NBA Trade Thread # 3

gobullschi · Post #121 » by **gobullschi** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 5:23 pm

Any chance Detroit trades us Jerami Grant? He’s best friends with Victor Oladipo, which could help us recruit him here. Plus, he’s having a pretty incredible season at only 26 years old.

DroseReturnChi · Post #122 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:02 pm

MisterRoy wrote:
boozapalooza wrote:
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Lavine and Hutchinson for M.Robinson, Knox, Nikitlina and Dallas 21&23 frp (23 is top 10 protected). Bulls make sure to avoid number 7 pick and place in top three in lottery while aquiring center for the future in Robinson and taking flier on Knox and Nikitlina. Dallas pick this year could very likley end up in late lottery or in worst case mid first round. Bulls would have P.Williams as sf, M.Robinson as center, possibly Markkanen if resigned as pf, White,Knox,Carter as second unit and chance to select pointguard of the future Cade/Suggs in 21 draft or J.Green to replace Lavine as starting sg. Plus cap space to sign either pg or sg of the future through free agency. With late lottery pick in 21 they could gamble on athlethic upside of Greg Brown,Keon Johnson or B.Boston.

Any Lavine to NY deal needs to be centered around Quickley....he would be a nice PG of the future

Quickley, Knox, and the Dallas FRPs for Zach

That's giving away Zach. Gotta get more back.

Sent from somewhere you've never been.

no man. see iq play thats an overpay by knicks highway robbery.

DroseReturnChi · Post #123 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:04 pm

gobullschi wrote:Any chance Detroit trades us Jerami Grant? He’s best friends with Victor Oladipo, which could help us recruit him here. Plus, he’s having a pretty incredible season at only 26 years old.

Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

gobullschi · Post #124 » by **gobullschi** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:24 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Any chance Detroit trades us Jerami Grant? He’s best friends with Victor Oladipo, which could help us recruit him here. Plus, he’s having a pretty incredible season at only 26 years old.

Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

sco · Post #125 » by **sco** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:34 pm

gobullschi wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Any chance Detroit trades us Jerami Grant? He’s best friends with Victor Oladipo, which could help us recruit him here. Plus, he’s having a pretty incredible season at only 26 years old.

Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

I really want Grant. I think the way to get Grant would be to take on Griffin's contract and trade back Otto and Lauri. Grant/PWill would be awesome forwards. We could even get away with an offensive C because our forwards could help defensively.

gobullschi · Post #126 » by **gobullschi** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 7:16 pm

sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

I really want Grant. I think the way to get Grant would be to take on Griffin's contract and trade back Otto and Lauri. Grant/PWill would be awesome forwards. We could even get away with an offensive C because our forwards could help defensively.

I doubt they want to include Griffin to lower the return they can get for Grant.

Kukoc-Lauri · Post #127 » by **Kukoc-Lauri** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 10:20 pm

Valnaciunas, Dieng,Kyle Anderson and Tuys Jones for Otto Porter Jr., W.Carter Jr. and Chandler Hutchinson, blockbuster with Memphis. Upgrade at center, bad expiring but still rotational player in Dieng, Slow Mo as wing pg and Jones as backup starter/closer with perimeter defense and passing. Otto and Carter would fit well with Morant and Jackson.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #128 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 11:20 pm

Noted a few days ago that there was a rumor that Drummond would be asking for a buyout to join the Nets, now? that does not seem to be the case since the Cavs have no interest in buying him out per Michael Scotto. Drummond shouldn't neither since bird rights are important if he wants another big deal, (though a "big deal" may not happen so bird rights could be irrelevant). Though things could change.

I'd like the Bulls to show interest. Maybe a deal that surrounds OPJ+future 2nds? Drummond won't garner that much interest since he does have flaw that is not including the contract, but he is a good fit in Chicago.

DroseReturnChi · Post #129 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 1:42 am

gobullschi wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Any chance Detroit trades us Jerami Grant? He’s best friends with Victor Oladipo, which could help us recruit him here. Plus, he’s having a pretty incredible season at only 26 years old.

Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

good point. didnt realize they saw grants talent. nevertheless 2021/22 is a great draft I dont see the Bulls abandoning the pick with literally no protection.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #130 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:13 am

sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Grant is a great piece but would Bulls sacrifice pick 2022? I dont think AK gambles since he is a draft junkie.

AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

I really want Grant. I think the way to get Grant would be to take on Griffin's contract and trade back Otto and Lauri. Grant/PWill would be awesome forwards. We could even get away with an offensive C because our forwards could help defensively.

Part of the reason I thought Grant signed in Detroit was to focus on social justice issues in the city.

It would be a horrid look for Detroit to just trade him not even a season into this deal. I’d assume he’s pretty untouchable.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #131 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:18 am

Pacers trade: Turner, McDermott
Bulls trade: WCJ, Lauri, Felicio, Hutch, 2022 1st (lottery protected)

Pelicans trade: Ball
Bulls trade: Sato, 2021 2nd rounder

Bulls solve their weakest positions at point and center. They also get 2 strong defensive players, including Turner who is a top 5 DPOY candidate.

Ball, White
Lavine, White
Pat Williams, Temple
Doug, Thad
Turner, Gafford

That’s a playoff team, and still very young. Adding a mid round 2021 1st and they’ll still have some salary to play with in the offseason to add pieces.

gobullschi · Post #132 » by **gobullschi** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:22 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
sco wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
AK signed Jerami Grant in Denver and Billy Donovan coached him in OKC, so there is some familiarity with the guys making decisions.

He’s only making 19M/annually, which is a huge bargain for a guy averaging 24 PPG, 6 RPG, & 3 APG. He’s also another two way player which would improve the Bulls defense.

I really want Grant. I think the way to get Grant would be to take on Griffin's contract and trade back Otto and Lauri. Grant/PWill would be awesome forwards. We could even get away with an offensive C because our forwards could help defensively.

Part of the reason I thought Grant signed in Detroit was to focus on social justice issues in the city.

It would be a horrid look for Detroit to just trade him not even a season into this deal. I’d assume he’s pretty untouchable.

What about social justice issues in Chicago?

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #133 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:28 am

gobullschi wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
sco wrote:I really want Grant. I think the way to get Grant would be to take on Griffin's contract and trade back Otto and Lauri. Grant/PWill would be awesome forwards. We could even get away with an offensive C because our forwards could help defensively.

Part of the reason I thought Grant signed in Detroit was to focus on social justice issues in the city.

It would be a horrid look for Detroit to just trade him not even a season into this deal. I’d assume he’s pretty untouchable.

What about social justice issues in Chicago?

What about them? You’d have to ask Grant, not me.

I don’t think it’s ever a good look if a team trades a player 3 months after signing them, and when you add off the court reasons, it makes it tenfold worse.

sco · Post #134 » by **sco** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 2:37 pm

I really like Noel. He's a better defensive anchor than Carter. Knox is out of favor, but might give us some forward depth if Lauri goes. NY needs 3pt shooting...so what about?

Valentine/Gafford/Kornet for Noel/Knox.

gobullschi · Post #135 » by **gobullschi** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:12 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
Part of the reason I thought Grant signed in Detroit was to focus on social justice issues in the city.

It would be a horrid look for Detroit to just trade him not even a season into this deal. I’d assume he’s pretty untouchable.

What about social justice issues in Chicago?

What about them? You’d have to ask Grant, not me.

I don’t think it’s ever a good look if a team trades a player 3 months after signing them, and when you add off the court reasons, it makes it tenfold worse.

Basketball is a business. I don’t see it being an issue, especially if he’s dealt to a team like Chicago. (Plenty of SJ issues here)

I love his two-way potential, contract, age, and fit, but I’m not sure how often a player gets dealt 3 months after being signed.

ChettheJet · Post #136 » by **ChettheJet** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:39 pm

sco wrote:Williams has lost his protection label from me. He isn't showing "elite talent" anymore...he should be on the table.

It's hard to respect the opinion of someone who within a 20 game span flip flops his opinion on the youngest player in the NBA. That's well beyond blowing with the prevailing wind, it's bordering on nonsense.

sco · Post #137 » by **sco** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:45 pm

ChettheJet wrote:
sco wrote:Williams has lost his protection label from me. He isn't showing "elite talent" anymore...he should be on the table.

It's hard to respect the opinion of someone who within a 20 game span flip flops his opinion on the youngest player in the NBA. That's well beyond blowing with the prevailing wind, it's bordering on nonsense.

Wait, you want rational discourse? HERE???

I'm not saying we should rush out and dump him, but if a star is in the table, I am of the opinion that talent trumps potential talent. The age thing is a bit of silly rhetoric on rookies...the fact that he's a few months younger than the other one-and-done rookies is meaningless!

weneeda2guard · Post #138 » by **weneeda2guard** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 4:00 pm

Dallas has some picks in their war chest

Might want to see what they willing to give us for lauri. Might get 2 picks out of them if they think we about to do this deal with the pelicans.

MrSparkle · Post #139 » by **MrSparkle** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 4:23 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:Dallas has some picks in their war chest

Might want to see what they willing to give us for lauri. Might get 2 picks out of them if they think we about to do this deal with the pelicans.

I can guarantee you sub-500 Dallas is not sending 2 picks for an injury prone, RFA Lauri who would be a redundant dud around Porzingis and Klieber.

weneeda2guard · Post #140 » by **weneeda2guard** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 4:29 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:Dallas has some picks in their war chest

Might want to see what they willing to give us for lauri. Might get 2 picks out of them if they think we about to do this deal with the pelicans.

I can guarantee you sub-500 Dallas is not sending 2 picks for an injury prone, RFA Lauri who would be a redundant dud around Porzingis and Klieber.

Nvm read an old article they don't even have the rights to their pick this season. Knicks about to get a good pick if Dallas don't turn it around