Official: Jimmy Butler, #16 to Minnesota for Lavine, Dunn, #7 - merged/Justin Patton injured

[Rerisen]

Timberfolves fan here (and Bears fan, so I feel your pain ), coming in peace to tell you a bit more about Zach LaVine and Kris Dunn.

Can you offer any insight as to Zach's assists per minute declining each year?

Ast per 36:

2015: 5.2
2016: 3.9
2017: 2.9

[ryannik09]

2017-2018 season - 26-56, coach and front office still stay the same and say they have a plan, Reinsdork say he loves the fans and please stay patient. Still filling the UC with suckers no matter the record. This team is officially neck and neck with the Bears as the biggest Chicago jokes and one of the biggest train wrecks in all of sports. Puke

Nothing will change so long as fans keep coming out, but ratings are down, and I bet attendance is soon to follow.

Most nights of the season you just want to watch a good basketball game where your team has a fair chance to win. And be entertained for 2.5 hours. I'm not thinking about Banner #7 in the middle of some February mid-season game.

That nightly interest is pretty much gone, likely for several years. We are going to lose and lose a ton. And unless you have some young MJ type phenom doing amazing things to help stomach all those losses - and we don't - I find it hard to believe so many people are watching random game #25 of the season and thinking about how close their team is to a title regardless if they win or lose. Or that we somehow now have a 'path to a title' because of how hard we now stink, that make all the drubbings interesting.

They've just turned the nightly product to crap.

Canceled my season tickets a few weeks ago. Told them if Hoiberg, Gar and Paxson were gone I'd reconsider. They said "we've been hearing that a lot this summer" the UC is going to be a ghost town

[Jax Teller]

As bad as this trade is the press conference tomorrow will be sickening, truly sickening. Gloating over garbage, preaching patience, saying they have a plan. It will be disgusting and no, I will not be watching. Also will not be watching this team.

[ArizonaBullsFan]

Timberfolves fan here (and Bears fan, so I feel your pain ), coming in peace to tell you a bit more about Zach LaVine and Kris Dunn.

Can you offer any insight as to Zach's assists per minute declining each year?

Ast per 36:

2015: 5.2
2016: 3.9
2017: 2.9

I'd say because he has played less and less PG as he's matured:

Minutes at each position:
2014-15: 94% PG, 6% SG
2015-16: 35% PG, 65% SG
2016-17: 0% PG, 99% SG, 1% SF

[musiqsoulchild]

2017-2018 season - 26-56, coach and front office still stay the same and say they have a plan, Reinsdork say he loves the fans and please stay patient. Still filling the UC with suckers no matter the record. This team is officially neck and neck with the Bears as the biggest Chicago jokes and one of the biggest train wrecks in all of sports. Puke

Nothing will change so long as fans keep coming out, but ratings are down, and I bet attendance is soon to follow.

Most nights of the season you just want to watch a good basketball game where your team has a fair chance to win. And be entertained for 2.5 hours. I'm not thinking about Banner #7 in the middle of some February mid-season game.

That nightly interest is pretty much gone, likely for several years. We are going to lose and lose a ton. And unless you have some young MJ type phenom doing amazing things to help stomach all those losses - and we don't - I find it hard to believe so many people are watching random game #25 of the season and thinking about how close their team is to a title regardless if they win or lose. Or that we somehow now have a 'path to a title' because of how hard we now stink, that make all the drubbings interesting.

They've just turned the nightly product to crap.

Canceled my season tickets a few weeks ago. Told them if Hoiberg, Gar and Paxson were gone I'd reconsider. They said "we've been hearing that a lot this summer" the UC is going to be a ghost town

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More power to you mate! This is exactly how you do it. I cancelled mine 5 years ago.

I match ownerships direction with my wallet. Thats the most we can do.

[DASMACKDOWN]

Well at least we got Jordan Bell

[Maefteda]

Timberfolves fan here (and Bears fan, so I feel your pain ), coming in peace to tell you a bit more about Zach LaVine and Kris Dunn.

Can you offer any insight as to Zach's assists per minute declining each year?

Ast per 36:

2015: 5.2
2016: 3.9
2017: 2.9

I'd say because he has played less and less PG as he's matured:

Minutes at each position:
2014-15: 94% PG, 6% SG
2015-16: 35% PG, 65% SG
2016-17: 0% PG, 99% SG, 1% SF

Yup, pretty much hits the nail on the head. Thibs ran a lot through Towns and Wiggins as well, so Zach was more of a spot up guy who bailed us out in the last few seconds.

[DASMACKDOWN]

OH wait we just traded that pick to Golden St....for who?

[Ctownbulls]

If GarPax were a stockbroker we would all be bankrupt. They just turned the covered Sacramento pick we have been waiting years for into nothing.

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[My Main Man]

Timberfolves fan here (and Bears fan, so I feel your pain ), coming in peace to tell you a bit more about Zach LaVine and Kris Dunn.

Can you offer any insight as to Zach's assists per minute declining each year?

Ast per 36:

2015: 5.2
2016: 3.9
2017: 2.9

Wolves fan who comes in peace.

First off, assuming Lavine comes back from his ACL repair, which all appears good as of now, you're going to love him. To me, he should be your focal point of this trade. He's been getting better and better each year and his shot is phenomenal.

Regarding the assists/36, Flip was trying to play him as a PG his first season and then Sam Mitchell made the same mistake in his second season. Thibs finally realized what all of the fans saw and realized that he is a 2 through and through. He is not a 1 AT ALL. With Thibs, he was given the green light to shoot more and he excelled at it. With him shooting more, obviously his assist rate dropped a lot. It's nothing to worry about. He's the piece I'm going to miss the most on the Wolves. You got a good one.

As far as Dunn is concerned, he plays tough defense but makes really dumb mistakes on the offensive end. Rookie mistakes for sure. I'm guessing those will get fixed slowly and he'll become a well-rounded player. In the meantime, he'll be one of those players that posters on this board will argue about.

So yeah, I can't say you got the "best" package for an All-NBA/All-Star, but you all shouldn't be too down on this trade. For your sake, I hope the whole GarPax situation goes away sooner rather than later, but you got some decent pieces here.

Question for you guys: Are you planning on getting rid of Wade and Rondo? Seems like you should be in full on rebuild mode right now and those two need to go.

[Jax Teller]

OH wait we just traded that pick to Golden St....for who?

Probably for more euro trash

[DroseReturnChi]

Can you offer any insight as to Zach's assists per minute declining each year?

Ast per 36:

2015: 5.2
2016: 3.9
2017: 2.9

I'd say because he has played less and less PG as he's matured:

Minutes at each position:
2014-15: 94% PG, 6% SG
2015-16: 35% PG, 65% SG
2016-17: 0% PG, 99% SG, 1% SF

Yup, pretty much hits the nail on the head. Thibs ran a lot through Towns and Wiggins as well, so Zach was more of a spot up guy who bailed us out in the last few seconds.

So what is Zach lavine's value with 1 year remaining for this year's draft? (What pick would you trade him for this year?)
Any thoughts on how much will he command after next year?

[TankOverlord]

If GarPax were a stockbroker we would all be bankrupt. They just turned the covered Sacramento pick we have been waiting years for into nothing.

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And they turned the 30 pick into 5,7 and 13.

[WestsideResider]

OH wait we just traded that pick to Golden St....for who?

We got KD back I think

[Ctownbulls]

If GarPax were a stockbroker we would all be bankrupt. They just turned the covered Sacramento pick we have been waiting years for into nothing.

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And they turned the 30 pick into 5,7 and 13.

Lol

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[Jcool0]

OH wait we just traded that pick to Golden St....for who?

him:

[MGB8]

Well at least we got Jordan Bell

[patagonia]

The entire NBA thinks our FO is trash and now we just traded Bell to the Warriors for cash. Everyone is just going to hate us even more.

[WestsideResider]

This is probably the least hopeful any fanbase has ever been about a rebuild lol. We know what's up though.

[The Senator]

OH wait we just traded that pick to Golden St....for who?

Probably for more euro trash

Even better: they traded him for pure cash. Typical small team mentality in a big team market from our Bulls.