Bears talk 2.0; Fields era begins for real for real

[mack2354]

Rookies take a while to adjust to the speed of the NFL. Then add in an offensive line that is one of the worst in the league at pass protection and you can see why Fields is struggling. It's disappointing to watch but the **** show is going to continue until the game slows down or the line improves. I don't see drastic improvement in either department until at least next season

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[dougthonus]

Most Rookie QB’s looks awful in there first year Fields have some fixable problems. I don’t think a rookieMahomes would look good this team. I’m not an apologies for Fields but give him some time it’s not like the other rookie QB’s are firing up the league. The QB position is the hardest position to play in all of sports so patience is the key.

Just for what it's worth, I agree with this. I stated explicitly I wasn't concerned about his present abilities and think he just needs reps / time. It doesn't mean he's a lock to get there, but nothing that has happened to date is a huge concern for me yet either.

[fleet]

passing production is not all about the QB. he had some nice throws downfield, had some nice runs, and aside from the near-INT there were no unforced errors that i can recall (the INT was fluky). his main flaw so far as i can tell is that he is still adjusting to the speed of individual nfl pass rushers. there are times that he escapes the pocket and thinks he is in the clear but gets tracked down

Passing is not all about the QB, but it is mostly about the QB.

Regarding unforced errors, he had two horrible sacks that could have been avoided. In terms of mistakes, he missed multiple receivers, including a wide open Robinson for a touchdown.

The Bears have one of the worst offenses, if not the worst offense, in the league. One of the biggest culprits of this is the QB. I mean, if this type of production can lead someone to think that our rookie QB is looking good out there, then you're basically saying that there's no realistic situation in which you would have a differing opinion.

Strictly judging from the on-field performance, there is little reason to be overtly optimistic about Fields. That does not mean that Fields is destined to be a bust. He certainly has room to grow and will do so with experience (the extent of his growth will be the question). But the on-field production as of today should not be the basis for optimism about Fields' future. Like I've said, countless QB's have looked significantly better coming out the gates than Fields has.

Fields looked atrocious today, probably his worst game as a pro. Underestimated how fast the defensive line was, routinely cost him. Threw bombs to no one and should
Have gotten picked twice for it.

Really awful display.

Play calling continues to look clueless. The TE screen on the line is such a low IQ call. Then you run bootlegs to the short side of the field, just makes no sense. Low IQ.

This game was varsity vs JV.

The ex Bears liked what they see/saw from the rookie quarterback. The offense around him, not so much.

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[Bulls69]

Most Rookie QB’s looks awful in there first year Fields have some fixable problems. I don’t think a rookieMahomes would look good this team. I’m not an apologies for Fields but give him some time it’s not like the other rookie QB’s are firing up the league. The QB position is the hardest position to play in all of sports so patience is the key.

Just for what it's worth, I agree with this. I stated explicitly I wasn't concerned about his present abilities and think he just needs reps / time. It doesn't mean he's a lock to get there, but nothing that has happened to date is a huge concern for me yet either.

You absolutely right I knew coming in that this kid is going to struggle before he get better this is why this off season is so crucial for Field’s like getting the right coach and fixing the O Line.


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[fleet]

Most Rookie QB’s looks awful in there first year Fields have some fixable problems. I don’t think a rookieMahomes would look good this team. I’m not an apologies for Fields but give him some time it’s not like the other rookie QB’s are firing up the league. The QB position is the hardest position to play in all of sports so patience is the key.

Just for what it's worth, I agree with this. I stated explicitly I wasn't concerned about his present abilities and think he just needs reps / time. It doesn't mean he's a lock to get there, but nothing that has happened to date is a huge concern for me yet either.

You absolutely right I knew coming in that this kid is going to struggle before he get better this is why this off season is so crucial for Field’s like getting the right coach and fixing the O Line.


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He's been rattled from time to time because of what he's had to deal with. For the most part, he has shown he is going to make progress from where he is rather than go into some regressive state as was feared by some. He should have been QB1 in training camp and game 1, got a lot to learn and grow from.

[MAQ]

Refs had an extremely atrocious day for both teams.

[Dresden]

Just for what it's worth, I agree with this. I stated explicitly I wasn't concerned about his present abilities and think he just needs reps / time. It doesn't mean he's a lock to get there, but nothing that has happened to date is a huge concern for me yet either.

You absolutely right I knew coming in that this kid is going to struggle before he get better this is why this off season is so crucial for Field’s like getting the right coach and fixing the O Line.


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He's been rattled from time to time because of what he's had to deal with. For the most part, he has shown he is going to make progress from where he is rather than go into some regressive state as was feared by some. He should have been QB1 in training camp and game 1, got a lot to learn and grow from.

I think it is extremely rare for a rookie QB to be named the starter on Day One of training camp. Maybe Trevor Lawrence was given that honor, I"m not sure. But he was the #1 pick in the draft. I don't think any of the other rookies were, and I think going back to previous seasons, I think it's very rare, unless that QB was the #1 pick overall like an Andrew Luck.

FWIW, I think Nagy panicked by naming Fields the starting QB when he did. He was under intense pressure from fans and the media, who thought Fields would be able to come in and save the season. Or maybe he was ordered to do so by his boss. In any case, I wonder if he will go back to Dalton if Fields and the offense continues to struggle.

[Bulls69]

You absolutely right I knew coming in that this kid is going to struggle before he get better this is why this off season is so crucial for Field’s like getting the right coach and fixing the O Line.


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He's been rattled from time to time because of what he's had to deal with. For the most part, he has shown he is going to make progress from where he is rather than go into some regressive state as was feared by some. He should have been QB1 in training camp and game 1, got a lot to learn and grow from.

I think it is extremely rare for a rookie QB to be named the starter on Day One of training camp. Maybe Trevor Lawrence was given that honor, I"m not sure. But he was the #1 pick in the draft. I don't think any of the other rookies were, and I think going back to previous seasons, I think it's very rare, unless that QB was the #1 pick overall like an Andrew Luck.

FWIW, I think Nagy panicked by naming Fields the starting QB when he did. He was under intense pressure from fans and the media, who thought Fields would be able to come in and save the season. Or maybe he was ordered to do so by his boss. In any case, I wonder if he will go back to Dalton if Fields and the offense continues to struggle.

Nagy is not going back to Dalton they knew Fields is going to make mistakes like any other rookies. He will be fine I seen plenty of rookie Quarterbacks that struggled out the gate HOF’er Troy Akiman was 1-15 his rookie year.


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[dice]

Refs had an extremely atrocious day for both teams.

the packers offensive interference in the endzone was dubious, as was the hold call that brought back the herbert TD. what else? i don't think that the D-lineman jumping on the fields INT play should have been a penalty. didn't look like he was in the neutral zone when the ball was snapped

[Chicago-Bull-E]

passing production is not all about the QB. he had some nice throws downfield, had some nice runs, and aside from the near-INT there were no unforced errors that i can recall (the INT was fluky). his main flaw so far as i can tell is that he is still adjusting to the speed of individual nfl pass rushers. there are times that he escapes the pocket and thinks he is in the clear but gets tracked down

Passing is not all about the QB, but it is mostly about the QB.

Regarding unforced errors, he had two horrible sacks that could have been avoided. In terms of mistakes, he missed multiple receivers, including a wide open Robinson for a touchdown.

The Bears have one of the worst offenses, if not the worst offense, in the league. One of the biggest culprits of this is the QB. I mean, if this type of production can lead someone to think that our rookie QB is looking good out there, then you're basically saying that there's no realistic situation in which you would have a differing opinion.

Strictly judging from the on-field performance, there is little reason to be overtly optimistic about Fields. That does not mean that Fields is destined to be a bust. He certainly has room to grow and will do so with experience (the extent of his growth will be the question). But the on-field production as of today should not be the basis for optimism about Fields' future. Like I've said, countless QB's have looked significantly better coming out the gates than Fields has.

Fields looked atrocious today, probably his worst game as a pro. Underestimated how fast the defensive line was, routinely cost him. Threw bombs to no one and should
Have gotten picked twice for it.

Really awful display.

Play calling continues to look clueless. The TE screen on the line is such a low IQ call. Then you run bootlegs to the short side of the field, just makes no sense. Low IQ.

This game was varsity vs JV.

The ex Bears liked what they see/saw from the rookie quarterback. The offense around him, not so much.

Watch on YouTube

I didn’t watch the full thing, but it’s kind of their job to not go full doom and gloom. Olin starting by saying he’s impressed at one point they moved the ball and scored a TD is such an excruciating low bar, you can’t help but chuckle.

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[Susan]

The last two playoff spots are going to come down to the following:

Bears
Vikings
Panthers
Saints

Clear favorite games: SF, Pittsburgh, Giants and the Lions
Tossup Games: Minny 2x, Seattle
Heavy Underdog Games: TB. GB. Arizona, Baltimore

Seattle might tank because they're terrible without Russ and this is a great chance to get a top pick but that's a decent season, especially when you're starting a rookie QB.

[GetBuLLish]

I didn’t watch the full thing, but it’s kind of their job to not go full doom and gloom. Olin starting by saying he’s impressed at one point they moved the ball and scored a TD is such an excruciating low bar, you can’t help but chuckle.

Seriously. The bar is not even low anymore. It's on the ground.

[micromonkey]

Fields continues to throw fairly well deep.
He still needs to feel pressure and adjust to the speed of DEs.
A lot is learning--that last sack--there were 2 bears blockers on the guy--but he spun out and bam was there. Fields needs to learn that is NFL DEs. Another near fumble on a sack--has me seeing Dave Krieg again....

Decisiveness seems to be an issue at times--he missed a couple of open targets but so many times watching the reply 9/10 times no one had any damn separation.

The calling was OK-not the worst but not great. Olsen said it best--it was start and stop--no flow--I felt the same. I like Herbert--he could have had 100--and I thought Fields ran about as much as I'd want and did it better/smarter than before.

He needs to gain a little cred to be able to call timeouts I guess.
The only bright spot is I don't think I see the cutler INT gene in him. Meaning, yes he's making rookie mistakes and he had a bad one vs. CIN. But since then no Cutler-ish type of INTs--which I think are not as fixable. I can't define them but I know them when I see them. For the INT he clearly thought he had a free play (so did I) on that long INT/touch-back. 50 yard throws that are INTs are not killers. Looks like he under threw it (out of bounds) on the 2nd near interception.

The refs were horrible and should be fired--don't get me wrong it didn't cost us the game--same outcome, maybe plus 4 for GB even but they missed a lot and over called stuff that wasn't there. I'm more worried that any of those guys are allowed to call an important game elsewhere. Actually the holding call that offset the helmet to helmet on Fields was the worst--it was a weak hold and a dumb cheap shot when he was sliding. And if they are truly going to protect QBs giving themselves up then it shouldn't offset.

I still have not changed my opinion on Nagy--I'd still like to go another direction. Lazor is competent but not sure he's the answer either. I expected to lose but not have them bang out 150 yards rushing on us. I think its a reality check for the Defense as well. If we do fire Nagy I want a CEO coach--who has systems and things he likes but is flexible and does not call plays at all.

As for Fields--he has promise and he needs work and we are seeing it right before our eyes. My only hope is we see improvement.
He had a good late drive and was doing OK on the last one before he got sacked.
As the great Yoda once said "much to learn you still have."
Whether we like it or not we know Rodgers is a full blown Sith lord and Fields is just a padawan.

[chicagoballer]

Have the bears players responded to Rodgers comments? I haven’t seen anything. It reflects more of them than anyone. Someone just said they are your daddy on national TV.

I would be itching to destroy them next time we play in December

[Shill]

The last two playoff spots are going to come down to the following:

Bears
Vikings
Panthers
Saints

Clear favorite games: SF, Pittsburgh, Giants and the Lions
Tossup Games: Minny 2x, Seattle
Heavy Underdog Games: TB. GB. Arizona, Baltimore

Seattle might tank because they're terrible without Russ and this is a great chance to get a top pick but that's a decent season, especially when you're starting a rookie QB.

Interesting because that's how 49er fans feel about the Bears.

[Susan]

The last two playoff spots are going to come down to the following:

Bears
Vikings
Panthers
Saints

Clear favorite games: SF, Pittsburgh, Giants and the Lions
Tossup Games: Minny 2x, Seattle
Heavy Underdog Games: TB. GB. Arizona, Baltimore

Seattle might tank because they're terrible without Russ and this is a great chance to get a top pick but that's a decent season, especially when you're starting a rookie QB.

Interesting because that's how 49er fans feel about the Bears.

We'll see.

Both teams beat the Lions, the Bears have beaten the Bengals and Raiders (both playoff teams in AFC currently) and the Niners beat the Eagles. Niners should beat the Colts and we're gunna get thumped by the Bucs,

I'd say the Bengals here and Oakland on the road are tougher tests than the Niners here but who knows! Might have two rookies out there.

[Dresden]

SF and CHI in very similar situations. Both drafted new QB's this year. Both veterans QB's are injured. In both cities, fans are clamoring for the rookies to play. Both have good defenses. SF was projected to do much better this year though. And both have coaches that are supposed to be offensive geniuses, and both fan bases now think both coaches are frauds that only want to prove how smart they are by running tricked up offenses. And yes, fans and media here are viewing the Bears game as very winnable. I would bet on the 49'ers.

[Dresden]

I would not call the PITT game as an easy win either. THey beat SEA yesterday.

[JohnnyTapwater]

When are we gonna hire Brian Daboll?