Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Wentz looked unplayable last year. Some of the ugliest overthrows and incompletions you’ll see. Led the league in interceptions.

Trubisky had better stats than him in every conceivable way.

The idea that the Bears would give up significant assets for him is a new kind of horror.

We have no idea what they're giving up and since the SB win, Philly has been terrible.

Pederson was propped up by Reich & the rest of his coaching staff and they've got terrible weapons on that team.

Wentz is huge, fast, smart and has a good arm. He's Mitch but bigger, faster, stronger and smarter. They probably have similar arm talent but Mitch is without a doubt mentally slower than Wentz. Mitch is probably the easier guy to get along with but Wentz is really a supreme talent phyiscally.

This doesn’t mean anything. Throwing together a bunch of random adjectives for a guy whose production was so utterly pathetic holds no value.

But I guess it was everyone else’s fault.

Philly had got to be laughing their asses off that not only do they get to dump this contract and player, but they’re getting assets back to do it. What a joke.

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[MisterRoy]

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May force them to lower their asking price but shoot, go get Watson, Pace! Don't settle for another Eagles QB!!!


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[fleet]

The best course of action *now*, given our situation, is to just ride it out best you can with Foles and work the draft. Its really all you can do if you are a team planted on solid ground moving forward. Again, McCaskey has screwed everything up by going status quo on the FO and coaching staff. Now the pressure is on to do something boneheaded.

[Jcool0]

Bears will do the exact opposite.

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[Chicago-Bull-E]

The best course of action *now*, given our situation, is to just ride it out best you can with Foles and work the draft. Its really all you can do if you are a team planted on solid ground moving forward. Again, McCaskey has screwed everything up by going status quo on the FO and coaching staff. Now the pressure is on to do something boneheaded.

Yup. I would much rather get Trask in the 2nd round (and I don’t even like Trask), Oline in the 1st, and run it back with Foles and Trask than give up major draft capital for Wentz.

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May force them to lower their asking price but shoot, go get Watson, Pace! Don't settle for another Eagles QB!!!


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Imagine a world where Chicago had a knowledgeable Bears FO that knew what they were doing and/or listened to experienced successful people like John Fox and just went ahead and drafted him. Hiring the hotshot names, out of the box thinkers and unaccomplished assistants is for smarter outfits to execute. The Bears need proven decision makers and coaches badly.

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[Susan]

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May force them to lower their asking price but shoot, go get Watson, Pace! Don't settle for another Eagles QB!!!


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Imagine a world where Chicago had a knowledgeable Bears FO that knew what they were doing and/or listened to experienced successful people like John Fox and just went ahead and drafted him. Hiring the hotshot names, out of the box thinkers and unaccomplished assistants is for smarter outfits to execute. The Bears need proven decision makers and coaches badly.

Explain the Bears record over the past 3 years.

And how is John Fox doing since leaving the Bears? He was 13-34 while he was here, Nagy's 28-20.

[patryk7754]

I think we’re in pretty good shape if we acquire wentz. He’s had one bad season and it was a dumpster fire of a season for the whole team where all his weapons were injured and his oline was one of the worst. With that being said his trade value is crazy low so if a package comes close to what stafford got pace needs to be fired immediately. Two thirds is what I’d say his value is but would be ok with a 2nd. No way a first should be included

[MisterRoy]

I think we’re in pretty good shape if we acquire wentz. He’s had one bad season and it was a dumpster fire of a season for the whole team where all his weapons were injured and his oline was one of the worst. With that being said his trade value is crazy low so if a package comes close to what stafford got pace needs to be fired immediately. Two thirds is what I’d say his value is but would be ok with a 2nd. No way a first should be included

Wentz gets hurt too easily. Enough with Chicago sports and injured players. Go. Get. Watson. Pace needs to right the wrong.


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[patryk7754]

Two 1sts, two 2nds, fuller, Quinn, foles, and Miller for Watson.

[MisterRoy]

Two 1sts, two 2nds, fuller, Quinn, foles, and Miller for Watson.

Yikes!


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[CjayC]

We don't have the firepower to acquire Watson. Why would they deal him to the Bears who are average in a down year, and probably a + team in a good year when you can trade him to the perpetual bottom feeding Jets or making a calculated gamble in trading him to the 49ers who are in a stacked division?

[patryk7754]

We don't have the firepower to acquire Watson. Why would they deal him to the Bears who are average in a down year, and probably a + team in a good year when you can trade him to the perpetual bottom feeding Jets or making a calculated gamble in trading him to the 49ers who are in a stacked division?

If he goes to the 49ers they’ll three peat

[Susan]

Wentz looked unplayable last year. Some of the ugliest overthrows and incompletions you’ll see. Led the league in interceptions.

Trubisky had better stats than him in every conceivable way.

The idea that the Bears would give up significant assets for him is a new kind of horror.

We have no idea what they're giving up and since the SB win, Philly has been terrible.

Pederson was propped up by Reich & the rest of his coaching staff and they've got terrible weapons on that team.

Wentz is huge, fast, smart and has a good arm. He's Mitch but bigger, faster, stronger and smarter. They probably have similar arm talent but Mitch is without a doubt mentally slower than Wentz. Mitch is probably the easier guy to get along with but Wentz is really a supreme talent phyiscally.

This doesn’t mean anything. Throwing together a bunch of random adjectives for a guy whose production was so utterly pathetic holds no value.

But I guess it was everyone else’s fault.

Philly had got to be laughing their asses off that not only do they get to dump this contract and player, but they’re getting assets back to do it. What a joke.

HIs production was terrible last year, no doubt. Ertz, Geodert and Myles Sanders all missed decent chunks of time with Wentz in there and their WR grouping was without a doubt the worst in the NFL.

He was 11th in QBR in 2019, 12th in 2018 and 1st in 2017. Watson was (13th in 18, 7th in 19 and 12th in 2020) for reference.

Is he toast,potentially but if he's not and he gets back to his 2017-19 form, he's a top 10 QB at a value contract. If he's toast, there's an out in his contract either next offseason or the following offseason so it's not a contract that is going to hinder you longterm.

His physical and mental gifts are 100% relevant to the discussion. How much the Bears (or whatever team trades for him) give up and his personality are 100% relevant to the discussion as well.

[nomorezorro]

i wouldn't care about giving up like...a third for wentz. giving up a first, let alone multiple firsts, would be lunacy.

it's hard to fight the thought process of "if he can just get back to being a top-12 qb, that's a pretty good asset to have." but based on what i've read, there's a lot of reason to think that he's always going to struggle with accuracy and turnovers. it seems like the other half of his problems is that he's losing his feel for the game, which can be chalked up to a combination of factors, including the effects of the acl injury, deteriorating line play in philly and changing coaching situations.

it seems like the best thing you could do to maximize wentz is put a great offensive line in front of him, and, well...don't expect him to get that in chicago

[Chi town]

I think we’re in pretty good shape if we acquire wentz. He’s had one bad season and it was a dumpster fire of a season for the whole team where all his weapons were injured and his oline was one of the worst. With that being said his trade value is crazy low so if a package comes close to what stafford got pace needs to be fired immediately. Two thirds is what I’d say his value is but would be ok with a 2nd. No way a first should be included

This is where I’m at too. No 1st.

I only go after Wentz if Watson is gone though. I think Watson will pick his team and Texans hand will be somewhat forced.

I’d rather just draft a QB then overpay for Wentz or Carr

[CjayC]

We don't have the firepower to acquire Watson. Why would they deal him to the Bears who are average in a down year, and probably a + team in a good year when you can trade him to the perpetual bottom feeding Jets or making a calculated gamble in trading him to the 49ers who are in a stacked division?

If he goes to the 49ers they’ll three peat

Maybe, maybe not. No doubt they're gonna get better. I'm still taking the odds that the Niners will be worse in a division with Wilson, Murray, and Stafford, versus Rodgers, Cousins, and Goff.

[Susan]

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