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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1141 » by fleet » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:26 pm

I honestly don't worry about this activity, or his case. That is for his accountant and PJ to worry about. I want his game to come around, and for his mental approach on the court to get healthy again.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1142 » by Concept Coop » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:27 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
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BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Did this idiot really just come out and say he did have group sex with her??

How did his lawyers agree for him to do this?? If they didn't and he did it on his own then he really is a idiot

4 years ago I would of never thought this would be the Rose today...sad..Yes im a dude but I don't find group sex cool,in fact I think its pretty nasty...just smh with this kid


Im not understanding, so youre suggesting that he should have lied?

Sexual relationships are a private matter and most, if not all athletes run through women at an alarming rate. They're young and mostly single millionaires. It takes nothing for them to get a woman. Rose is not the first idolized NBA player or Chicago Bull to run a train on a woman.

Or wait to the case is over

But either way the whole group sex thing is nasty....stay classy Saint Rose and I don't care if he not the first player to ever do it cuz same goes for them


Who are you to judge the sexual desires or practices of others? Assuming it's consensual and doesn't hurt anybody--let's be better than that.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1143 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:29 pm

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Im not understanding, so youre suggesting that he should have lied?

Sexual relationships are a private matter and most, if not all athletes run through women at an alarming rate. They're young and mostly single millionaires. It takes nothing for them to get a woman. Rose is not the first idolized NBA player or Chicago Bull to run a train on a woman.

Or wait to the case is over

But either way the whole group sex thing is nasty....stay classy Saint Rose and I don't care if he not the first player to ever do it cuz same goes for them


Who are you to judge the sexual desires or practices of others? Assuming it's consensual and doesn't hurt anybody--let's be better than that.

Oh lord :lol:
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1144 » by Red Larrivee » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:29 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:People defend Rose for anything here...its pathetic lmao

Hopefully this jackass can give us a good 2 seasons thats the least he can do for us but im done talking about it since people have a reason to defend him for anything..."who cares if he ran a train on a girl Nba stars do it everyday" LMAO I CANT

Yeah I have friends that have done the say group sex thing and then bragged about it and my response every time is "That **** is nasty" ain't nothing cool about it and aint nothing to brag about it


The point is that criticizing an athlete for having different sexual practices than you is egregious. Sex is a private matter and the things that can be done are graphic and not a reflection of someone's character. Why is he a bad person for having group sex? Why is Paul George a bad person for boning a stripper? The complaints about Rose here are becoming irrational and desperate.

If an athlete actually raped a woman, then that's obviously different.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1145 » by League Circles » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:29 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
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BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Or wait to the case is over


Dude, he didn't talk to TMZ about it. It's in the official legal response to the complaint against him that his lawyers wrote and submitted. Do you have a legal opinion on how they're handling his case?

Ok then my bad

Regardless my whole stance still stands about the group sex thing being nasty and people are still defending this kid for everything he does..."its because he's not very bright he don't know how to speak" and now "NBA stars have orgies and run trains on girls all the time" What is next? :lol:


You think it's nasty. Others don't. It's as simple as that. I think running a train is gross too but it's definitely not clear that that's what happened. She might have just had individual sexual contact with him and a couple of his friends in succession.

Someone can defend him for consensual sex acts without being desperate to defend him for anything. It may just be that those people don't object to group sex like you do, or that they don't believe he necessarily acted "nastily".
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1146 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:30 pm

fleet wrote:I honestly don't worry about this activity, or his case. That is for his accountant and PJ to worry about. I want his game to come around, and for his mental approach on the court to get healthy again.

Yeah its a dead subject for me at this point,ain't no winning this battle like I said hopefully he can give us 2 good seasons from a basketball point of view...the least he can do
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OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1147 » by RSCD3_ » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:31 pm

Rose has the right to be a pervert.
He can run as many trains with as many of his friends as he wants as long as the women consent.

Also a lot of poly sexual relations are becoming things. Maybe that was his girlfriend and rose just has other men simultaneously have sex with her at the same time.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1148 » by Concept Coop » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:32 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Concept Coop wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Or wait to the case is over

But either way the whole group sex thing is nasty....stay classy Saint Rose and I don't care if he not the first player to ever do it cuz same goes for them


Who are you to judge the sexual desires or practices of others? Assuming it's consensual and doesn't hurt anybody--let's be better than that.

Oh lord :lol:


Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1149 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:33 pm

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Dude, he didn't talk to TMZ about it. It's in the official legal response to the complaint against him that his lawyers wrote and submitted. Do you have a legal opinion on how they're handling his case?

Ok then my bad

Regardless my whole stance still stands about the group sex thing being nasty and people are still defending this kid for everything he does..."its because he's not very bright he don't know how to speak" and now "NBA stars have orgies and run trains on girls all the time" What is next? :lol:


You think it's nasty. Others don't. It's as simple as that. I think running a train is gross too but it's definitely not clear that that's what happened. She might have just had individual sexual contact with him and a couple of his friends in succession.

Someone can defend him for consensual sex acts without being desperate to defend him for anything. It may just be that those people don't object to group sex like you do, or that they don't believe he necessarily acted "nastily".

They can but I am the one being attacked here for saying its nasty,posters jumped on me first for me saying HOW I FEEL about group sex/trains being ran on people which I then defended myself
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1150 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:35 pm

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Who are you to judge the sexual desires or practices of others? Assuming it's consensual and doesn't hurt anybody--let's be better than that.

Oh lord :lol:


Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1151 » by Red Larrivee » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:39 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Concept Coop wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Oh lord


Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?


If you think it's disgusting, you're entitled to believe so. To criticize Rose for it and not upholding some naive image is irrational.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1152 » by Concept Coop » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:45 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
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BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Oh lord :lol:


Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?


You said group sex is disgusting. To exclaim that on a public forum like this--yes, it's ignorant. You've called a portion of this board disgusting and suggested them classless based on their practice or interest in sex that is different than what you like.

I have no interest in having sex with antoher man, but I know better than to go around calling it nasty and classless. I don't enjoy the idea of the average couple having sex--but I don't call it nasty or classless. I'm in an interracial relationship and I'd be personally offended if anyone called interracial sex nasty. Or anything else I do behind closed doors, really.

When you start defining yourself by what you are not, and feel enough about it to proclaim it negative, it's time to take a step back and evaluate.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1153 » by reppin_the_847 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:48 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:
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BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Did this idiot really just come out and say he did have group sex with her??

How did his lawyers agree for him to do this?? If they didn't and he did it on his own then he really is a idiot

4 years ago I would of never thought this would be the Rose today...sad..Yes im a dude but I don't find group sex cool,in fact I think its pretty nasty...just smh with this kid


Im not understanding, so youre suggesting that he should have lied?

Sexual relationships are a private matter and most, if not all athletes run through women at an alarming rate. They're young and mostly single millionaires. It takes nothing for them to get a woman. Rose is not the first idolized NBA player or Chicago Bull to run a train on a woman.


But it was a humble train


LMAO!!! Thomas the Tank perhaps?
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1154 » by Concept Coop » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:49 pm

There's a difference between something not being for you and it being nasty (or otherwise wrong). History shows that it's damaging when people can't separate that. You can not find it appealing without damning those who do.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1155 » by Keller61 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:58 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Concept Coop wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Oh lord :lol:


Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?


You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1156 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Keller61 wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Concept Coop wrote:
Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?


You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.

Alright fine

It just upsets because Rose use to be one of my favorite players with how humble the man use to be,I just would of never expected the things that I have been hearing and seeing from him these past 3 years,its pretty sad and angering

This guy is gone IMO

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*Yes this is what I THINK others might think this Rose ain't gone so hopefully I don't get bashed for it
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1157 » by RememberLu » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:24 pm

BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Gar Paxdorf wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Or wait to the case is over


Dude, he didn't talk to TMZ about it. It's in the official legal response to the complaint against him that his lawyers wrote and submitted. Do you have a legal opinion on how they're handling his case?

Ok then my bad

Regardless my whole stance still stands about the group sex thing being nasty and people are still defending this kid for everything he does..."its because he's not very bright he don't know how to speak" and now "NBA stars have orgies and run trains on girls all the time" What is next? :lol:


You're right that some people will defend rose for anything. I used to be one of those people but he's worn thin on me. I refuse to Homer this guy any more. All I want him to do is DO YOUR JOB, as Thibs would say.
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Re: RE: Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1158 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:32 pm

RememberLu wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Gar Paxdorf wrote:
Dude, he didn't talk to TMZ about it. It's in the official legal response to the complaint against him that his lawyers wrote and submitted. Do you have a legal opinion on how they're handling his case?

Ok then my bad

Regardless my whole stance still stands about the group sex thing being nasty and people are still defending this kid for everything he does..."its because he's not very bright he don't know how to speak" and now "NBA stars have orgies and run trains on girls all the time" What is next? :lol:


You're right that some people will defend rose for anything. I used to be one of those people but he's worn thin on me. I refuse to Homer this guy any more. All I want him to do is DO YOUR JOB, as Thibs would say.

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Post#1159 » by Peelboy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:38 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:
Concept Coop wrote:
Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?


If you think it's disgusting, you're entitled to believe so. To criticize Rose for it and not upholding some naive image is irrational.


Let's just step back for a second. It's well acknowledged that numerous NBA stars basically grab whatever woman/groupie is around postgame and have sex. Harden, Howard, Kobe, Wade, off the top of my head. That in general is viewed with a minor headshake and a "well that's how they are."

Now I haven't seen Rose discussed in that way. Instead, he seems to like fewer girls but group sex. Is that really any more "disgusting" or "disturbing" or "immoral" than sleeping with tens to hundreds of different women on a near daily-basis? Is that any "weirder" than Doug Christie's or AC Green's habits when they were pros?

Behaviour between consenting adults is and should be meaningless. The only issue here IMO is the consent issue.

EDIT: Criticism for his FA comments while naive IMO are obviously different. Getting upset because he gets hurt a lot or his play has slipped are fully warranted. But this whole sex thing and the puritanical finger-wagging? GMAFB.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#1160 » by ptpablo » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:39 pm

What other home town athlete has slowly disengaged his once homer-istic, never-wavering fans by making dumb decision after dumb decision in different aspects of his life after such an amazing start? I hope he balls out this season so we all like him again.

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