Bucher...

SpinninHouse · Post #1037 » by **SpinninHouse** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:57 pm

davhern wrote:
SpinninHouse wrote:I cant imagine Wade leaving $30M on the table. I also can't imagine Miami-Chicago orchestrating a S/T. In my gut I don't envision him coming here.

It's not that simple. Why does everybody (media included) try to make it that simple?

In the end it really is that simple. People can talk all that want about winning, family, etc but to me the most telling variable is the $30M being left on the table.

Bankshot · Post #1038 » by **Bankshot** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:58 pm

Didn't Amare just get signed without a sign and trade, leaving potential money on the table? I know it's slightly different as he had no offer from his home team but I think Bosh is young enough where he won't be loosing the 30 million as he will get another contract when this next contract is up.

nitetrain8603 · Post #1039 » by **nitetrain8603** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:59 pm

SpinninHouse wrote:
davhern wrote:
SpinninHouse wrote:I cant imagine Wade leaving $30M on the table. I also can't imagine Miami-Chicago orchestrating a S/T. In my gut I don't envision him coming here.

It's not that simple. Why does everybody (media included) try to make it that simple?

In the end it really is that simple. People can talk all that want about winning, family, etc but to me the most telling variable is the $30M being left on the table.

I agree. If someone poured 30M on the table, no way would anyone here turn that down. Even if you had 30M in the bank.

dabig3 · Post #1040 » by **dabig3** » Mon Jul 5, 2010 11:59 pm

davhern wrote:
SpinninHouse wrote:I cant imagine Wade leaving $30M on the table. I also can't imagine Miami-Chicago orchestrating a S/T. In my gut I don't envision him coming here.

It's not that simple. Why does everybody (media included) try to make it that simple?

I also don't understand either. If it were that simple wouldn't he have already re-signed by now, with the Heat being more than happy to give him that 6 year max deal? Are the Heat just not willing to commit like that yet, thus the hold up and all the drama?