LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

[Polynice4Pippen]

What makes you think Dwight would be interested in joining Chicago?

Why wouldn't he? He has a good friend in Boozer, a large town to play in, a winner, a good surrounding cast. The Bulls with Howard are pretty damn good and there's no question Dwight has been a pain for LeBron to drive in against throughout his career.

Dwight makes Miami's job much more difficult both on the defensive end as well as on offense because of the need to swarm Dwight off the pass. Noah can be guarded by Bosh, Dwight not so much. You need tremendous attention by LeBron/Wade. That leaves a bunch of shooters open.

Deng's future is limited in Chicago meaning that it's really Noah to Dwight.

Howard doesn't want to play for the Bulls. Bulls have rightfully moved on.

[Jajwanda]

He changes his mind every second of the day. The number of teams talking with Dwight is four or more, so take that for what you will. It just makes sense for him since it will fulfill a number of things that he does want and the team would be a definite winner and would hurt Miami at their two weakest positions (PG and C).

[Mech Engineer]

He changes his mind every second of the day. The number of teams talking with Dwight is four or more, so take that for what you will. It just makes sense for him since it will fulfill a number of things that he does want and the team would be a definite winner and would hurt Miami at their two weakest positions (PG and C).

I don't think GarPax trust(or they should) even if Dwight agrees to sign with the Bulls because he might change his mind by the time he drives from O'Hare to UC.

[Polynice4Pippen]

He changes his mind every second of the day. The number of teams talking with Dwight is four or more, so take that for what you will. It just makes sense for him since it will fulfill a number of things that he does want and the team would be a definite winner and would hurt Miami at their two weakest positions (PG and C).

It makes perfect sense for Dwight to want to play for the Bulls. But he made it clear last year he had no interest in being here. It's too cold, he wants to be the #1 guy, can't have 2 Adidas guys in the same market, and whatever other silliness. Bulls have moved on to someone who wants them, Aldridge.

[Jajwanda]

He just might..

Great rosters though if you look at them with that deal done.

[CalilLove89]

He changes his mind every second of the day. The number of teams talking with Dwight is four or more, so take that for what you will. It just makes sense for him since it will fulfill a number of things that he does want and the team would be a definite winner and would hurt Miami at their two weakest positions (PG and C).

Dwight is a child. It made too much sense for him to come here originally, I think he burned that bridge.

[TylerB]

Man, people clearly forgetting tall the Boozer no shows in the playoffs. When's Boozer's at his best, yeah Aldridge isn't THAT much better than Boozer. But Boozer is inconsistent Shocking, I know. Boozer's been benched in 4th quarters of playoff games, finished with single digit points in playoff games. He stunk against Philly in 2012 when we needed him. He puts up a strong game, then no shows, strong game, then no shows. Boozer is a consistent rebounder and passer, and a consistently awful defender. But his offense comes and goes and is far too unpredictable to ever be depended upon. Aldridge is just a more consistent basketball player than Boozer, he has the length to not be bothered by taller PF's in the playoffs, he has a go to move that he can get off any time down the floor. Aldridge is built for playoff consistency in a way Boozer isn't.

I feel like I am just kind of hating on Aldridge at this point but you don't know what you are talking about, and most of his supporters here have an unrealistic view of the player he is. Aldridge who has no showed every series he has ever played in. A 6'11 guy who averages 6.3 rebounds per 36 in the playoffs. The closest NBA comparison to Aldridge is Chris Bosh with worse defense.

Per 36 minutes in the playoffs with the Bulls Boozer is 15 and 10.4 shooting .454
Per 36 minutes in the playoffs Lamarcus Aldridge averages 17.7 and 6 shooting .462

Boozer's TS% this year in the playoffs is better than anything Aldridge has ever had.

Again Boozer is the only player on the Bulls who gets criticized for struggling in the playoffs when others get passes. Deng was brutally bad against Brooklyn before he was out. Noah has been bad versus Miami both times. DRose was terrible against Miami.

You are right, Boozer is a very inconsistent player in the playoffs, specifically with his scoring. But that really doesn't put him below Aldridge who has played very soft in his playoff appearances.

And by the way Boozer actually has had very nice playoff runs in his career and has put up 3 or 4 big games versus Miami and has had others along the way with the Bulls. People act like he lays an egg every night sometimes.

[jc23]

Chicago would need another player to make the salaries match. Include Hill and we got a deal.

But d12 doesnt want Chicago, he like Cindy Lauper "Just wants to have fun".

[Mech Engineer]

It might be a simplistic view but IMO, if Boozer was 6-11, he might have been "ok". He struggles against length and he takes that high-arch shot which is super slow to develop. It is now at a point where we have seen him struggle for 3 years in a row in the playoffs and that's enough proof. Aldridge might struggle too as we have no proof that he will not. That said, his length alone makes him a better bet to succeed.

The point about him taking those in-efficient long 2s is, it is much better for the Bulls to get some points rather than nothing. And, with their defense those long 2s will go a long way in helping them win games.

[Jordan45822]

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In an e-mail to The Oregonian, @aldridge_12 said rumors suggesting he has requested a trade from the #Blazers are false.

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"I haven't demanded a trade," @aldridge_12 told me in the e-mail.

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[TylerB]

It might be a simplistic view but IMO, if Boozer was 6-11, he might have been "ok". He struggles against length and he takes that high-arch shot which is super slow to develop. It is now at a point where we have seen him struggle for 3 years in a row in the playoffs and that's enough proof. Aldridge might struggle too as we have no proof that he will not. That said, his length alone makes him a better bet to succeed.

The point about him taking those in-efficient long 2s is, it is much better for the Bulls to get some points rather than nothing. And, with their defense those long 2s will go a long way in helping them win games.

Aldridge had 3 years in a row in the playoffs rebounding at an Eddy Curry level. I mean the last 3 games against Miami this year put Boozer at 20 and 10...I thought he couldn't perform against length, what happened? As a Bull he is 15 and 10 in the playoffs per 36. Hes not nearly as bad as people think, especially since the Bulls have played so many low scoring slugfest games where everyone on both teams shoot poorly.

Why does Boozer get held to these high standards but everyone else gets a pass. I still don't get it.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Man, people clearly forgetting tall the Boozer no shows in the playoffs. When's Boozer's at his best, yeah Aldridge isn't THAT much better than Boozer. But Boozer is inconsistent Shocking, I know. Boozer's been benched in 4th quarters of playoff games, finished with single digit points in playoff games. He stunk against Philly in 2012 when we needed him. He puts up a strong game, then no shows, strong game, then no shows. Boozer is a consistent rebounder and passer, and a consistently awful defender. But his offense comes and goes and is far too unpredictable to ever be depended upon. Aldridge is just a more consistent basketball player than Boozer, he has the length to not be bothered by taller PF's in the playoffs, he has a go to move that he can get off any time down the floor. Aldridge is built for playoff consistency in a way Boozer isn't.

I feel like I am just kind of hating on Aldridge at this point but you don't know what you are talking about, and most of his supporters here have an unrealistic view of the player he is. Aldridge who has no showed every series he has ever played in. A 6'11 guy who averages 6.3 rebounds per 36 in the playoffs. The closest NBA comparison to Aldridge is Chris Bosh with worse defense.

Per 36 minutes in the playoffs with the Bulls Boozer is 15 and 10.4 shooting .454
Per 36 minutes in the playoffs Lamarcus Aldridge averages 17.7 and 6 shooting .462

Boozer's TS% this year in the playoffs is better than anything Aldridge has ever had.

Again Boozer is the only player on the Bulls who gets criticized for struggling in the playoffs when others get passes. Deng was brutally bad against Brooklyn before he was out. Noah has been bad versus Miami both times. DRose was terrible against Miami.

You are right, Boozer is a very inconsistent player in the playoffs, specifically with his scoring. But that really doesn't put him below Aldridge who has played very soft in his playoff appearances.

And by the way Boozer actually has had very nice playoff runs in his career and has put up 3 or 4 big games versus Miami and has had others along the way with the Bulls. People act like he lays an egg every night sometimes.

Why do you keep using Aldridge's per 36 in the playoffs? He averages 20/7 on 46% in 3 career postseasons. Boozer's at 14/10 on 45% with the Bulls. That doesn't even include Boozer's lackluster defense. Also, Aldridge is younger and will be playing second fiddle to Derrick. The one time LA played with a healthy Brandon Roy in the postseason, he put up 19.5/7.5 on 49% with 2 blocks per as well. Boozer's one playoff run with Derrick; 14/11 on 43%.

EDIT: And keep in mind these are numbers Aldridge put up at ages 23, 24, 25 in the playoffs with Portland. Boozer in the Bulls playoff runs was 29, 30, 31.

[weneeda2guard]

once howard makes his decision, the remaining teams who got left out will then turn they attention towards josh smith and lamarcus aldridge

No they won't. LMA isn't a free agent.

Wow they are crazy if they said no Mirotic, Charlotte pick and Gibson.

No they aren't. A bench player, an unproven euro and a pick that might not be available or 3 years isn't a great offer for a franchise centerpiece with two years left on his contract.
(by franchise centerpiece, I mean he's the one they were building around, not that he can carry a team through the playoffs)

Right because the bulls are the only team that can trade for him lol

If its known that Aldridge is on the trade block its naive to believe kupchak or Cuban won't turn they attention to who is arguably considered the best pf in the league

They just not on it now to avoid compromising they cap space and assets and lose out on they prize in d12

Once d12 chooses out of lakers Houston or Dallas the remaining 2 teams will be going full steam at Aldridge if they know he available

Might be smart to nab him and avoid competing with kupchak and Cuban they will always win

The fact he has 2 years left on his deal makes it worst for us because it kills lamarcus leverage not like teams will hesitate because he can bounce in a year and not sign an extension they got him for 2 years anyway so him saying he only wants the bulls means nothing

We need to jump on dude now

[singal3]

Any interest in Dwight in a S and T involving Noah+Deng?

Taj, Kirk, Rip and Charlotte first round pick if he wanted to come here (which he doesn't).

Or of course he could sign with Dallas or Houston and you get NOTHING.

[Leto]

Tyler has already dispelled the myth that is Aldridge. Aldridge hasn't been any better than Boozer in the playoffs and 7 rebounds is not going to cut it. You cannot get 7 rebounds a game in the playoffs as the starting PF. And, he's not the only example. How about Bosh this post season? 12/7 on 46% Suck. David West? 16/7 46% suck Gasol? 2 suck games out of 4. It's just the way the game goes and especially in the playoffs against really good defense.

The point is not to show that Boozer is better than Aldridge--I don't think he is--but he's not far behind him. The difference is not Luol Deng plus picks etc.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Tyler has already dispelled the myth that is Aldridge. Aldridge hasn't been any better than Boozer in the playoffs and 7 rebounds is not going to cut it. You cannot get 7 rebounds a game in the playoffs as the starting PF. And, he's not the only example. How about Bosh this post season? 12/7 on 46% Suck. David West? 16/7 46% suck Gasol? 2 suck games out of 4. It's just the way the game goes and especially in the playoffs against really good defense.

The point is not to show that Boozer is better than Aldridge--I don't think he is--but he's not far behind him. The difference is not Luol Deng plus picks etc.

The bolded part is a flat out lie. Aldridge averaged 20 points per game on a better field goal percentage at a much younger age in postseason play than Boozer during his time with the Bulls. Facts are your friends.

[TylerB]

Why do you keep using Aldridge's per 36 in the playoffs? He averages 20/7 on 46% in 3 career postseasons. Boozer's at 14/10 on 45% with the Bulls. That doesn't even include Boozer's lackluster defense. Also, Aldridge is younger and will be playing second fiddle to Derrick. The one time LA played with a healthy Brandon Roy in the postseason, he put up 19.5/7.5 on 49% with 2 blocks per as well.

I put up per 36 because one player plays 40 minutes and the other plays 30. You can't just put the numbers up without adjusting for how long they are on the court. Do you know how bad 7 rebounds is in 40+ minutes on the court for a power forward?

That year he put up those numbers you claim he also got outplayed by Luis Scola and his team lost in 6. That same year he had a lower TS% than Boozer had this year. Yeah 49% looks ok until you realize he didn't get to the line at all that series.

Please don't cherry pick stats and leave out others to misrepresent their true meaning.

For instance 10 blocks in 6 games isn't 2 blocks a game and those 10 blocks don't mean a lot when you let Luis Scola shoot 57% from the field.

[TylerB]

And to reply to your next comically uninformed post, saying a guy averaged 20 points with a better FG% doesn't mean he was better. Especially when you consider his TS% and the fact that he can't rebound.

[Leto]

Tyler has already dispelled the myth that is Aldridge. Aldridge hasn't been any better than Boozer in the playoffs and 7 rebounds is not going to cut it. You cannot get 7 rebounds a game in the playoffs as the starting PF. And, he's not the only example. How about Bosh this post season? 12/7 on 46% Suck. David West? 16/7 46% suck Gasol? 2 suck games out of 4. It's just the way the game goes and especially in the playoffs against really good defense.

The point is not to show that Boozer is better than Aldridge--I don't think he is--but he's not far behind him. The difference is not Luol Deng plus picks etc.

The bolded part is a flat out lie. Aldridge averaged 20 points per game on a better field goal percentage at a much younger age in postseason play than Boozer during his time with the Bulls. Facts are your friends.

Nope. You're wrong.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Why do you keep using Aldridge's per 36 in the playoffs? He averages 20/7 on 46% in 3 career postseasons. Boozer's at 14/10 on 45% with the Bulls. That doesn't even include Boozer's lackluster defense. Also, Aldridge is younger and will be playing second fiddle to Derrick. The one time LA played with a healthy Brandon Roy in the postseason, he put up 19.5/7.5 on 49% with 2 blocks per as well.

I put up per 36 because one player plays 40 minutes and the other plays 30. You can't just put the numbers up without adjusting for how long they are on the court. Do you know how bad 7 rebounds is in 40+ minutes on the court for a power forward?

That year he put up those numbers you claim he also got outplayed by Luis Scola and his team lost in 6. That same year he had a lower TS% than Boozer had this year. Yeah 49% looks ok until you realize he didn't get to the line at all that series.

Please don't cherry pick stats and leave out others to misrepresent their true meaning.

For instance 10 blocks in 6 games isn't 2 blocks a game and those 10 blocks don't mean a lot when you let Luis Scola shoot 57% from the field.

There's a reason Boozer only plays 30 minutes per game in the playoffs. Thibs doesn't even want him on the floor half the time in the 4th quarter. That should tell you all you need to know.

Let's be honest here. Aldridge is a better scorer than Boozer, does so with better field goal percentages in the playoffs. That's something this Bulls team needs, more scoring, more offense. Aldridge showed a penchant for just that at ages 23, 24, 25. He's also a better defender than Boozer with better mobility to play in Thibs' defensive system, which will keep on the floor in the 4th quarters, unlike Boozer. He's a 20 ppg scorer, something Derrick has never had. Aldridge got outplayed by Scola? Aldridge at least put up good offensive numbers himself. Boozer got outplayed by Elton Brand last year in the playoffs. And he was a 30-year-old vet, not a 23-year-old youngin.

You're not an Aldridge fan, that's fair. But Aldridge is younger than Boozer, a better scorer on better field goal percentage, as well as a better defender than Boozer. Aldridge also gets to the line more in his playoff career than Boozer with the Bulls. Aldridge's rebounding is mediocre, but it's more acceptable than Boozer's defensive lapses. Also, Aldridge is a better rebounder now than he was 5 years ago at 9 per game now.