LaVine traded to the Kings as part of 3 team deal (Huerter, Tre Jones to Bulls)

[Guru]

Turrible. Like, what's the point?

Dunno if AKME checked the standings but SA wasn't getting that pick this year.

I think we get it back forever....

[Muzbar]

Is Collins is new starting center after Vuc is traded?

IF Vuc is traded.

Surely Jalen Smith gets the starting nod with Collins backing him up.

[kulaz3000]

Turrible. Like, what's the point?

Dunno if AKME checked the standings but SA wasn't getting that pick this year.

I think we get it back forever....

Yes, we aren't tied to the standings for the next 3 seasons. And keeping Zach (and if he stays healthy) keeps us on the cusp of possibly losing that pick likely each of the next 3 seasons.

[MrSparkle]

As bad as the trade as, and as bad as the TPE expiring for nothing *will* be (I mean, atleast facilitate some trades and get more picks)…

Atleast that 11th pick to SAS scenario isn’t happening. Though we need a top-4, not a 12th pick.

Still see AK having this team meander through the next 3 years. Play-in lotto hell.

[HomoSapien]

Sitting on it for some time here and I strongly dislike this trade.

The "best" thing we got back was a higher chance of keeping our own pick - which we probably could have kept while keeping Zach.

All the players we got back suck. And Huerter and Collins aren't even expiring. We'll have $34m tied to garbage instead of $43m tied to a good player.

Bulls front office looks like they did some tricky cap stuff with the trade to generate a giant Trade Exception, which is only interesting if they use it, which is unlikely because most trade exceptions don't get used.

Getting Flagg will still be a huge longshot. The worst teams are just too bad. I don't think any other player in this draft will be better than Zach.

Feels like a trade for the sake of making a trade.

We got worse in the short term, and this trade alone does nothing to improve our future outlook.

I don't want to defend the trade because it sucks, but it's worth clarifying that Spurs had control of our first through 2027 and it was only top 8 protected. That was a **** protection and to not have to worry about it for the next three seasons matters. Still a bad trade.

[drosestruts]

So Fox generates two more assist a game than Zach, plays better defense, is much much less efficient and also has never won a playoff series in his entire career and he's worth Zach and 3 1sts???

Lavine is a known loser/dummy. Hurts his value.

So is Fox

If Zach's a career loser. So is Fox.

[Muzbar]

Turrible. Like, what's the point?

Dunno if AKME checked the standings but SA wasn't getting that pick this year.

I mean, the Bulls are STILL sitting in the final play-in spot, it very much could have gone to the Spurs.

[MGB8]

Do the Bulls have the roster spots for this?

[DropStep]

Disappointed in the return, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the ramifications. My best very amateur sense of this is currently:
- no players that likely matter long-term come back. But...
- no real long-term money comes back
- even if we kept this year's pick, we still owed SA a pick later, so this is essentially a potentially good first round pick we get back, and we are definitely going to have a pick in this year's excellent draft barring something unforeseen. Who cares that it was ours to begin with when it comes to evaluating this trade in a vacuum - a pick at some point wasn't going to be ours, but now it is.
- the protections on that pick meant it locked up some things going into the future, since it was uncertain when it would convey, especially in concert with the ghost of the Portland pick still out there. That is resolved.
- we get a massive trade exception.

The prohibitive blocker on our salary cap is gone. There are multiple mid-sized trade pieces that can be used now. Future firsts may (?) be unlocked. And - the chicanery used to create that trade exception actually shows a little thought and creativity. It wasn't done by accident. I think a lot of the value of this trade to AK is in flexibility - we have options now where there were none. So yeah, it feels like we are not done.

[HomoSapien]

Can someone explain to me how the 27 million trade exception works ? How would we use it ?

We won't.

[Chi town]

I have to imagine we trade Vuc to GS for Looney and Schroder tomorrow. GS will offer us some 2nd rounders, but we'll insist on sending them a 2nd rounder instead.

Hahahaha.

Probably.

We need another top 20 1st in this draft. Ideally Coby for TDS and ORL 1st.

[Chi town]

Can someone explain to me how the 27 million trade exception works ? How would we use it ?

We won't.

Should be used to take on a bad contract and a 1st.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

Is Collins is new starting center after Vuc is traded?

IF Vuc is traded.

Surely Jalen Smith gets the starting nod with Collins backing him up.

True, but you just saw what we traded Zach for. I don't think they have a problem offloading Vuc if they really want to. We may just not like the return.

I would think the minutes would be something like:

C: Collins 32 / Smith 16
PF: Matas 30 / Smith 18

I'd be happy with that.

[dawhizz]

Is Collins is new starting center after Vuc is traded?

I’d much rather start Jalen.

[GoBlue72391]

Pretty impressive run they’ve had, this FO…

Absolutely hilarious if the Kings receive a FRP for Zach on draft night (or next year). Then again they’re incompetent themselves.

AK’s screw job with the 2020-24 roster isn’t even complete, yet.

This is what we get in AK's world:

Read on Twitter

Jeez, you could have at least put a NSFL warning on that.

[Chi town]

Turrible. Like, what's the point?

Dunno if AKME checked the standings but SA wasn't getting that pick this year.

I mean, the Bulls are STILL sitting in the final play-in spot, it very much could have gone to the Spurs.

Exactly.

Zach was traded for basically a mid future 1st.

Where we are we could drop in the lottery and would have had to send the pick to Spurs.

Folks need to see this as the Bulls getting a 1st.

We will know tank this and next season. We get Dybantsa or Peterson and we have our franchise player.

[DropStep]

Can someone explain to me how the 27 million trade exception works ? How would we use it ?

We won't.

That has certainly been the history.

[Muzbar]

Is Collins is new starting center after Vuc is traded?

IF Vuc is traded.

Surely Jalen Smith gets the starting nod with Collins backing him up.

True, but you just saw what we traded Zach for. I don't think they have a problem offloading Vuc if they really want to. We may just not like the return.

I would think the minutes would be something like:

C: Collins 32 / Smith 16
PF: Matas 30 / Smith 18

I'd be happy with that.

Surely they'll start Smith, they've barely played Smith at PF, I doubt they'll start now.

[Dan Z]

Pretty impressive run they’ve had, this FO…

Absolutely hilarious if the Kings receive a FRP for Zach on draft night (or next year). Then again they’re incompetent themselves.

AK’s screw job with the 2020-24 roster isn’t even complete, yet.

This is what we get in AK's world:

Read on Twitter

I've thought for awhile now that AK doesn't value picks very much.

Sigh.

[Muzbar]

Turrible. Like, what's the point?

Dunno if AKME checked the standings but SA wasn't getting that pick this year.

I mean, the Bulls are STILL sitting in the final play-in spot, it very much could have gone to the Spurs.

Exactly.

Zach was traded for basically a mid future 1st.

Where we are we could drop in the lottery and would have had to send the pick to Spurs.

Folks need to see this as the Bulls getting a 1st.

We will know tank this and next season. We get Dybantsa or Peterson and we have our franchise player.