The Around The NBA Thread

bearadonisdna · Post #1181 » by **bearadonisdna** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 7:56 pm

Wow on paper I can make the mavs look like the better team.

Dallas center > Batum
Porzingis > Morris
Smith < Kawhi

Hardaway > Jackson
Luka > George

Mavs take 4/5 matchups

Chewie · Post #1182 » by **Chewie** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:20 pm

God I am so glad we don't have a rah rah PA announcer like today's games have.

So bush league.

Andi Obst · Post #1183 » by **Andi Obst** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:39 pm

Imagine Luka with a team.

jump · Post #1184 » by **jump** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:54 pm

I can imagine him on the Bulls team. That would work for me.

CaPiTanAK · Post #1185 » by **CaPiTanAK** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 8:58 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Imagine Luka with a team.

Imagine that tanking season with AK instead of GarPax.

Andi Obst · Post #1186 » by **Andi Obst** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 9:40 pm

Second best Mav has been DFS by far. Nobody else showed up. Too bad.

Dallas has to have a big offseason to get Doncic some help. Try everything to dump Porzingis, find some rim protection (or playable centers in general) and, most importantly, find another guy who can create offense. Watching Hardaway or Porzingis dribble gives me anxiety.

Leslie Forman · Post #1187 » by **Leslie Forman** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 9:43 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:his how is how I got this series

Embiid > Capella
Simmons > Collins
Harris > Hunter

1. Curry < Young
2. Green < Bog not by much kind of debatable

Basically 76ers can have the FC advantage and win 3/5 matchups

Stockton > Harper
Hornacek < Jordan
Russell < Pippen
Malone > Rodman
Ostertag > Longley

3/5 for Utah, they got this for sure.

Jeffster81 · Post #1188 » by **Jeffster81** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 9:44 pm

Imagine Luka with this current Hawks roster instead of the Mavs.

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Post #1189 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:01 pm

Dang it. An LA team will still exist in the playoffs.

dice · Post #1190 » by **dice** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:45 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:If I'm Philly I almost rather just get run out than make those comebacks just to lose it anyway. Coming back like that twice and still losing like this can just crush a team's soul. Philly just got their soul crushed and Embiid hurt his knee pretty bad in the last minute.

on the other hand, that hawks run in the first half and subsequent comeback is evidence that the sixers can take a punch. better to suffer an unexpected knockdown early in the fight/series.

kodo · Post #1191 » by **kodo** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:53 pm

It's going to be interesting how Cuban can add a star, they owe the Knicks 2 1st round picks and can't trade the middle 1st rounder. They can offer 2025 & 2027, but that's fairly far away and likely to be pretty poor picks if Dallas gets their star in return.

Post #1192 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 11:24 pm

kodo wrote:It's going to be interesting how Cuban can add a star, they owe the Knicks 2 1st round picks and can't trade the middle 1st rounder. They can offer 2025 & 2027, but that's fairly far away and likely to be pretty poor picks if Dallas gets their star in return.

Cuban has plenty of time though. Luka is only in year 3 and has plenty of cap space to work with.

They way I look at it, Luka is yet to play with other exceptional players. Its the same roster other than KP when you think about it.

KP was supposed to be the BIG GET when they made that deal 2 years ago. But he has always been injured and only solid as a player. Like a 7'3 version of Lauri that makes 30+ mil a year.

I do think they will pick up some decent players in the offseason but they wont get serious until they flip KP for another star. I dont think there is much chemistry between Luka and KP.

MrFortune3 · Post #1193 » by **MrFortune3** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 11:56 pm

You would think that Dallas would be a lot more attractive to FA's than they are.
Team owner willing to spend. Steady coaching staff. Steady FO.

But they almost never draw interest from top stars.

Wingy · Post #1194 » by **Wingy** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 12:46 am

MrFortune3 wrote:You would think that Dallas would be a lot more attractive to FA's than they are.
Team owner willing to spend. Steady coaching staff. Steady FO.

But they almost never draw interest from top stars.

How many times have they “struck out” a la GarPax? I honestly have no idea.

My perhaps inaccurate perception is that they’re so regularly active, they’re often historically going out and getting guys via trade vs being patient enough to play the big FA game.

I also wonder how Luka will do with another star. Everyone assumes magic given his current play, but who knows what that chemistry will look like with Luka so ball-dominant. While I think he’s too good, and too smart not to figure it out - it could be a process, and maybe never end up being what it looks like on paper.

Wingy · Post #1195 » by **Wingy** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 12:52 am

kodo wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
jc23 wrote:lakers will get another star before next years playoffs imo. i know they dont have the assets for it but i just feel like someone will force their way to LA.

I don't think anyone is going to force their way to LA. AD has injury issues and LeBron has father time creeping up on him.
I could see someone forcing their way to the Knicks or Heat.

Also tends to be very buddy buddy based, and Lebron isn't friends with a lot of the current generation of stars. It was interesting he got AD to buy in, but it's not like AD was best friends with anyone in New Orleans either.

I’m with jc23. Maybe not that fast, but way sooner than anyone would think. It would be less about Lebron, and more about new star making the Lakers their own team. They know Gramps Lebron is fading...but they could compete with him, and then be the man to carry on the legacy.

CobyWhite0 · Post #1196 » by **CobyWhite0** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:00 am

MrFortune3 wrote:You would think that Dallas would be a lot more attractive to FA's than they are.
Team owner willing to spend. Steady coaching staff. Steady FO.

But they almost never draw interest from top stars.

The bolded is now a huge urban legend - since the Mavs won the title in 2011, Cuban has paid LESS luxury tax than Reinsdorf. As soon as they won a title, he quit spending, plain and simple.

And in the 10 years since winning the title, they've missed the playoffs 5 times, and lost in the first round 5 times. Superstars aren't generally looking to go to a situation like that.

jc23 · Post #1197 » by **jc23** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:05 am

Wingy wrote:
kodo wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
I don't think anyone is going to force their way to LA. AD has injury issues and LeBron has father time creeping up on him.
I could see someone forcing their way to the Knicks or Heat.

Also tends to be very buddy buddy based, and Lebron isn't friends with a lot of the current generation of stars. It was interesting he got AD to buy in, but it's not like AD was best friends with anyone in New Orleans either.

I’m with jc23. Maybe not that fast, but way sooner than anyone would think. It would be less about Lebron, and more about new star making the Lakers their own team. They know Gramps Lebron is fading...but they could compete with him, and then be the man to carry on the legacy.

Its mean to say but i feel AD is a guy who can be easily manipulated. Good points about lebrons close circle getting older. Also a star seeing the possibility of using lebron as a means to an end the same way lebron use to use his past teammates.

I wonder what his last contract will look like in regards to lebron. He wants to go into retirement with as much money as possible to buy a team so im sure he will look for a kobe type contract.

bearadonisdna · Post #1198 » by **bearadonisdna** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:06 am

Leslie Forman wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:his how is how I got this series

Embiid > Capella
Simmons > Collins
Harris > Hunter

1. Curry < Young
2. Green < Bog not by much kind of debatable

Basically 76ers can have the FC advantage and win 3/5 matchups

Stockton > Harper
Hornacek < Jordan
Russell < Pippen
Malone > Rodman
Ostertag > Longley

3/5 for Utah, they got this for sure.

Ostertag was a career 4ppg player. You are wrong.

CobyWhite0 · Post #1199 » by **CobyWhite0** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:07 am

Wingy wrote:
kodo wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
I don't think anyone is going to force their way to LA. AD has injury issues and LeBron has father time creeping up on him.
I could see someone forcing their way to the Knicks or Heat.

Also tends to be very buddy buddy based, and Lebron isn't friends with a lot of the current generation of stars. It was interesting he got AD to buy in, but it's not like AD was best friends with anyone in New Orleans either.

I’m with jc23. Maybe not that fast, but way sooner than anyone would think. It would be less about Lebron, and more about new star making the Lakers their own team. They know Gramps Lebron is fading...but they could compete with him, and then be the man to carry on the legacy.

Why would anyone think players will flock to the Lakers?

Look at their record from the 2014-19 seasons - 6 years - nobody cared to sign there.

jc23 · Post #1200 » by **jc23** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:12 am

CobyWhite0 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
kodo wrote:
Also tends to be very buddy buddy based, and Lebron isn't friends with a lot of the current generation of stars. It was interesting he got AD to buy in, but it's not like AD was best friends with anyone in New Orleans either.

I’m with jc23. Maybe not that fast, but way sooner than anyone would think. It would be less about Lebron, and more about new star making the Lakers their own team. They know Gramps Lebron is fading...but they could compete with him, and then be the man to carry on the legacy.

Why would anyone think players will flock to the Lakers?

Look at their record from the 2014-19 seasons - 6 years - nobody cared to sign there.

its a front running franchise.