Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

[biggestbullsfan]

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[dougthonus]

Search committees in sports are usually a bad idea. I get it in theory you don't know what you are doing and hire someone who does. But Either you are having Bill Polian and/or Ernie Accorsi advising you to hire one of there buddies or you are hiring an outside firm who will want you to hire one of there clients. It rarely leads to the best candidate.

Yeah, I work in senior leadership at my company, and one of the things I've noticed seeing a lot of leadership hires is that if you don't have expertise in an area, it is really hard to make the right hire. I have seen that same thing play out in corporate searches, when they don't have expertise in the hire they get a firm to manage it but the candidates are still hit or miss, and if they go out on their own it isn't much different.

You almost have to luck into a really good hire whom can then set the direction, bring in other really good people, do succession planning then have good internal expertise going forward.

[panthermark]

Committees won't matter either way if you have Trace Armstrong whispering sweet nothings in the McCaskey's ears.
This article is almost 2 years old. Dan Quinn thought he was coming to Chicago.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/dan-quinn-thought-hed-be-the-next-bears-head-coach/

You could say we missed out on Quinn twice.
Once in 2022.
Once again in 2024 when we DIDN'T fire Flus and hire a new HC to align with CW. That was the same off-season we passed on KK for Waldron at OC. (Who was Waldron's agent again?)

Quinn and KK teamed up in Washington, took JD #2 in the draft, and are now in the NFC title game in their 1st year.

THAT is interference.

[Jcool0]

Search committees in sports are usually a bad idea. I get it in theory you don't know what you are doing and hire someone who does. But Either you are having Bill Polian and/or Ernie Accorsi advising you to hire one of there buddies or you are hiring an outside firm who will want you to hire one of there clients. It rarely leads to the best candidate.

Yeah, I work in senior leadership at my company, and one of the things I've noticed seeing a lot of leadership hires is that if you don't have expertise in an area, it is really hard to make the right hire. I have seen that same thing play out in corporate searches, when they don't have expertise in the hire they get a firm to manage it but the candidates are still hit or miss, and if they go out on their own it isn't much different.

You almost have to luck into a really good hire whom can then set the direction, bring in other really good people, do succession planning then have good internal expertise going forward.

Bears are due for some luck. You have Ditka in 1982 and then i guess you could put Lovie in 2004, though only made the playoffs 3x in 9 seasons. That is a long time without a "top" coach. Though not as bad as the QB drought.

[Betta Bulleavit]

So, this may sound a bit silly so bear with me.

If Thomas Brown is Thomas Brown still under contract with the Bears? If so, is there any chance that he’s retained in a different role…perhaps as a passing game coordinator or maybe even a de facto OC? I know there’s been talks of Allen as the DC and Rizzi was mentioned as a ST coordinator. But I figured I’d throw it out there.

[dougthonus]

So, this may sound a bit silly so bear with me.

If Thomas Brown is Thomas Brown still under contract with the Bears? If so, is there any chance that he’s retained in a different role…perhaps as a passing game coordinator or maybe even a de facto OC? I know there’s been talks of Allen as the DC and Rizzi was mentioned as a ST coordinator. But I figured I’d throw it out there.

I do not know about his contract status, but based on his initial role, I would _guess_ that he is not under contract, and the Bears would be free to pursue or not pursue him pending if Johnson wants to. I would guess Johnson probably would choose not to pursue him just to cut ties with the old org, but if he really believes in Thomas Brown, it's not out of the question.

[nitetrain8603]

So, this may sound a bit silly so bear with me.

If Thomas Brown is Thomas Brown still under contract with the Bears? If so, is there any chance that he’s retained in a different role…perhaps as a passing game coordinator or maybe even a de facto OC? I know there’s been talks of Allen as the DC and Rizzi was mentioned as a ST coordinator. But I figured I’d throw it out there.

Hes interviewing for OC jobs. I'd be shocked if he stays but would be happy. I think he was put in a bad spot way too soon.

Also it wucks how the Bears spend but don't know how to make good decisions historically, all other Chicago teams have competence but they cry poor whenever there is a mic in front of them.

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[Dresden]

I really like the idea that Johnson met with mccaskey and basically told him “don’t f with me”

When did McCaskey interfere with Eberflus?

[patryk7754]

I really like the idea that Johnson met with mccaskey and basically told him “don’t f with me”

The rub is how enforceable that is. I assume George could backslide at any time. It would be a good idea to have contract language for Ben. Not that Ben gets to dictate everything. Within certain parameters.

McCaskey doesn't really seem like that much of a meddler in football ops. I don't know what the big concern here is. Am I missing something where McCaskey came in and started screwing up football decisions? Like Jerry Jones seems all over that kind of thing, I don't know that is McCaskey's style.

I never really felt he meddled with football ops, it was just he and his teams were very bad at hiring the right people. Regardless of what involvement McCaskey actually has, the important thing is that Johnson set the standard of "let the football guys do the football things and stay in your own lane". I feel like that would mostly apply to Warren. But I like that he's not a yes man

[patryk7754]

I really like the idea that Johnson met with mccaskey and basically told him “don’t f with me”

When did McCaskey interfere with Eberflus?

probably didn't. I'm just going off that tweet that johnson met with Mccaskey to make sure that everyone was on the same page and what his expectations are. Everyone has basically been a yes man to this point and, based on that tweet, it seems like johnson will be willing to push back when/if needed.

[fleet]

So, this may sound a bit silly so bear with me.

If Thomas Brown is Thomas Brown still under contract with the Bears? If so, is there any chance that he’s retained in a different role…perhaps as a passing game coordinator or maybe even a de facto OC? I know there’s been talks of Allen as the DC and Rizzi was mentioned as a ST coordinator. But I figured I’d throw it out there.

Hes interviewing for OC jobs. I'd be shocked if he stays but would be happy. I think he was put in a bad spot way too soon.

Also it wucks how the Bears spend but don't know how to make good decisions historically, all other Chicago teams have competence but they cry poor whenever there is a mic in front of them.

BJ is undoubtedly going to ask Caleb about what he and TB worked on together. I think if Caleb likes him, the conversation might come up. But short of that, Ben has a list of guys already in mind for the entire staff. And the days of Chris Morgan type scenarios are undoubtedly over.

[patryk7754]

Seems like Johnson has his DC and ST coach set (or at least we know what he's looking for in those type of guys). Whats a mystery is what he wants from an OC. I'm guessing he's going to be calling plays, so he'll prioritize bringing in an OC who can do all the logistic stuff during practice and help teach/implement his system. Its likely that he brings in someone he's worked with previously (probably with the lions). Someone I'd like to see outside of someone Johnson has experience with is Mick Lombardi. He's currently a senior offensive assistant with the 49ers. Not sure his exact role, but he has experience helping execute a high level offense. He's also had decent success as OC/assistant where he's been. Although the QBs he coached at the time didn't have crazy good seasons, they arguably had their best seasons under him.

Another guy I would love to see come in. Maybe as QBs coach, if he's willing, is Clyde Christensen. His resume speaks for itself and he and Johnson worked together in Miami.

[nitetrain8603]

So, this may sound a bit silly so bear with me.

If Thomas Brown is Thomas Brown still under contract with the Bears? If so, is there any chance that he’s retained in a different role…perhaps as a passing game coordinator or maybe even a de facto OC? I know there’s been talks of Allen as the DC and Rizzi was mentioned as a ST coordinator. But I figured I’d throw it out there.

Hes interviewing for OC jobs. I'd be shocked if he stays but would be happy. I think he was put in a bad spot way too soon.

Also it wucks how the Bears spend but don't know how to make good decisions historically, all other Chicago teams have competence but they cry poor whenever there is a mic in front of them.

BJ is undoubtedly going to ask Caleb about what he and TB worked on together. I think if Caleb likes him, the conversation might come up. But short of that, Ben has a list of guys already in mind for the entire staff. And the days of Chris Morgan type scenarios are undoubtedly over.

Part of me hopes he reprograms Caleb into throwing in tight windows.

[biggestbullsfan]

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[Jcool0]

I really like the idea that Johnson met with mccaskey and basically told him “don’t f with me”

When did McCaskey interfere with Eberflus?

probably didn't. I'm just going off that tweet that johnson met with Mccaskey to make sure that everyone was on the same page and what his expectations are. Everyone has basically been a yes man to this point and, based on that tweet, it seems like johnson will be willing to push back when/if needed.

Bears Blog gets coaching candidate stuff but i wouldn't look to everything they say as gospel.

[nomorezorro]

Hes interviewing for OC jobs. I'd be shocked if he stays but would be happy.

i don't know why teams would be particularly eager to hire him as an offensive coordinator, personally. seems like a nice guy, and obviously he was put in pretty crummy situations, but his OC experience to date involves overseeing two incredibly bad offenses in carolina and chicago.

the one thing he can hang his hat on is three OK-looking weeks after he first took over for waldron, and that was followed up by a significant regression back to a bottom-of-the-league-caliber offense

[Betta Bulleavit]

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Man, that’s great to see!

But if your name is Matt Eberflus, this has to be like seeing the honeymoon footage of your ex-wife and the new dude. Damn….

[patryk7754]

When did McCaskey interfere with Eberflus?

probably didn't. I'm just going off that tweet that johnson met with Mccaskey to make sure that everyone was on the same page and what his expectations are. Everyone has basically been a yes man to this point and, based on that tweet, it seems like johnson will be willing to push back when/if needed.

Bears Blog gets coaching candidate stuff but i wouldn't look to everything they say as gospel.

no ones doing that. its just an interesting conversation

[Jcool0]

probably didn't. I'm just going off that tweet that johnson met with Mccaskey to make sure that everyone was on the same page and what his expectations are. Everyone has basically been a yes man to this point and, based on that tweet, it seems like johnson will be willing to push back when/if needed.

Bears Blog gets coaching candidate stuff but i wouldn't look to everything they say as gospel.

no ones doing that. its just an interesting conversation

I'm am just saying there is nothing out there to suggest the Bears needed to change anything to get this deal done other then maybe Poles given up a little control of the roster to the coach and most likely it came down to the Bears had a QB he thought gave him the best chance to win.

[Dresden]

Thomas Brown seems like a good communicator and he's got a fair amount of experience. I don't think he's ready to be an OC, but I could see the Bears keeping him around in some capacity.