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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1061 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:05 am

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Bears trade for Watson.

I am in for this one.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1062 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:54 am

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Well the bears passed on Mahomes, apparently didn’t call To. Brady back las offseason even though he was interested so I can’t see a way that they go after Rodgers if available. This team is allergic to good quarterbacks. Cutler is the best we have had and he might be the most hated Quarterback in this town that didn’t play for the packers. Hell this team is so allergic to quarterbacks, we sent a really solid middling QB in Orton away to get worse. Rex is our quarterback.


They went after Brady.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2908551-tom-brady-considered-signing-bears-contract-before-bucs-deal-dan-patrick-says


The Bears never contacted Brady, although he said he was open to the idea. The contract in that article was proposed by a journalist not the Bears. There was another article at the time that said they never reached out. In fairness I don’t think it is likely he ended up here and that’s why they never bothered, back channels likely told him their name was just for leverage.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1063 » by Bulls69 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:09 pm

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C'mon Pace. He would be welcomed here!


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ARod now wants a new contract he played his last game with the Packers get your popcorn ready.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1064 » by Jcool0 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:24 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1065 » by Dresden » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:46 am

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Well the bears passed on Mahomes, apparently didn’t call To. Brady back las offseason even though he was interested so I can’t see a way that they go after Rodgers if available. This team is allergic to good quarterbacks. Cutler is the best we have had and he might be the most hated Quarterback in this town that didn’t play for the packers. Hell this team is so allergic to quarterbacks, we sent a really solid middling QB in Orton away to get worse. Rex is our quarterback.


They went after Brady.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2908551-tom-brady-considered-signing-bears-contract-before-bucs-deal-dan-patrick-says


The Bears never contacted Brady, although he said he was open to the idea. The contract in that article was proposed by a journalist not the Bears. There was another article at the time that said they never reached out. In fairness I don’t think it is likely he ended up here and that’s why they never bothered, back channels likely told him their name was just for leverage.


Pretty sure he wanted to go somewhere warm.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1066 » by MalagaBulls » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:07 am

Mac Jones has looked good at the Senior Bowl practice. What are some thoughts on drafting him as a plan C or D?
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1067 » by DJhitek » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:20 am

The Bears don’t have the capital to trade for Watson IMO. Stick to the draft and try to find a young signal caller and continue to build offensive line.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1068 » by Michael Jackson » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:02 pm

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The Bears never contacted Brady, although he said he was open to the idea. The contract in that article was proposed by a journalist not the Bears. There was another article at the time that said they never reached out. In fairness I don’t think it is likely he ended up here and that’s why they never bothered, back channels likely told him their name was just for leverage.


Pretty sure he wanted to go somewhere warm.



Agreed at best wept he Bears were an okay option as they could potentially contend and were good to use for leverage but never were a top destination. I personally would want to go to a warmer place too with less taxes on my high income so I get it, and it literally worked out for Brady. I think more than weather, he looked at the O line.
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Post#1069 » by Susan » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:03 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1070 » by Susan » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:05 pm

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Dresden wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
The Bears never contacted Brady, although he said he was open to the idea. The contract in that article was proposed by a journalist not the Bears. There was another article at the time that said they never reached out. In fairness I don’t think it is likely he ended up here and that’s why they never bothered, back channels likely told him their name was just for leverage.


Pretty sure he wanted to go somewhere warm.



Agreed at best wept he Bears were an okay option as they could potentially contend and were good to use for leverage but never were a top destination. I personally would want to go to a warmer place too with less taxes on my high income so I get it, and it literally worked out for Brady. I think more than weather, he looked at the O line.


And Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, OJ Howard (before injury) and their defense was stacked.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1071 » by moorhosj » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:41 pm

Michael Jackson wrote:I personally would want to go to a warmer place too with less taxes on my high income so I get it, and it literally worked out for Brady.


Can we put this talking point to rest? Is there any evidence a player has let this impact their free agency decision? I only see the point brought up on message boards and talk radio.

* Brady stayed in a "high-tax" state for 20 years, when he could have left multiple times.
* Kawhi, Lebron, and Durant all chose "high-tax" states in free agency. Deshaun Watson is currently trying to escape the low-taxes of Houston. Rodgers stayed in Green Bay with Wisconsin's high taxes. Peyton left Indy for higher taxes in Denver, etc., etc.
* You pay taxes to the state you are working in, Brady only gets 8 paychecks towards Florida taxes. For 2020, he will pay taxes for road games in Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina, New York, Colorado, and Nevada.
* Tampa Bay had a bunch of talent, except at QB. It was the perfect landing place football-wise.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1072 » by CjayC » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:52 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Mac Jones has looked good at the Senior Bowl practice. What are some thoughts on drafting him as a plan C or D?


Wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted before 20. The Bears are gonna have take on a serious project, or suck next year(Which is very likely) to get their next signal caller.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1073 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:04 pm

I can't imagine Pace and/or Nagy feel like they have enough time here to draft and develop a QB into a starting and winning role. If we draft a guy we are being aggressive and moving up for one of the 2 maybe 3 QB's that they think can start and contribute day 1 not including Lawrence of course as he is going to the Jags. But we know how that went last time. Its a crapshoot! That's really rolling the dice here. I mean unless Pace really doesn't care or really thinks he can't go wrong with his QB pick this go around :roll: .

So to me it has to be a move for a proven NFL QB. I'm not just talking about a Foles type trade. They could be looking to save their a$$es and going big here. Buckle up, we might be in for an interesting offseason (I'm hoping). And if not then surprise! Trubisky is back :lol:

And no I don't want Rodgers. That would be like wanting Lebron on the Bulls. I'd rather lose without him. He can go to the AFC somewhere and leave us to beat the Packers without him.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1074 » by Chi town » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:26 am

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:I can't imagine Pace and/or Nagy feel like they have enough time here to draft and develop a QB into a starting and winning role. If we draft a guy we are being aggressive and moving up for one of the 2 maybe 3 QB's that they think can start and contribute day 1 not including Lawrence of course as he is going to the Jags. But we know how that went last time. Its a crapshoot! That's really rolling the dice here. I mean unless Pace really doesn't care or really thinks he can't go wrong with his QB pick this go around :roll: .

So to me it has to be a move for a proven NFL QB. I'm not just talking about a Foles type trade. They could be looking to save their a$$es and going big here. Buckle up, we might be in for an interesting offseason (I'm hoping). And if not then surprise! Trubisky is back :lol:

And no I don't want Rodgers. That would be like wanting Lebron on the Bulls. I'd rather lose without him. He can go to the AFC somewhere and leave us to beat the Packers without him.


Yep. Draft won’t save their jobs unless they lock out.

Very least they will do is trade up which will cost them next years first.

Very most they do is trade 3-4 1sts for Watson.

I expect them to trade for Carr or Minshew after missing out on Watson.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1075 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:28 am

Chi town wrote:
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:I can't imagine Pace and/or Nagy feel like they have enough time here to draft and develop a QB into a starting and winning role. If we draft a guy we are being aggressive and moving up for one of the 2 maybe 3 QB's that they think can start and contribute day 1 not including Lawrence of course as he is going to the Jags. But we know how that went last time. Its a crapshoot! That's really rolling the dice here. I mean unless Pace really doesn't care or really thinks he can't go wrong with his QB pick this go around :roll: .

So to me it has to be a move for a proven NFL QB. I'm not just talking about a Foles type trade. They could be looking to save their a$$es and going big here. Buckle up, we might be in for an interesting offseason (I'm hoping). And if not then surprise! Trubisky is back :lol:

And no I don't want Rodgers. That would be like wanting Lebron on the Bulls. I'd rather lose without him. He can go to the AFC somewhere and leave us to beat the Packers without him.


Yep. Draft won’t save their jobs unless they lock out.

Very least they will do is trade up which will cost them next years first.

Very most they do is trade 3-4 1sts for Watson.

I expect them to trade for Carr or Minshew after missing out on Watson.


I'd be ok with Carr as long as they don't overpay. But if they think Minshew is going to save their jobs just fire them now.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1076 » by dice » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:50 am

moorhosj wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:I personally would want to go to a warmer place too with less taxes on my high income so I get it, and it literally worked out for Brady.


Can we put this talking point to rest? Is there any evidence a player has let this impact their free agency decision? I only see the point brought up on message boards and talk radio.

* Brady stayed in a "high-tax" state for 20 years, when he could have left multiple times.

not only that, but he took pay cuts so that belichick could put better players around him. he clearly didn't go to tampa for the tax cuts

* Kawhi, Lebron, and Durant all chose "high-tax" states in free agency. Deshaun Watson is currently trying to escape the low-taxes of Houston. Rodgers stayed in Green Bay with Wisconsin's high taxes. Peyton left Indy for higher taxes in Denver, etc., etc

watch watson end up in the highest tax state and play for the niners

fwiw, here are the current odds:

Jets +250
Dolphins +300
Panthers +500
49ers +700
Patriots +900
Broncos +1000
Washington +1200
Cowboys +1500
Raiders +1700
Bears +2000
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Post#1077 » by Michael Jackson » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:45 pm

moorhosj wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:I personally would want to go to a warmer place too with less taxes on my high income so I get it, and it literally worked out for Brady.


Can we put this talking point to rest? Is there any evidence a player has let this impact their free agency decision? I only see the point brought up on message boards and talk radio.

* Brady stayed in a "high-tax" state for 20 years, when he could have left multiple times.
* Kawhi, Lebron, and Durant all chose "high-tax" states in free agency. Deshaun Watson is currently trying to escape the low-taxes of Houston. Rodgers stayed in Green Bay with Wisconsin's high taxes. Peyton left Indy for higher taxes in Denver, etc., etc.
* You pay taxes to the state you are working in, Brady only gets 8 paychecks towards Florida taxes. For 2020, he will pay taxes for road games in Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina, New York, Colorado, and Nevada.
* Tampa Bay had a bunch of talent, except at QB. It was the perfect landing place football-wise.



I am not saying the reason he is it was that and I agree that it is only a small motivation, but it is as Jerry Krause said a sweetener. I also said for me personally and it absolutely would be a part of the consideration in my decision on choosing a job, if the company sucks, I would not chose them plain and simple but all things bing equal, if I could keep a bit more of my money it will be a partial motivation. At a 5% tax rate fo those 8 games it ends up being $625,000. In the grand scope of the $25,000,000 for the season and career earnings it is not make or break, especially considering a winning situation versus a losing one. Yet if all things are equal personally I am taking the extra half million plus
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1078 » by Am2626 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:17 pm

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C'mon Pace. He would be welcomed here!


Sent from somewhere you've never been.


ARod now wants a new contract he played his last game with the Packers get your popcorn ready.


If ARod wants to stick it to Green Bay he should come over to the Bears and win a Super Bowl here.
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Post#1079 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:59 pm

Am2626 wrote:
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Sent from somewhere you've never been.


ARod now wants a new contract he played his last game with the Packers get your popcorn ready.


If ARod wants to stick it to Green Bay he should come over to the Bears and win a Super Bowl here.


If he doesn't like how that coaching staff manages a game I doubt he would want anything to do with this one.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1080 » by dice » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:06 pm

the mocks have all the major QB prospects being gone well before pick #20. o-line seems to be the most likely bet for the bears
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