Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

[Rerisen]

The narrative is Deng is very valuable for the Bulls. Actually, with his questionable ball handling skills and otherwise good to great skills in other things, he is a better fit for most to many teams. I feel he is actually a bad fit for the Bulls because the Bulls lack a second ball handler.

Totally agree. Deng would be a good fit if Boozer had worked out like we thought, or if we had a real legit creating 2nd option.

Sadly, we cannot get that guy realistically while Deng is on the team with his big deal. 2nd option importance > 3rd option.

We've known this since the Skiles years, Deng is not a good 2nd option. And his production falls when he is asked to do things out of his comfort zone. Last year being a good example when his efficiency and shot tanked. This year it wasn't really coming back even with Derrick either.

[Chi town]

Mech you nailed it on fit. I think CLE will pay him and Deng will stay. He gives big money to charity so he will go where the money is. Only a few teams will have cap space to get him next summer.

Deng will fetch us a solid asset.

[League Circles]

Negative. We have our starting SF for $2 million next year. Butler is going nowhere.

Butler has value. It is NECESSARY trading him.

For obvious reasons, this makes zero sense.

I think it's obvious that Butler should be shopped. We suck at scoring, and Jimmy has little scoring talent, scores at a very low rate, is undersized for his supposed natural position, and will be trying to get an extension this summer.

His value to us has just dropped quite a bit - as does the value of all role players on medicore or bad teams (MDJ too). But his value to other teams shouldn't have changed overnight.

[whodey]

Bulls are more likely to trade Butler than Deng

Negative. We have our starting SF for $2 million next year. Butler is going nowhere.

Butler has value. It is NECESSARY trading him.

Here's the point. What exactly do you trade Butler for when he's making $1 million this year? I mean maybe, and it's a long shot, but you may be able to package Butler with Boozer and get something in return. I doubt it though.

But if you deal Deng, then maybe we can get some expirings and a pick in the 15-25 range, even though I doubt that as well. I think we either deal him for a player with 2-3 years left on a contract that we see as a long term fit next to Rose or we just let him expire, amnesty Boozer, and use our cap space. If we go the cap space route, we absolutely have to dump Dunleavy, Teague, and maybe even Snell. Maybe Taj too, but I don't mind Taj, Noah, and Mirotic as a rotation for our bigs.

[Mech Engineer]

The smartest thing the Bulls can do with Deng is to make a move based on a future move. The move might look bad right now but if that move can help the Bulls consolidate some assets to make a better move. I am not advocating this move...But, trading Deng for Asik and Lin(or even Asik and a pick) for example will give the Bulls two Centers who are assets for future trades. Then they can take their time based on the need to move the wrong guy(Noah or Asik) next summer.

[kingkirk]

I think it's obvious that Butler should be shopped. We suck at scoring, and Jimmy has little scoring talent, scores at a very low rate, is undersized for his supposed natural position, and will be trying to get an extension this summer.

His value to us has just dropped quite a bit - as does the value of all role players on medicore or bad teams (MDJ too). But his value to other teams shouldn't have changed overnight.

How does his contract offer any return value?

He makes peanuts. You can't get anything back of quality for him.

Jimmy is a rare commodity in this league. He is a value contract. Moving him is a dumb move because the return cannot be equal, and why would we giving he isn't hurting our cap and is a young and developing talent?

[LobosJordan]

JImmy is our starting SF, maybe as soon as a couple of months.

[Payt10]

If you trade Jimmy, he'll only be included in a package with someone like Noah or Deng to get you that asset, whether that's a player or a draft pick. He's not a MUST TRADE kind of a player, especially given his cap friendly contract.

[Chi town]

Jimmy stays because his D is special and we will need it when Deng leaves. Jimmy should play SF as well.

I only trade Jimmy for Barnes but Barnes has more value.

Deng needs to net us a young wing that can score and create offense even if it's not great. Waiters would be a solid piece.

[Flash4thewin]

The only reason to trade Deng is to get under the tax. Deng will fetch more value if the team is willing to take a bad contract which negates the point of trading him

[wonderboy2]

Utah Receives
Luol Deng

Chicago Receives
Andris BIedrins
Alec Burks
Rights to Golden State's 2014 1st Round Pick (Unprotected)

Saves the Bulls $3.073M.

The Bulls aren't getting a better player back and no team is going to trade us their high draft pick for a rental of Deng. If the Bulls get an expiring, a cheap deal, and a pick, that's fine.

In this deal, Utah trades $11M+ in useless salary and a pick for Deng, who will prevent them from playing Richard Jefferson in the lineup and doesn't kill their payroll.

I'd be all for that. Burks isn't great but is a young player for the bench. If Charlotte keeps it up we could have 3 picks in this draft to use as a potential move up 8-10 range.

If we dont get a top 5 pick it wont be worth it. The guys that have a chance to be very good are Parker,Randle,Wiggins,Exum,Embid, maybe Young. But guys like smart, mcgary, glen gorbinsonIII,garry harris,ect are flawed players and proabaly wont be ready for a while.Do you think rose is going to want to have to rebuild and have inexperience players around him when he come back. I dont like this idea. Im proably higher on mirotic then anybody on here but you are putting pressure on a ROOKIE to be able to give you boozers production. and nobody we get is going to replace what deng do.

[League Circles]

How does his contract offer any return value?

He makes peanuts. You can't get anything back of quality for him.

Jimmy is a rare commodity in this league. He is a value contract. Moving him is a dumb move because the return cannot be equal, and why would we giving he isn't hurting our cap and is a young and developing talent?

Of course you can get value for him. First of all, we have plenty of contracts to match - Deng, Kirk, MDJ, Snell...

Second, you can trade him for a pick which don't require any matching at all, or another player on a rookie deal who can score but maybe not defend or rebound like Jimmy. Jimmy is a value contract for one more year. Big deal. I also don't consider Jimmy to be a developing player. Players develop when they are doing the wrong **** on the court. Jimmy plays very smart. I don't really see in what way he's going to improve. He's not all that young, either. He's 24. I'm not saying you trade him just to trade him, but you certainly don't keep him just to keep him. This team cannot be preoccupied with role players right now, especially ones that don't score much.

[Rerisen]

The smartest thing the Bulls can do with Deng is to make a move based on a future move.

At 28 years old, and coming off 2 All-Star appearances, I also don't think Deng's value will ever be higher.

[whodey]

Deng for Waiters, Clark, and Gee? Clark and Gee are fully unguaranteed next year.

[League Circles]

Deng for Tyreke is what we should go for IMO. Good for both teams IMO.

[Salo23]

Sac: Thompson/Thornton/Jimmer for Deng/Nazr/James

Den: Nate/Chandler/Randolph for Deng/Murphy/Teague

Cha: Gordon/Taylor/Henderson for Deng/Dunleavy

Hou: Asik/Lin for Deng/Murphy/Nazr

Utah: Jefferson/Gobert/Burks/Rush for Deng/Teague/Nazr/Murphy

[otwok]

I am the opposite. Before Rose went down with the injury I was on the "we have to trade Deng for an asset" idea, after I feel it is just best to let him expire and move on. Unless we can dump him for just draft picks, we need to keep some capspace to sign players. Unless Deng can fetch us a legit number 1 guy which I don't think he can I say let him expire say bye and try to build through draft and free agency

[Chicago Live]

GMs are smart & kno that deng was an all-star selection based on his 'grit.' Probably the worst two time all star I'm recent memory if not ever. He's a role player.

[wonderboy2]

Negative. We have our starting SF for $2 million next year. Butler is going nowhere.

Butler has value. It is NECESSARY trading him.

Here's the point. What exactly do you trade Butler for when he's making $1 million this year? I mean maybe, and it's a long shot, but you may be able to package Butler with Boozer and get something in return. I doubt it though.

But if you deal Deng, then maybe we can get some expirings and a pick in the 15-25 range, even though I doubt that as well. I think we either deal him for a player with 2-3 years left on a contract that we see as a long term fit next to Rose or we just let him expire, amnesty Boozer, and use our cap space. If we go the cap space route, we absolutely have to dump Dunleavy, Teague, and maybe even Snell. Maybe Taj too, but I don't mind Taj, Noah, and Mirotic as a rotation for our bigs.

You trade butler for a pick. When deng leaves butler is going to have us by the balls.Butler agent cant tell the bulls look You dont have another guy even close to butler now that you dont have deng, "show us the money". Butler can demand what he wants from the bulls. I would trade butler for a pick.Or else people on here are going to turn on him once he gets that fat contract he putting up taking 6 shots and scoring 11 points.

[Chi town]

What's crazy is if Deng lands in the righ fit w scorers and handlers then he could be really good.