NBA Trade Thread

[Jimako10]

Guarantee the word "flexibility" will be said.

[Dresden]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

[GusFring]

a horrible team who can't ever sign good free agents does nothing before the trade deadline, I'm liking it.

[Dan Z]

What's the plan with Denzel Valentine? Does Boylen continue to sit him on the bench and he leaves after the season?

Did they try to trade him? Were there no offers? I know he's minor in the grand scheme, but was wondering.

[sco]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

I agree. We have zero idea what happens with Sato, Zach, Otto, Lauri, WCJ is even like healthy. Add developmental time for White, Hutch and Gafford and we'll be in a better place to rework things in the offseason.

[Dresden]

a horrible team who can't ever sign good free agents does nothing before the trade deadline, I'm liking it.

Last year, we picked up Otto Porter, which looked like a great move until he started getting hurt. Now most fans seem to think that was a terrible deal. So what's worse- doing nothing, or making a bad deal?

[Dan Z]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

I agree. We have zero idea what happens with Sato, Zach, Otto, Lauri, WCJ is even like healthy. Add developmental time for White, Hutch and Gafford and we'll be in a better place to rework things in the offseason.

I thought the Bulls would do a minor trade. Something like Denzel or Dunn for a 2nd or two, so I'm not surprised that they did nothing.

But I am bummed that they're not more creative or aggressive. I see someone like Andre Drummond go for essentially nothing and wonder if the Bull even inquired about him? Okay he might not be the answer, but right now I'd rather have him than Otto (who I mention for salary reasons).

Then I look at this past offseason. Teams such as the Heat and Warriors who were over the cap and still managed to improve their teams (Russell and Butler in particular).

And now I hear that Lauri might want out? I'm not sure if that's true (couldn't find the original source). Not good.

I guess this means we'll either sneak into the 8th seed or just miss it...? Then pick in the late lottery at best? Exciting!

[Dresden]

Kurt Helin, NBC Sports, had this to say about the meager return DET got on Drummund: Let’s be honest: The Pistons dumped Drummond. It’s a minuscule return for an All-Star center, but that also speaks to exactly where the market is on Drummond — teams looked at his game, looked at that $28.8 million next season, and said no thanks.

[aramada]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

What's our future, though? Which one of our players has shown he is (or can be) special? Zach fell short of All Stardom in his 6th year, Lauri has regressed, WCJ has no confidence in his offensive game, and Coby's game is developing but clearly flawed. Russell was clearly available today and at 23 he already led BKN to the playoffs while making the ASG. Why not try a talent+impact upgrade? A package starting with Lauri+Sato would have beaten MIN's offer. We are better off making the playoffs than not. Our 2020 pick doesn't hold much less value if we make it to the 7th-8th seed vs. if we finish 9th.
Paxson is wishful thinking (at best) when he says we don't know what we have. We do know. We just refuse to be aggressive to upgrade our roster and hope to hit the jackpot at the draft...

[Dresden]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

What's our future, though? Which one of our players has shown he is (or can be) special? Zach fell short of All Stardom in his 6th year, Lauri has regressed, WCJ has no confidence in his offensive game, and Coby's game is developing but clearly flawed. Russell was clearly available today and at 23 he already led BKN to the playoffs while making the ASG. Why not try a talent+impact upgrade? A package starting with Lauri+Sato would have beaten MIN's offer. We are better off making the playoffs than not. Our 2020 pick doesn't hold much less value if we make it to the 7th-8th seed vs. if we finish 9th.
Paxson is wishful thinking (at best) when he says we don't know what we have. We do know. We just refuse to be aggressive to upgrade our roster and hope to hit the jackpot at the draft...

I live in SF, and hear a lot of local sports talk, and the prevalent feeling about Russell is that he's more flash than substance. Yes, he can score, but there are a lot of questions about whether he really helps the team or not. So that's the kind of player you're getting.

I agree that none of our players looks like anything special. That's why I could see them dealing some of these players for future picks, or something.

[DASMACKDOWN]

On a side note, does anyone else feel really bad for Isaiah Thomas?

3 years ago he was avg 29ppg, all-star, all nba player. 'Thinking he was about to cash in big money that would set him and his family for a lifetime.

To giving his all to Boston, playing through serious injury, the death of his sister to just get kicked to the curb for 4 different teams and essentially only making vet minimum.

I feel for him.

[aramada]

I can understand the Bulls not being buyers. Why mortgage some of the future in order to get a player now that may help you be the 8th seed? I could have definitely seen them being sellers though- if teams were willing to give up decent draft picks or young prospects for some of our veterans, or even good young players like Dunn or Zach or Markannen. But more than likely, no one wanted to offer much for what we have.

What's our future, though? Which one of our players has shown he is (or can be) special? Zach fell short of All Stardom in his 6th year, Lauri has regressed, WCJ has no confidence in his offensive game, and Coby's game is developing but clearly flawed. Russell was clearly available today and at 23 he already led BKN to the playoffs while making the ASG. Why not try a talent+impact upgrade? A package starting with Lauri+Sato would have beaten MIN's offer. We are better off making the playoffs than not. Our 2020 pick doesn't hold much less value if we make it to the 7th-8th seed vs. if we finish 9th.
Paxson is wishful thinking (at best) when he says we don't know what we have. We do know. We just refuse to be aggressive to upgrade our roster and hope to hit the jackpot at the draft...

I live in SF, and hear a lot of local sports talk, and the prevalent feeling about Russell is that he's more flash than substance. Yes, he can score, but there are a lot of questions about whether he really helps the team or not. So that's the kind of player you're getting.

I agree that none of our players looks like anything special. That's why I could see them dealing some of these players for future picks, or something.

I don't disagree that Russell is a risk, but he clearly has talent and has also shown an ability to contribute to a playoff team. Other young players were available, like Kennard or Winslow. We desperately need more talent, especially offensively.
To your point about selling for picks, the other issue is that this draft is by all accounts weak. After 3 years in the tank, getting picks further down the road doesn't make much sense either.

[MrFortune3]

Guarantee the word "flexibility" will be said.

I'm so sick of hearing that word. We never do anything with said flexibility. FA's never come here, no star player ever forces their way here.
It's just the flexibility to continue squandering assets and claim rebuild ever few years.

[MrFortune3]

On a side note, does anyone else feel really bad for Isaiah Thomas?

3 years ago he was avg 29ppg, all-star, all nba player. 'Thinking he was about to cash in big money that would set him and his family for a lifetime.

To giving his all to Boston, playing through serious injury, the death of his sister to just get kicked to the curb for 4 different teams and essentially only making vet minimum.

I feel for him.

I feel for his personal issues but you can't be a one trick pony like his is and then lose your best trick.

[FriedRise]

Pax can point to injuries all he wants, but never forget that we were 2-6 with everyone healthy. Unfortunately simply getting guys back isn’t gonna change anything.

[MrSparkle]

On a side note, does anyone else feel really bad for Isaiah Thomas?

3 years ago he was avg 29ppg, all-star, all nba player. 'Thinking he was about to cash in big money that would set him and his family for a lifetime.

To giving his all to Boston, playing through serious injury, the death of his sister to just get kicked to the curb for 4 different teams and essentially only making vet minimum.

I feel for him.

I dunno, I don't really think he was in line for a max contract, but he did deserve a nice pay-grade.

However, I think all 30 NBA teams are relieved they didn't pay him $100m or so to play 10 bad games in 4 years.

[WYO]

Kurt Helin, NBC Sports, had this to say about the meager return DET got on Drummund: Let’s be honest: The Pistons dumped Drummond. It’s a minuscule return for an All-Star center, but that also speaks to exactly where the market is on Drummond — teams looked at his game, looked at that $28.8 million next season, and said no thanks.

Guys who can't play down the stretch of game 7 because they shoot under 60% on free throws aren't worth the max. I'd love to see Drummond in Chicago at the right price. The problem is he'll hit free agency and some organization like the Knicks will offer him the max.

[Rose2Boozer]

If Thad Young played well enough the Bulls would've had Mo Harkless and the Clippers 2020 first round pick. Oh well...

[drosereturn]

Considering what took place today

A otto porter lauri protected 1st (top 5) would have gotten DLO here

A thad young , sato felicio and 2nd rd pick would have gotten Drummond here

Drummond would have just been the stop gap center until we trade for karl Anthony towns. Towns who just mentioned how hurt he was when lavine left the team yesterday. You would have had 2 of his buddies here and he would have put us on the top of his list of trade destinations. Instead now he will stay in minny and we are left waiting until the next all star caliber player is on the move

If your a franchise trying to turn it around getting dlo lavine and towns together should have been explored and pursued heavily. This front office has no vision and has hindered the progress of the team with that boylen extension where now you have your 2 best players clearly not liking him.

Man when the hell is heads going to roll??

This team is fking dumb.
Dre could be had for Felicio/2nds and even if he made 30 next yr, could have convinced him to take a team friendly deal and flip WCJ for a star SF.
Trade otto and unprotected for DLO as well which was a major upgrade.
That was playoff guaranteed but Garpax is just dumb not to recognize it. Like ffs tired of development.

[_txchilibowl_]

I must have missed the memo....when did DeAngelo Russell stop being trash?