Options to fix the PF hole

[holv03]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

[StunnerKO]

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[LateNight]

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[sco]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

Sure, but he's not healthy and had 2 season ending injuries to same knee, plus he's under contract for 3 more seasons at $17M.

[biggestbullsfan]

AKME are not taking in any true PFs this season, as has been evidenced by all of their moves this season and last offseason. They want either tweeners or true centers. I don't think Millsap is a target, because I think he's stuck in the PF position at this point in his career.

The only way this happens is if AKME think otherwise (that either he can legitimately play center, or he can guard wings like Javaonte and DJJ have had to do).

We were 1 of 2 finalists to sign Millsap last offseason before he went and chose to Brooklyn. We definitely wanted him lol

[biggestbullsfan]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

I dont want him anywhere near my team but thats just a personal preference. I dont even care about his fit lol

[jordanwilliams6]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

I dont want him anywhere near my team but thats just a personal preference. I dont even care about his fit lol

I think it’s also clear that AKME values high character guys with little ego who won’t disrupt chemistry. It’s why you can forget about guys like Wood & Grant.

[sco]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

I dont want him anywhere near my team but thats just a personal preference. I dont even care about his fit lol

I think it’s also clear that AKME values high character guys with little ego who won’t disrupt chemistry. It’s why you can forget about guys like Wood & Grant.

Do we really think Grant is non-high character big ego guy? I haven't heard that before.
He wanted a bigger role on offense because he worked hard to improve his game, now his effectiveness as a first option scorer is certainly debatable.

[GoBlue72391]

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I wouldn't worry about it, just force of habit of being a Bulls fan

[ChettheJet]

Since it taken this long and they haven't made any of the thousand and one proposed trades I'm of a mind that they know who is going to get bought out that suits their needs. I'm for Thompson and Milsap so we get two big bodies to come off the bench. Thompson more at the 5, Milsap more at the 4 and they likely don't play together very often. But it could be one or two other guys who haven't been in the rumor mill.

Hard to see Millsap out there doing what Javonte and Derrick Jones do for us. He's also been an awful perimeter defender as he's aged, Boozer-like out in space. I kind of question if I'd rather have him or Tyler Cook on Giannis.

Milsap is not going to be brought over trying to be a defensive force. You either know that going in or you don't understand what different players bring. Nether Green or DJJ are ever going to get double teamed, they are the players left open so their man CAN double team somebody. What Milsap brings is somebody who can still score in the low post, and with switches he IS the guy the defense will run to double team leaving Ayo, Coby or Demar wide open so he can feed them. Milsap can rebound and get the put back basket by muscling some 6-10 guy, at 6-4 Javonte has to be in just the right position to get that same shot and long arms and lean DJJ has to be able to out jump somebody inside.


Getting Milsap allows them to start Cook instead of him being the backup 5. He looks his best cutting to the basket and anybody can hit him. When everybody is healthy it will be Billy's job to see how DJJ, Milsap and Thompson match up to the opposition behind Vucevic and Cook. If they're playing CLE for example with their young, long front court or Giannis, Milsap is the odd man out as DJJ and Thompson provide more mobility.

Adding two bigs also lets them to stop being forced to play Caruso and Green at the 4 against guys 6-8 inches taller than they are and puts them at guard and SF where their defense is stronger.

[jordanwilliams6]

I dont want him anywhere near my team but thats just a personal preference. I dont even care about his fit lol

I think it’s also clear that AKME values high character guys with little ego who won’t disrupt chemistry. It’s why you can forget about guys like Wood & Grant.

Do we really think Grant is non-high character big ego guy? I haven't heard that before.
He wanted a bigger role on offense because he worked hard to improve his game, now his effectiveness as a first option scorer is certainly debatable.

There's certainly a number of reports that he wants to be a major focal point on offense. If he came here, it would likely be as a defensive specialist and 4th option (much like his Denver days). There hasn't been anything to suggest that he'd be happy to go to a contender and take back seat. He wants a big role and big money, neither of what we could offer. Although those reports could be without substance.. He's not good enough to be a 2nd option, potentially a 3rd option at best.

I think he ends up on the Wizards as a second option behind Beal. They'll likely pay him the ridiculous amount he wants as well, and probably be a very average team.

[sco]

I think it’s also clear that AKME values high character guys with little ego who won’t disrupt chemistry. It’s why you can forget about guys like Wood & Grant.

Do we really think Grant is non-high character big ego guy? I haven't heard that before.
He wanted a bigger role on offense because he worked hard to improve his game, now his effectiveness as a first option scorer is certainly debatable.

There's certainly a number of reports that he wants to be a major focal point on offense. If he came here, it would likely be as a defensive specialist and 4th option (much like his Denver days). There hasn't been anything to suggest that he'd be happy to go to a contender and take back seat. He wants a big role and big money, neither of what we could offer. Although those reports could be without substance.. He's not good enough to be a 2nd option, potentially a 3rd option at best.

I think he ends up on the Wizards as a second option behind Beal. They'll likely pay him the ridiculous amount he wants as well, and probably be a very average team.

I'm hoping the Wiz get him and keep Beal vs. trading Beal to PHI for Simmons.

I'm still rooting for a deal with POR where we get good value for their pick, which they should be begging to get back because they can remove the protections and really upgrade.

[StunnerKO]

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I wouldn't worry about it, just force of habit of being a Bulls fan

Yea I’m just responding to the Isaac talk I don’t want dude here in theory of player fit he is ideal but his his off the court actions and always hurt is a big pass . He tore his acl 100 days before joe burrow and still isn’t back but he’s having a hell of a book tour .

[jordanwilliams6]

Do we really think Grant is non-high character big ego guy? I haven't heard that before.
He wanted a bigger role on offense because he worked hard to improve his game, now his effectiveness as a first option scorer is certainly debatable.

There's certainly a number of reports that he wants to be a major focal point on offense. If he came here, it would likely be as a defensive specialist and 4th option (much like his Denver days). There hasn't been anything to suggest that he'd be happy to go to a contender and take back seat. He wants a big role and big money, neither of what we could offer. Although those reports could be without substance.. He's not good enough to be a 2nd option, potentially a 3rd option at best.

I think he ends up on the Wizards as a second option behind Beal. They'll likely pay him the ridiculous amount he wants as well, and probably be a very average team.

I'm hoping the Wiz get him and keep Beal vs. trading Beal to PHI for Simmons.

I'm still rooting for a deal with POR where we get good value for their pick, which they should be begging to get back because they can remove the protections and really upgrade.

It's a tough one because the way Portland are playing, I can easily see them sneaking into the playoffs and getting bounced first round. Would we rather a 15-18 first rounder in the draft, or someone like RoCo for possible this season alone? I think that pick is about 40/60 chance in conveying this year.

[sco]

There's certainly a number of reports that he wants to be a major focal point on offense. If he came here, it would likely be as a defensive specialist and 4th option (much like his Denver days). There hasn't been anything to suggest that he'd be happy to go to a contender and take back seat. He wants a big role and big money, neither of what we could offer. Although those reports could be without substance.. He's not good enough to be a 2nd option, potentially a 3rd option at best.

I think he ends up on the Wizards as a second option behind Beal. They'll likely pay him the ridiculous amount he wants as well, and probably be a very average team.

I'm hoping the Wiz get him and keep Beal vs. trading Beal to PHI for Simmons.

I'm still rooting for a deal with POR where we get good value for their pick, which they should be begging to get back because they can remove the protections and really upgrade.

It's a tough one because the way Portland are playing, I can easily see them sneaking into the playoffs and getting bounced first round. Would we rather a 15-18 first rounder in the draft, or someone like RoCo for possible this season alone? I think that pick is about 40/60 chance in conveying this year.

Actually, you raise a good point. How does the whole play-in thing impact the pick conveying. IIRC it's lottery protected, but are play-in teams in the lottery? What about 7 & 8 seeds?

[jordanwilliams6]

I'm hoping the Wiz get him and keep Beal vs. trading Beal to PHI for Simmons.

I'm still rooting for a deal with POR where we get good value for their pick, which they should be begging to get back because they can remove the protections and really upgrade.

It's a tough one because the way Portland are playing, I can easily see them sneaking into the playoffs and getting bounced first round. Would we rather a 15-18 first rounder in the draft, or someone like RoCo for possible this season alone? I think that pick is about 40/60 chance in conveying this year.

Actually, you raise a good point. How does the whole play-in thing impact the pick conveying. IIRC it's lottery protected, but are play-in teams in the lottery? What about 7 & 8 seeds?

If you lose the play-in, you're in the lottery. If you win the play-in and therefore make the playoffs then you're out of the lottery. So basically the Blazers would have to make the play-in and then make the playoffs for the pick to convey which I think is a plausible scenario. I think they'll finish the 9th or 10th seed.

[step]

A player I think fits this team and could help us if he's healthy is Jonathan Isaac. I am not sure what is the update on his injury but with Orlando having Carter Jr, Bamba and Wagner he could become available.

His contract is rather off-putting, 4 years and ~70M.

[nitetrain8603]

I wouldn't mind Harri Barnes

[WindyCityBorn]

I wouldn't mind Harri Barnes

That would cost Williams and/or 1st round picks. No thanks. He also doesn’t solve our size issue.

[prolific passer]

Yeah. Barnes is really a small forward playing out of position. Kings do you have some decent young bigs who seem to have pretty cheap contracts though. Like Metu who is a pf/c type. Good backup big for the bulls and i would still try to trade for Lyles.