OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF

[HomoSapien]

For whatever reason, if Rose is admitting to having group sex with his girlfriend + his homies, then I'm starting to lean with the 'oh ****, he raped her' camp. I have no idea why I think that, but there's just something off to me about that. I don't buy that they had a consentual Devil's Threesome.

Which party wouldn't have the consensual threesome?

The girl. Obviously Rose isn't accusing anyone of raping him.

And I guess it's actually a foursome. I just find it hard to believe that any self-respecting man would want to **** his girlfriend with two of his boys. Obviously I'm not going on anything besides a gut feeling here, but it just feels really off to me.

[LLJ]

For whatever reason, if Rose is admitting to having group sex with his girlfriend + his homies, then I'm starting to lean with the 'oh ****, he raped her' camp. I have no idea why I think that, but there's just something off to me about that. I don't buy that they had a consentual Devil's Threesome.

Which party wouldn't have the consensual threesome?

The girl. Obviously Rose isn't accusing anyone of raping him.

And I guess it's actually a foursome. I just find it hard to believe that any self-respecting man would want to **** his girlfriend with two of his boys. Obviously I'm not going on anything besides a gut feeling here, but it just feels really off to me.

Don't blame you. Up here in Canada, disgraced CBC radio host Jian Ghomeshi initially tried to argue that he and his date were having consensual S&M instead of rape. But when more accusers came to speak out on him, he couldn't hide behind that argument anymore.

EDIT: Sorry, thought this thread was on the general board. Apologies.

[RedBulls23]

For whatever reason, if Rose is admitting to having group sex with his girlfriend + his homies, then I'm starting to lean with the 'oh ****, he raped her' camp. I have no idea why I think that, but there's just something off to me about that. I don't buy that they had a consentual Devil's Threesome.

Which party wouldn't have the consensual threesome?

The girl. Obviously Rose isn't accusing anyone of raping him.

And I guess it's actually a foursome. I just find it hard to believe that any self-respecting man would want to **** his girlfriend with two of his boys. Obviously I'm not going on anything besides a gut feeling here, but it just feels really off to me.

Eh, there are many guys that get into having their significant others being banged by other guys, while they are there as well. People are just into weird ****. It is what it is.

And there are plenty of women that get into being with multiple guys at once as well.

[johnnyvann840]

It just upsets because Rose use to be one of my favorite players with how humble the man use to be,I just would of never expected the things that I have been hearing and seeing from him these past 3 years,its pretty sad and angering

This guy is gone IMO

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Watching those old interviews to the interviews he does today and the difference is really depressing

*Yes this is what I THINK others might think this Rose ain't gone so hopefully I don't get bashed for it

I know what you mean. It was the end of the innocence.

But, honestly, I couldn't care less what he does in the bedroom, as long as it's consensual. As gross as the thought of having sex with the same woman as a bunch of other men is, what is sad is that since that MVP speech he has missed over 2/3rds of the Bulls games and been very sub par for everything since the fantastic play in 2011-12 prior to the ACL. But, since that speech it's been nothing but a slide into basketball obscurity. That needs to change this season before he can start thinking about a max deal from anyone.

[League Circles]

The girl. Obviously Rose isn't accusing anyone of raping him.

And I guess it's actually a foursome. I just find it hard to believe that any self-respecting man would want to **** his girlfriend with two of his boys. Obviously I'm not going on anything besides a gut feeling here, but it just feels really off to me.

She almost certainly was not his "girlfriend" or anything we'd remotely think of as that. These guys do some Eyes Wide Shut **** on the reg I think. She was just a prop. Once she was utilized, she was discarded. She didn't like that and lashed back. At least that's what seems to be a huge possibility and is Rose's story. There's no reason to think Rose ever cared anything about this girl, really.

[pb-ceo]

Dude, he didn't talk to TMZ about it. It's in the official legal response to the complaint against him that his lawyers wrote and submitted. Do you have a legal opinion on how they're handling his case?

Ok then my bad

Regardless my whole stance still stands about the group sex thing being nasty and people are still defending this kid for everything he does..."its because he's not very bright he don't know how to speak" and now "NBA stars have orgies and run trains on girls all the time" What is next?

You're right that some people will defend rose for anything. I used to be one of those people but he's worn thin on me. I refuse to Homer this guy any more. All I want him to do is DO YOUR JOB, as Thibs would say.

so true. there are people who defend anything he does, and anything he says. simply because he's the "hometown kid". I don't care what he does behind closed doors. but I think what we all have to admit now is he had one of the most carefully "crafted" public images in the nba. but there is soooo much evidence now that suggests he is not of that image.

[League Circles]

so true. there are people who defend anything he does, and anything he says. simply because he's the "hometown kid". I don't care what he does behind closed doors. but I think what we all have to admit now is he had one of the most carefully "crafted" public images in the nba. but there is soooo much evidence now that suggests he is not of that image.

FWIW, I defend most of what he does because I genuinely like the guy. I know, it's a weird concept to like the members of the team you root for. I'm not from Chicago nor do I live there so it's never been anything about him being a hometown kid for me. I also never liked him for the reasons that apparently others may have, such as humility (that was never appealing to me and I never saw him as really humble).

I always have just liked his quiet swagger. The clutch play, the cold demeanor. The not dancing with Lebron. The support of and from teammates and coaches. I basically just like him a lot genuinely because of who he seems to be to me, which is apparently not the same as others have thought he is. It's like they're mad because they were tricked. I was never tricked, and liked the real him all along.

[Zenith]

Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You said group sex is disgusting. To exclaim that on a public forum like this--yes, it's ignorant. You've called a portion of this board disgusting and suggested them classless based on their practice or interest in sex that is different than what you like.

I have no interest in having sex with antoher man, but I know better than to go around calling it nasty and classless. I don't enjoy the idea of the average couple having sex--but I don't call it nasty or classless. I'm in an interracial relationship and I'd be personally offended if anyone called interracial sex nasty. Or anything else I do behind closed doors, really.

When you start defining yourself by what you are not, and feel enough about it to proclaim it negative, it's time to take a step back and evaluate.

This right here is how you check someone's privilege, nice work bro.

[Keller61]

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.

Alright fine

It just upsets because Rose use to be one of my favorite players with how humble the man use to be,I just would of never expected the things that I have been hearing and seeing from him these past 3 years,its pretty sad and angering

This guy is gone IMO

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Watching those old interviews to the interviews he does today and the difference is really depressing

*Yes this is what I THINK others might think this Rose ain't gone so hopefully I don't get bashed for it

No doubt he has changed in some ways. He is certainly more cautious with injuries (understandably so). He used to constantly downplay his accomplishments and talk about needing to get better; now he defiantly proclaims his greatness, perhaps in a defensive backlash to the onslaught of criticism. He also has a son in his life now, so maybe basketball isn't the one thing always on his mind anymore.

Other than that, I think he's still the same guy in terms of being a hard-worker who does whatever he can to get healthy and improve, a competitor who wants to prove he's the best, a great teammate who encourages and praises others, an unselfish player who just wants to win and doesn't think about his stats, a good person in terms of giving back to the community, etc.

In regards to those two videos, I'm sure he still loves and appreciates his mom, and I don't see "why can't I be MVP" as all that different from "why I can't I prove that I deserve another max contract". The main difference over the past couple of years is that he has had to answer so many questions on non-basketball subjects that he never had to answer before, and he's not good at that. When you just listen to him talk about basketball and his teammates, though, I don't think he's changed that much.

Of course, his sexual preferences have nothing to do with any of this.

[LoveDaBoo]

Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You said group sex is disgusting. To exclaim that on a public forum like this--yes, it's ignorant. You've called a portion of this board disgusting and suggested them classless based on their practice or interest in sex that is different than what you like.

I have no interest in having sex with antoher man, but I know better than to go around calling it nasty and classless. I don't enjoy the idea of the average couple having sex--but I don't call it nasty or classless. I'm in an interracial relationship and I'd be personally offended if anyone called interracial sex nasty. Or anything else I do behind closed doors, really.

When you start defining yourself by what you are not, and feel enough about it to proclaim it negative, it's time to take a step back and evaluate.

It's called "sloppy" seconds for a reason, man. Try to imagine why.

[Repeat 3-peat]

We get it, some of you aren't fans of group sex.

So calm down and move on.

[NYKAL]

The girl. Obviously Rose isn't accusing anyone of raping him.

And I guess it's actually a foursome. I just find it hard to believe that any self-respecting man would want to **** his girlfriend with two of his boys. Obviously I'm not going on anything besides a gut feeling here, but it just feels really off to me.

She almost certainly was not his "girlfriend" or anything we'd remotely think of as that. These guys do some Eyes Wide Shut **** on the reg I think. She was just a prop. Once she was utilized, she was discarded. She didn't like that and lashed back. At least that's what seems to be a huge possibility and is Rose's story. There's no reason to think Rose ever cared anything about this girl, really.

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[JohnnyKILLroy]

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You said group sex is disgusting. To exclaim that on a public forum like this--yes, it's ignorant. You've called a portion of this board disgusting and suggested them classless based on their practice or interest in sex that is different than what you like.

I have no interest in having sex with antoher man, but I know better than to go around calling it nasty and classless. I don't enjoy the idea of the average couple having sex--but I don't call it nasty or classless. I'm in an interracial relationship and I'd be personally offended if anyone called interracial sex nasty. Or anything else I do behind closed doors, really.

When you start defining yourself by what you are not, and feel enough about it to proclaim it negative, it's time to take a step back and evaluate.

It's called "sloppy" seconds for a reason, man. Try to imagine why.

Not if you go first.

[ChosunX]

so true. there are people who defend anything he does, and anything he says. simply because he's the "hometown kid". I don't care what he does behind closed doors. but I think what we all have to admit now is he had one of the most carefully "crafted" public images in the nba. but there is soooo much evidence now that suggests he is not of that image.

FWIW, I defend most of what he does because I genuinely like the guy. I know, it's a weird concept to like the members of the team you root for. I'm not from Chicago nor do I live there so it's never been anything about him being a hometown kid for me. I also never liked him for the reasons that apparently others may have, such as humility (that was never appealing to me and I never saw him as really humble).

As a bball player how can you be humble? It's not soccer when you run around with 11 guys and scoring happens rarely and it's damn hard to get a good ''shooting position''. It's not movie making where there are a ton of factors contributing, the standards are very clear unlike in let's say being architect where i assume there are a ton of niches. You are going up against the best in a very closed profession with few professionals and 5 man on the floor where 1 man has huge impact. You can be quiet or loud but if you are really good you cannot explain it away.

[Hangtime84]

Seriously. It's 2015. We're still judging people based on what they do behind closed doors? Or their sexual drive or desires--as if that's something we all weigh and sign up for.

I know it's an internet forum, so lol all you want. But it's ignorant.

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.

What Derrick Rose brand is based upon was a quiet humble good mannered kid.

Between the gang sign photo and group sexing.

I think those two things hurt his brand in my opinion and can no longer be that.

For me what Derrick has made a big impact on was the why can't I be the MVP press interview.

[Hangtime84]

We get it, some of you aren't fans of group sex.

So calm down and move on.

One of old friends in high school used to say " Your boy isn't your boy until you run a train together."

I declined, but I could understand the bond that could create.

[Keller61]

So for me to think group sex/running a train on a girl is disgusting, is ignorant?

You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.

What Derrick Rose brand is based upon was a quiet humble good mannered kid.

Between the gang sign photo and group sexing.

I think those two things hurt his brand in my opinion and can no longer be that.

For me what Derrick has made a big impact on was the why can't I be the MVP press interview.

Can he not be a quiet, humble, good-mannered kid who happens to privately enjoy group sex?

[ChosunX]

You can personally think it's disgusting, but still recognize that other people have different opinions and desires than you do. I think Taco Bell is disgusting, but if you like Taco Bell that's fine with me. So long as what he did was consensual and not harmful, I don't see what the problem is. What he likes to do in the bedroom is his private business and has no bearing on his character as a person.

What Derrick Rose brand is based upon was a quiet humble good mannered kid.

Between the gang sign photo and group sexing.

I think those two things hurt his brand in my opinion and can no longer be that.

For me what Derrick has made a big impact on was the why can't I be the MVP press interview.

Can he not be a quiet, humble, good-mannered kid who happens to privately enjoy group sex?

Hell yeah, it's the new world out there. Some nerds already have screenshots saved of the future top CEO's and senators dirty laundry from social media. This will considered tame by the standards of the 2060 Senate. Everyone is a racist, everyone is sexist, everyone is a sexual deviant... etc.

[pb-ceo]

What's going on with this case? Rose is admitting to having a devil's 3some now? Group sex with 3 other dudes, really?

Wow, his clean cut image has really eroded over the years. To say the least.

I don't think that the sexual activities that he and other consenting adults choose to participate in should have anything to do with his image. That's their private business. Enough with the homophobia already. Rose clearly needs to be more careful about who he has relations with, as he admitted, but let's not go judging people by what they do in the bedroom. Nothing says you can't be a good person if you happen to enjoy an occasional threesome.

well it used to be their private business. he doesn't have the best judgement in the world does he?

[ChosunX]

What's going on with this case? Rose is admitting to having a devil's 3some now? Group sex with 3 other dudes, really?

Wow, his clean cut image has really eroded over the years. To say the least.

I don't think that the sexual activities that he and other consenting adults choose to participate in should have anything to do with his image. That's their private business. Enough with the homophobia already. Rose clearly needs to be more careful about who he has relations with, as he admitted, but let's not go judging people by what they do in the bedroom. Nothing says you can't be a good person if you happen to enjoy an occasional threesome.

well it used to be their private business. he doesn't have the best judgement in the world does he?

He is not known for his bedroom acrobatics, people will forget it in a month.