2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

[Jvaughn]

I really hate that Givony jumped ship to ESPN. Draft Express' mock was always the most accurate.

Couldn't agree more, I really miss his coverage, And it's not worth to me signing up to ESPN. (In that same subject, I'm not renewing my subscription to The Athletic, their Bulls coverage is really lacking).

Well... here's Givony's most recent mock:

1. ORL - Jabari Smith
2. OKC - Chet Holmgren
3. HOU - Paolo Banchero
4. SAC - Jaden Ivey
5. DET - Keegan Murray
6. IND - Benedict Mathurin
7. POR - Dyson Daniels
8. NOP - Shaedon Sharpe
9. SAS - Jalen Duren
10. WAS - Johnny Davis
11. NYK - AJ Griffin
12. OKC - Ousmane Dieng
13. CHA - Jeremy Sochan
14. CLE - Ochai Agbaji
15. CHA - Mark Williams
16. ATL - Malaki Branham
17. HOU - Tari Eason
18. CHI - Jalen Williams

Rival teams say the Bulls aren't in love with their options here, and they are open to trading the pick, potentially in a package with combo guard Coby White. If they stand pat, the versatility offered by Williams could be attractive here, as Williams has the length to defend power forwards with his 7-2 wingspan, but also possesses the court vision, playmaking and shooting to be utilized at point guard in college, which should provide him with the versatility to slide all over the floor for a team that had to plug holes last season in an injury-plagued campaign.

19. MIN - Walker Kessler
20. SAS - Blake Wesley
21. DEN - TyTy Washington
22. MEM - Kennedy Chandler
23. PHI - Jaden Hardy
24. MIL - Nikola Jovic
25. SAS - EJ Liddell
26. HOU - Marjon Beauchamp
27. MIA - Dalen Terry
28. GSW - Jake LaRavia
29. MEM - Caleb Houstan
30. DEN - David Roddy

If that's how the draft shakes up, then outside of Hardy, there are no other prospects I'm over the moon about in that range. Jalen Williams would be a fine pick.

[DuckIII]

I’d sure love to see Eason or Branham be available when we pick. Just ahead of us as of now based on Givony’s board.

I haven’t seen a mock yet with Branham falling to us but that would be a coup.

[Dresden]

I’d sure love to see Eason or Branham be available when we pick. Just ahead of us as of now based on Givony’s board.

I haven’t seen a mock yet with Branham falling to us but that would be a coup.

Any of the guys 13-16 on that list would be great if they fell to us. I think I like Eason over Jalen Williams if both are there. Interesting that he has Kessler going at 19. I would take Kessler over Jacob Poetl, who supposedly we wanted to trade the pick for....

[othawhitemeat]

I’d sure love to see Eason or Branham be available when we pick. Just ahead of us as of now based on Givony’s board.

I haven’t seen a mock yet with Branham falling to us but that would be a coup.

Branhams seems to have a game similar to DeRozen (not saying he is as good) so him being here would be quite the coup to learn more from the master of mid range. I am not as high on Eason though. He is a fluid athlete with a lot of talent, but he always leaves me wondering on basketball IQ. Big Branham, Liddell, Duran, or trade down for multiple picks such as Koloko, Diabete, Juzang type player.

[chefo]

Jovic out of the lottery? I'd take a swing and not think twice about it, unless they're trading the pick for a player that can play right now.

He looks like a Wagner that can actually jump. Kid is an absolute beast for an 18-year old-- can shoot, handle, run and pass. He's probably a better player than Pat as-is, let alone after the Bulls trainers have him put on the 15-20 extra pounds he needs. In other words, he's a Poku that can already play so you don't have to live with the embarrassment of having him on the floor for 2 years before he stops looking like the worst player on the team.

[kulaz3000]

Work out a trade with the Kings and draft Ivey!

[Dresden]

Jovic out of the lottery? I'd take a swing and not think twice about it, unless they're trading the pick for a player that can play right now.

He looks like a Wagner that can actually jump. Kid is an absolute beast for an 18-year old-- can shoot, handle, run and pass. He's probably a better player than Pat as-is, let alone after the Bulls trainers have him put on the 15-20 extra pounds he needs. In other words, he's a Poku that can already play so you don't have to live with the embarrassment of having him on the floor for 2 years before he stops looking like the worst player on the team.

What I don't like about Jovic is his sub par athleticism. We are already weak on D, and having him on the floor would just make that worse. He's not quick enough to guard 3's, and he's too weak to guard 4's. And on offense, I'm not sure how well he'll be able to get his shot off against quicker, stronger defenders.

[nomorezorro]

based on how things are shaking out, i would not be surprised if we "reached" for a vaguely tools-y guy by virtue of not being impressed with anybody generally perceived to be "in our range"

like i know this specific example is lazy because he's a consensus second-round guy that someone happened to link to us recently, but i wouldn't blink at something like josh minott at 18

[Dresden]

based on how things are shaking out, i would not be surprised if we "reached" for a vaguely tools-y guy by virtue of not being impressed with anybody generally perceived to be "in our range"

like i know this specific example is lazy because he's a consensus second-round guy that someone happened to link to us recently, but i wouldn't blink at something like josh minott at 18

I don't see what would be so bad about getting someone like Jalen Williams or EJ Liddell, assuming no one like Eason, Sochan, Duren, or Williams falls to us. Both those guys check a lot of boxes, and they're both nba ready with nba level skills, and both are two way players, or have the potential to be.

[chefo]

Jovic out of the lottery? I'd take a swing and not think twice about it, unless they're trading the pick for a player that can play right now.

He looks like a Wagner that can actually jump. Kid is an absolute beast for an 18-year old-- can shoot, handle, run and pass. He's probably a better player than Pat as-is, let alone after the Bulls trainers have him put on the 15-20 extra pounds he needs. In other words, he's a Poku that can already play so you don't have to live with the embarrassment of having him on the floor for 2 years before he stops looking like the worst player on the team.

What I don't like about Jovic is his sub par athleticism. We are already weak on D, and having him on the floor would just make that worse. He's not quick enough to guard 3's, and he's too weak to guard 4's. And on offense, I'm not sure how well he'll be able to get his shot off against quicker, stronger defenders.

I don't think he's ready to play 15-20 min right now. No 18 year old is. Or likely anybody the Bulls would pick at 18 on a veteran team. But purely from a tool box perspective--kid is as tall as Niko and has a very similar look to his release, which is to say it's quick and very high. I don't think he'll have much problem getting catch and shoots off. As for his athleticism, I don't know where it originated that he's subpar. All his videos I watched, he's actually looked incredibly fluid and laterally quick for somebody that tall. He's a kid still, which means awareness and defensive footwork, and rotating properly, won't be there for probably 2-3 years at least, but that's probably true for anybody the Bulls take.

I'm for trading the pick for help right now, but if they're keeping it, I want to swing for the fence for a 6'11 SF/SG that can shoot, as well as dunk on people on closeouts and on the break. In Europe you don't do nearly as much weight training early, so you've got to remember you're looking at a kid still who's probably 2-3 years behind his USA peers in terms of working on his body. He doesn't look like many of the top athletes in the NCAA, but on the other hand, he played against grown-up professionals for a full season and played pretty well. The other things is, from what I've read, he only started playing hoops at 13 (which is incredibly late), and by 18 was arguably the best or second best prospect in Europe for his age group... that's mighty impressive.

He'll be a bet, but a high payout one, because is he gets on the Giannis regiment, he can potentially be an absolute beast in 5-6 years with his size and quick feet, and already decent ball-handling.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

There is a rumor that Portland is discussing 7 for 12 and Dort. Love the trade for Portland, who could also nab one of the centers at 12. And it’s a win now move, meaning the Bulls are going to get that Portland pick sooner than later.

[Repeat 3-peat]

There is a rumor that Portland is discussing 7 for 12 and Dort. Love the trade for Portland, who could also nab one of the centers at 12. And it’s a win now move, meaning the Bulls are going to get that Portland pick sooner than later.

They could do that trade, then move #12 for Grant.

[Repeat 3-peat]

based on how things are shaking out, i would not be surprised if we "reached" for a vaguely tools-y guy by virtue of not being impressed with anybody generally perceived to be "in our range"

like i know this specific example is lazy because he's a consensus second-round guy that someone happened to link to us recently, but i wouldn't blink at something like josh minott at 18

This is where I've been leaning the past few days. #18 is likely to be someone many don't expect. Minott could be that player.

[gobullschi]

There is a rumor that Portland is discussing 7 for 12 and Dort. Love the trade for Portland, who could also nab one of the centers at 12. And it’s a win now move, meaning the Bulls are going to get that Portland pick sooner than later.

They could do that trade, then move #12 for Grant.

I don’t get the rumor. Maybe if they moved up to 4. Dort is best friends with SGA and he’s only 23.

[Dan Z]

Work out a trade with the Kings and draft Ivey!

What kind of trade are you thinking?

If I'm the Kings, and I think Ivey is the best player available, I'd probably draft him despite what he says.

[Repeat 3-peat]

There is a rumor that Portland is discussing 7 for 12 and Dort. Love the trade for Portland, who could also nab one of the centers at 12. And it’s a win now move, meaning the Bulls are going to get that Portland pick sooner than later.

They could do that trade, then move #12 for Grant.

I don’t get the rumor. Maybe if they moved up to 4. Dort is best friends with SGA and he’s only 23.

There were rumors about a week or so ago that OKC like the idea of pairing Chet with Jeremy Sochan.

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[Dresden]

Agbaji would be a pretty good pick up if he falls to us. Not much of a handle will limit his ceiling. Also not much of a passer. But as a 3 and D wing, he would be perfect. He's almost automatic on corner 3's, and really gets after it on D. And he is athletic and a threat on lobs. He's just not going to create much offense for himself, and he doesn't have much of an ability to get to the rim on his own. Maybe some of that can be learned?

[ThisGuyFawkes]

Watching Horford really makes me want to take a guy like Liddell.

[Rose2Boozer]

The Rockets seems like a decent trade partner for the Bulls. The Bulls could send them White and 18 for 17 and 26.
Jalen Williams and Dominik Barlow would be a solid return.