2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[League Circles]

Carter Bryant's combine press conference shows him to be a really dedicated, bright player with the right mindset for such a young guy. He very well might be BPA when we pick IMO. The defensive potential is extreme.

[Jvaughn]

Anyone have a line on who the Bulls have meet with so far. Only name I've heard is Sorber.

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

[BullsSD]

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I wouldn't call Fleming over Yaxel wings, but still good history for long armed wings.

Wow. Incredible return rate when drafting based on those measurables.

I’m sold. #12 should be Fleming or Coward, or Maluach if he somehow slides. Those are the guys.

[kodo]

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I wouldn't call Fleming over Yaxel wings, but still good history for long armed wings.

Agreed they aren't wings, just because you're short for a big doesn't mean you're a wing. Neither can create and shoot off the dribble like an NBA wing eg Jaylen Brown or Derozan.

This list is edited. Adam Sanogo has a 7' 3" wingspan and should also be listed if they're including PF/Cs like Fleming/Yaxel. Also Justin Lewis.

But I am on board with the Coulibably hype.

[kodo]

Anyone have a line on who the Bulls have meet with so far. Only name I've heard is Sorber.

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Surprised they interviewed Tre. Looks like they will draft BPA not need, good for them.

[kodo]

Just to be clear, I don't hate Queen as a prospect. He just comes with risks, though many of them do, but especially when it comes to weight and conditioning for a big man, I'm always weary. That said, for a big man he has some unique skills, he is quick on his feet, rather nimble, albeit lumbering, has legit play-making skills for his size and has a high basketball IQ, makes quick decisions with the ball and usually for a big man, fantastic foot work both in the post and out in the perimeter, play-making/passing and decision making is one of the last things they learn.

I'd go as far as to say, considering his skill level, if he was a better conditioned player, he would be a top 3 draft pick, possibly a clear-cut number two because I could see him playing perfectly along side of Wemby, and that's even despite his relatively poor athleticism, he just has that much skill. That all said though, he would really need to make a 180 as far as his conditioning goes, and though there are many that have gone from thin to strong, not many have gone from fat to lean. And though he isn't fat in the traditional sense, it makes me nervous that conditioning is going to either make or break his career.

If he were to fall to 12, and the Bulls select him, I wouldn't hate it, but I certainly wouldn't love it, because he isn't a fit as far as style of play we seem to have settled on, but my pessimism that he would turn things around with his weight and conditioning by the time we would need to decide whether to extend him or not.

He's the slowest player recorded since 2002. He's not just slow, he's outlier slow. He's much slower than Edey or Clingan. I definitely saw it on his scouting vids, when switched onto some guards he looked like George Muresan out there.

Wasserman said the conditioning affected his offensive game as well, the main reason he did so poorly on the shooting drills was because he ran out of breath on the drills. Normally nobody gets fatigued just shooting jumpers with no up & down the court.

He's a very interesting specimen, I wonder what teams think of him.

[WindyCityBorn]

Anyone have a line on who the Bulls have meet with so far. Only name I've heard is Sorber.

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

What is with the Asa Newell hate. Great side, Great form on soft jumper, very good athleticism, hit the boards hard. Played extremely well as true freshman in toughest conference in the history of college basketball. Led UGA to our first NCAA tournament appearance in over a decade.

People on here act like is Patrick Williams or something. He would be a very good pairing with Matas. A true PF and not a wing pretending to be one.

[Jcool0]

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

What is with the Asa Newell hate. Great side, Great form on soft jumper, very good athleticism, hit the boards hard. Played extremely well as true freshman in toughest conference in the history of college basketball. Led UGA to our first NCAA tournament appearance in over a decade.

People on here act like is Patrick Williams or something. He would be a very good pairing with Matas. A true PF and not a wing pretending to be one.

Kind of reminds me of Joakim Noah when I see him play.

[MrSparkle]

Just to be clear, I don't hate Queen as a prospect. He just comes with risks, though many of them do, but especially when it comes to weight and conditioning for a big man, I'm always weary. That said, for a big man he has some unique skills, he is quick on his feet, rather nimble, albeit lumbering, has legit play-making skills for his size and has a high basketball IQ, makes quick decisions with the ball and usually for a big man, fantastic foot work both in the post and out in the perimeter, play-making/passing and decision making is one of the last things they learn.

I'd go as far as to say, considering his skill level, if he was a better conditioned player, he would be a top 3 draft pick, possibly a clear-cut number two because I could see him playing perfectly along side of Wemby, and that's even despite his relatively poor athleticism, he just has that much skill. That all said though, he would really need to make a 180 as far as his conditioning goes, and though there are many that have gone from thin to strong, not many have gone from fat to lean. And though he isn't fat in the traditional sense, it makes me nervous that conditioning is going to either make or break his career.

If he were to fall to 12, and the Bulls select him, I wouldn't hate it, but I certainly wouldn't love it, because he isn't a fit as far as style of play we seem to have settled on, but my pessimism that he would turn things around with his weight and conditioning by the time we would need to decide whether to extend him or not.

He's the slowest player recorded since 2002. He's not just slow, he's outlier slow. He's much slower than Edey or Clingan. I definitely saw it on his scouting vids, when switched onto some guards he looked like George Muresan out there.

Wasserman said the conditioning affected his offensive game as well, the main reason he did so poorly on the shooting drills was because he ran out of breath on the drills. Normally nobody gets fatigued just shooting jumpers with no up & down the court.

He's a very interesting specimen, I wonder what teams think of him.

Yea. I think he'll carve a good role, but it has to be on an all-defensive team, and ideally start off the bench. I can see him sliding to SAS, ATL, OKC in the 13-15 range and becoming a steal. I imagine AK skips on him due to things like conditioning, his interview, etc.

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I wouldn't call Fleming over Yaxel wings, but still good history for long armed wings.

Agreed they aren't wings, just because you're short for a big doesn't mean you're a wing. Neither can create and shoot off the dribble like an NBA wing eg Jaylen Brown or Derozan.

This list is edited. Adam Sanogo has a 7' 3" wingspan and should also be listed if they're including PF/Cs like Fleming/Yaxel. Also Justin Lewis.

But I am on board with the Coulibably hype.

This is only 1st rounders, so Lewis and Sanogo miss the mark.

[Jvaughn]

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

What is with the Asa Newell hate. Great side, Great form on soft jumper, very good athleticism, hit the boards hard. Played extremely well as true freshman in toughest conference in the history of college basketball. Led UGA to our first NCAA tournament appearance in over a decade.

People on here act like is Patrick Williams or something. He would be a very good pairing with Matas. A true PF and not a wing pretending to be one.

Undersized at the 5. Not quick enough to guard 4s and doesn't have the perimeter game to make up for it on the other end. He's a fine prospect for someone in the 20s, but he's a big meh otherwise.

Honestly if he was a better athlete, you might take the chance, but he's solid and not elite in that regard. Takes a lot of time to load up and get off the ground, and isn't a great lob target. He'll probably project to be a 15-20 bench big at his prime. Will upload his video in a minute.

[Jvaughn]

Asa Newell breakdown. My biggest issue is that he seems to score entirely from opportunity buckets. I'm not sure how much that's going to translate. I could very well be wrong though.

Watch on YouTube

[drosestruts]

Confused as to why Felmming seems to be falling in mocks.

Felt his combine measurements we're good (terrific wing span) aside form his vertical.

He's 6'9", long as heck, shoots 39% from 3, and has 3 stocks per game.

[League Circles]

Fun fact:

Of the 7 different guys who have win the nba mvp in the last decade, only 3 were drafted in the top 6 (Embiid, Westbrook, and Harden). Giannis, Jokic, SGA and Curry all after that.

[2weekswithpay]

Confused as to why Felmming seems to be falling in mocks.

Felt his combine measurements we're good (terrific wing span) aside form his vertical.

He's 6'9", long as heck, shoots 39% from 3, and has 3 stocks per game.

He can't dribble, hasn't shown much as a passer, and has only one year of good shooting. Not a lot of games against good teams.

Great measurements for a wing. If you think he's a big, the measurements are still good, but maybe not enough.

[TheJordanRule]

This draft got me hoping for a Fears AND Traore draft. Show me some vision, FO. Please! Cash in Coby for a mid range lotto pick like Jeremiah and then upgrade our pick if needed for Nolan.

[Almost Retired]

Brooklyn has 4 First Round picks. Unless they package some of them for a run at Giannis I can;t see them drafting 4 guys in one year. I wonder if they would take our #12 for their #19 and #27? With those 2 picks I'd take Joan Beringer for his potential and Walter Clayton Jr. because he can get buckets.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

This draft got me hoping for a Fears AND Traore draft. Show me some vision, FO. Please! Cash in Coby for a mid range lotto pick like Jeremiah and then upgrade our pick if needed for Nolan.

Between here and Bulls Twitter I’m starting to wonder if my gauge of Coby’s value is off, because I can’t see a team trading a lottery pick for one year of cost-controlled Coby in a million years.

[TheJordanRule]

This draft got me hoping for a Fears AND Traore draft. Show me some vision, FO. Please! Cash in Coby for a mid range lotto pick like Jeremiah and then upgrade our pick if needed for Nolan.

Between here and Bulls Twitter I’m starting to wonder if my gauge of Coby’s value is off, because I can’t see a team trading a lottery pick for one year of cost-controlled Coby in a million years.

He's still young, isn't he, brother? Would / could any team(s) in the NBA view Coby as more of a sure thing, proven performer who still hasn't reached his ceiling and may break out in a year or two?

[Red Larrivee]

Confused as to why Felmming seems to be falling in mocks.

Felt his combine measurements we're good (terrific wing span) aside form his vertical.

He's 6'9", long as heck, shoots 39% from 3, and has 3 stocks per game.

I think if a team has the infrastructure to keep Fleming in the role he's already in, and they don't care about his inexperience or limitations as a ball handler, then he's going to be really good value wherever he goes. I don't think the Bulls are that team, even though I think he would look good next to Buzelis in a vacuum. He also fits the profile of what AK usually likes.