Buy low guys with superstar upside

[dumbell78]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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[GimmeDat]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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Dejounte seems like a clearly better option that Lonzo, but I think Pop knows he has a gem there and he's going to cost a lot. Not often Spurs trade away young pieces. But yeah, love the name.

[HomoSapien]

I don't really know what to make of Elfrid Payton. I thought he'd be good coming out of college, but then the NBA changed and his game didn't really seem to translate. Then this season he had 6 triple doubles, including 5 triple doubles in a row. That's not a be all end all, but guys who suck don't get five triple doubles in a row.

[Axolotl]

I don't really know what to make of Elfrid Payton. I thought he'd be good coming out of college, but then the NBA changed and his game didn't really seem to translate. Then this season he had 6 triple doubles, including 5 triple doubles in a row. That's not a be all end all, but guys who suck don't get five triple doubles in a row.

Based on these boards, I'd consider Payton underrated. He's been called a scrub, which he is not. I wouldn't go as far as to say he has superstar potential, but potential he does have.

A pass first PG, pretty good on the rim, but not much of a shooter. Seems to know where to go when bringing the ball to the offensive end.

[GimmeDat]

I don't really know what to make of Elfrid Payton. I thought he'd be good coming out of college, but then the NBA changed and his game didn't really seem to translate. Then this season he had 6 triple doubles, including 5 triple doubles in a row. That's not a be all end all, but guys who suck don't get five triple doubles in a row.

Based on these boards, I'd consider Payton underrated. He's been called a scrub, which he is not. I wouldn't go as far as to say he has superstar potential, but potential he does have.

A pass first PG, pretty good on the rim, but not much of a shooter. Seems to know where to go when bringing the ball to the offensive end.

It's hard to imagine him being too bad.. I was surprised his stock had fallen so low that Phoenix didn't bring him back even. When healthy it seemed like he played well for NOP.. definitely a guy you could give a crack as a backup and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a good season.

[Chi town]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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I love Murray’s game and fit with us.

Murray will cost more than Ball. Don’t let their draft position fool you. Murray is a much better player. No way Pop traded him unless it’s for a lottery pick. No way Ball nets a lottery pick for the Lakers.

[TheFinishSniper]

Let's not forget we could have drafted Murray and he was projected in mocks to be in our range. Yet we picked some guy named Denzel Valentine if I am not wrong because if anything Doug Mcdermott should have taught was draft unathletic seniors from college. And now you wanna GarPax to trade assets for him. That would just make them foolish just like we could have had draft Lavine and pair him with Butler instead trade Butler for him. Pivoting pivoting pivoting.

This franchise sometimes. One step further 20 steps back franchise on it's operational lvl.

[sco]

If we draft a PG, I'm coming around on Noel. He made real progress last season, and I think he might end-up better than WCJ. I'd certainly be ok signing him to a 4/$50 type deal if he could be had that cheaply.

[TheSuzerain]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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Spurs won’t trade him. He’s their starting PG

[TheSuzerain]

Tyus Jones is definitely a guy that looks good per the analytics. He's a smart player the outplays his box score, and he fits the roster well. But to me, he seems like a marginal improvement on the Arcidicaono role, or, following those same lines, a lesser volume scoring version of what Fred Vanvleet is for Toronto.

I think that makes for a handy piece for a mediocre team, or an excellent backup on a playoff team. But I think if you're looking for a starter on a good team you need a higher upside guy. It also depends what the makeup of your bench is because I think he's best playing alongside higher volume offensive threats.

He’s 2 years younger than both, and a better playmaker than both.

But it’s not a coincidence that the Bulls were a much better team with Arci on the floor.

[Proven_Winner]

I don't really know what to make of Elfrid Payton. I thought he'd be good coming out of college, but then the NBA changed and his game didn't really seem to translate. Then this season he had 6 triple doubles, including 5 triple doubles in a row. That's not a be all end all, but guys who suck don't get five triple doubles in a row.

Based on these boards, I'd consider Payton underrated. He's been called a scrub, which he is not. I wouldn't go as far as to say he has superstar potential, but potential he does have.

A pass first PG, pretty good on the rim, but not much of a shooter. Seems to know where to go when bringing the ball to the offensive end.

It's hard to imagine him being too bad.. I was surprised his stock had fallen so low that Phoenix didn't bring him back even. When healthy it seemed like he played well for NOP.. definitely a guy you could give a crack as a backup and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a good season.

I’m surprised we haven’t been linked to him since he is a cheap option that only makes us better at PG. plus IIRC the FO really wanted him in his draft so now is the perfect time to get him for cheap.

[TheJordanRule]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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I love Murray’s game and fit with us.

Murray will cost more than Ball. Don’t let their draft position fool you. Murray is a much better player. No way Pop traded him unless it’s for a lottery pick. No way Ball nets a lottery pick for the Lakers.

#7 for Murray would be a slick steal.

[Chi town]

A lot of Ball call outs. Here is my sneaky good buy low guy. Yeah coming back from ACL but so did Zach. Young, great length at the PG spot and real all defensive ability. Yeah he's not a star and all but maybe he can be had since Pop has a few guys playing well at the spot. Also won't cost nearly as much as Ball.

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I love Murray’s game and fit with us.

Murray will cost more than Ball. Don’t let their draft position fool you. Murray is a much better player. No way Pop traded him unless it’s for a lottery pick. No way Ball nets a lottery pick for the Lakers.

#7 for Murray would be a slick steal.

That’d be a massive overpay for a guy coming off an acl who has shot 28% from 3. He’s riskier than Lonzo but I’d trade for him if we traded back and got 14 and 20 from Celts. Send 20 for him.

[TheJordanRule]

I love Murray’s game and fit with us.

Murray will cost more than Ball. Don’t let their draft position fool you. Murray is a much better player. No way Pop traded him unless it’s for a lottery pick. No way Ball nets a lottery pick for the Lakers.

#7 for Murray would be a slick steal.

That’d be a massive overpay for a guy coming off an acl who has shot 28% from 3. He’s riskier than Lonzo but I’d trade for him if we traded back and got 14 and 20 from Celts. Send 20 for him.

I don't see how. Murray is better than any PG prospect we could grab at #7.

[Chi town]

#7 for Murray would be a slick steal.

That’d be a massive overpay for a guy coming off an acl who has shot 28% from 3. He’s riskier than Lonzo but I’d trade for him if we traded back and got 14 and 20 from Celts. Send 20 for him.

I don't see how. Murray is better than any PG prospect we could grab at #7.

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No way I trade 7 for D Murray

[Beans]

It's a truism that the NBA is a superstar driven league. However since everyone knows this, superstars are usually really hard to acquire. The best teams in the NBA have gotten them on the cheap. The Bucks got Giannis at 15 in the draft, the Rockets got Harden for two decent vets and two mid round firsts. Curry was drafted at 7. The Raptors got Kawhi at a discount due to his pending FA.

Who are the buy low superstar candidates that the Bulls should be looking at?

One NBA guy that comes to mind for me is Ben Simmons. I don't think he pairs well with Embiid and his lack of shooting does dampen his upside. If he does fix that though, he's going to be one of the best players in the league. If Philly is willing to trade him, I think the Bulls should be all over it.

In the draft, after watching more of Darius Garland, I see a lot of Kyrie Irving (hopefully minus the weird moodiness). I'd look to move up a few picks if needed.

Any other candidates?

Giannis, Curry, Mitchell, Green, Leonard, Butler, Liliard, Kuzma, etc were gems found outside of the top picks. We need to find one of those and them to a good deep well rounded roster to be a contender.

[Axolotl]

Giannis, Curry, Mitchell, Green, Leonard, Butler, Liliard, Kuzma, etc were gems found outside of the top picks. We need to find one of those and them to a good deep well rounded roster to be a contender.

They had a developmental arc that couldn't really be predicted. In that sense they were not so much found but lucked upon. But yeah, some team(s) is likely to get lucky in this draft too. The top is thin, but there seems to be solid depth in the first round, probably a player or two who with some polishing turn out to be gems.

[samwana]

Based on these boards, I'd consider Payton underrated. He's been called a scrub, which he is not. I wouldn't go as far as to say he has superstar potential, but potential he does have.

A pass first PG, pretty good on the rim, but not much of a shooter. Seems to know where to go when bringing the ball to the offensive end.

It's hard to imagine him being too bad.. I was surprised his stock had fallen so low that Phoenix didn't bring him back even. When healthy it seemed like he played well for NOP.. definitely a guy you could give a crack as a backup and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a good season.

I’m surprised we haven’t been linked to him since he is a cheap option that only makes us better at PG. plus IIRC the FO really wanted him in his draft so now is the perfect time to get him for cheap.

I like him too, especially on the cheap. What would it take? 3/12 or 3/15? both seem okay for me. Way better than Blakeney, better than Dunn and Archie.

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