AKME stands pat

[TheSuzerain]

Not trading Coby is a fail.

Nobody wanted Vuc and we paid way too much when Resigning him.

[SpongeWorthy]

They tried to trade them aggressively.

Didn't get what they wanted.

No one is a free agent outside of Tre Jones

They will once again try to trade them aggressively in the offseason.

As someone who likes the entertainment of trades I would have loved a complete blowup.

As someone who likes game theory I don't get how anyone is mad. They aren't losing 1 asset.

This summer/next season they are going to have 82Million in expiring contracts plus all their picks

Stars haven’t been sold on Just Capspace in a very long time. You need more sizzle than that which is why we should be looking to be as bad as possible for the rest of the season and next which is where this deadline failed.

[kodo]

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I guess mediocrity it is

When the VP spews such idiotic drivel & nonsense which is easily proven false by just looking at every championship team, the fault now lies with ownership. AK is a basketball moron, and so the problem lies with his superiors who haven't fired him and worse keep extending him. Our core problem is the same as it always was, the ownership group. They're the ones who hire the FO.

[Evil_Headband]

I'm not mad.

I also didn't expect them to blow it up despite what the Internet was saying. AK got the job in the first place by selling an anti-tanking philosophy and has stuck to that. No surprise.

The Bulls have put themselves in a good situation next year. They should have over $80 million in expiring contracts, all their first rounders, and a few nice young players. They could use that to trade for a star player or two if if the opportunities present themselves.

I don't think the Hinkie model is the necessary model in team building. AK is right in that regard.

I also have another confession to make. I like watching this team. I enjoy rooting for, in particular, Coby and Ayo and Lonzo and suddenly now Matas. I can tolerate most of the others. I also like listening to Billy talk and explain basketball from his perspective.

Do you enjoy watching opposite players dunking or picking an open lane to the basket while Vuc keep watching them?Can you tolerate that every single **** game?

I purposely didn't mention Vucevic.

[2weekswithpay]

Wiz have a 52% chance of landing top 4 pick. Bulls have 26%. Given there is almost no talent on that roster and the fact pick 8 has a decent chance to be better than 4, I think we're in the better position.

Bulls have a mix of young rotation players. Matas only guy with star potential. Bulls wasted too much time chasing mediocre vets. But they have tradeable pieces. Just have to look for advantageous deals.

It's not just a top 5 pick, the Wizards have so many opportunities to add talent to their roster over the next 2-3 seasons. The Bulls are a below average team despite playing in a weak conference, while also being in the negative in draft capital.

What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?

Draft capital and all the benefits that having multiple young players and draft picks gives you. They don't apply to the Bulls because the Bulls only have one extra FRP and it lottery protected.

[WindyCityBorn]

My positive spin is it was an absolute miracle to get rid of Zach with no long term salary coming back. That's enough for me. I wish Vuc was never given his contract or traded for, but I'm not surprised tha basically nobody wanted to trade for him. I'm not really mad about that.

I think they were thinking of trading Coby then saw how bad our offense was last game without Coby.

What good does trading Zach actually do for us though if we aren’t completely tearing it down? He was actually living up to his contract again this season.

If we are gonna push for 35 wins either way at least he was fun to watch. Getting our pick back is great, but if it will be be outside the top 10 it’s not much to get excited about.

As of right now there is a decent chance that trading Zach does absolutely nothing to really improve our future.

[coldfish]

As far as AKME's "medley of good players" concept.

I won't even disagree. I'll just point out that in order to pull that off, a GM would have to be spectacularly good at evaluating talent and signing them to value contracts. That is most certainly NOT AKME.

He is effectively making an observation as to what a really good GM could do, like a 5'10" guy commenting on Jokic.

[WindyCityBorn]

I’m actually shock this fool said you build championship team nothing but role players. What is gonna take to get him fired. I’d be fine making Donovan coach and GM. I don’t think he could a worse job.

I’m done ranting. I definitely will not watch another Bulls game this season unless it is the pathetic play-in which I hope we don’t make.

[SfBull]

Without superstars your team is going nowhere. Bulls seem to have no interest in ever getting young superstar again

Cope on Matas all you want. If he the best we will get it’s already over. Our only hope is to luck into a top 4 pick this year.

Still AK can screw up things drafting another Pat

[MAQ]

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I guess mediocrity it is

When the VP spews such idiotic drivel & nonsense which is easily proven false by just looking at every championship team, the fault now lies with ownership. AK is a basketball moron, and so the problem lies with his superiors who haven't fired him and worse keep extending him. Our core problem is the same as it always was, the ownership group. They're the ones who hire the FO.

I mean ownership is always in the crosshairs of the Chicago fanbase, so to say I agree would be the biggest "duh" ever.

That said, AK either thinks everyone's dumb as **** or he's the one that's dumb as ****. If he truly believes a 9 - 10 role player team is a path to a title then he doesn't know what he's doing and should be fired immediately. You have 1 example in 75 years where this is true. Or 1 example in the last 45 years aka, modern(ish) NBA. Maybe 2 depending on how you view Tatum/Brown.

Let's wrap this up guys. Move on.

[jnrjr79]

As far as AKME's "medley of good players" concept.

I won't even disagree. I'll just point out that in order to pull that off, a GM would have to be spectacularly good at evaluating talent and signing them to value contracts. That is most certainly NOT AKME.

He is effectively making an observation as to what a really good GM could do, like a 5'10" guy commenting on Jokic.

One thing that occurred to me hearing that is that that’s already what the Bulls were doing in his first build of the team. The Bulls had a pretty deep squad of quality players, including a couple guys that were viable 2/3 options, but had zero true superstars. And though they accumulated a good bit of talent, the whole was less than the sum of its parts. So I’m deeply skeptical of this idea that “we’ll build a very deep team that gets to the top of the mountain despite not being top-heavy” as a plan AK could ever achieve (setting aside how good a plan it would even be with a good GM).

[burlydee]

It's not just a top 5 pick, the Wizards have so many opportunities to add talent to their roster over the next 2-3 seasons. The Bulls are a below average team despite playing in a weak conference, while also being in the negative in draft capital.

What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

[SpongeWorthy]

What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

This isn’t an argument either.

[SfBull]

What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

Bulls future isn't bright for sure

[Guru]

Not trading Drummond was far worse than anything they did this year.

[dice]

guess we need another billboard

[WindyCityBorn]

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They tried to trade them aggressively.

Didn't get what they wanted.

No one is a free agent outside of Tre Jones

They will once again try to trade them aggressively in the offseason.

As someone who likes the entertainment of trades I would have loved a complete blowup.

As someone who likes game theory I don't get how anyone is mad. They aren't losing 1 asset.

This summer/next season they are going to have 82Million in expiring contracts plus all their picks

Who cares about cap space? We don’t have any assets worth anything.

No stars are signing with Chicago and rightfully so. This is a completely unserious and incompetent organization.

[Muzbar]

What are those opportunities and how do they not apply to the Bulls?

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

People said the same things about Detroit last year.

[burlydee]

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

This isn’t an argument either.

You have message board brain. You haven't made an argument or a point at all.

The entire argument for the Wiz is that they have a 25% chance for a better pick.

My argument is that the Bulls have actual live players people want to trade for and a lottery pick in the same draft. The Wiz have zero talent on their roster. Someone this is like Detroit. No, Detroit had Cade.

The average age of the Wiz is 25.1. Bulls? 25.6. If you put Giannis on the Bulls I think they'd win 50 games. If you put him on the Wiz I think they lose 50. That is the difference imo.

[Mk0]

They have a ~100 percent chance of getting a top five pick and the best odds of getting the number one pick in what everyone pretty much believes is a great draft.

The “well ackchually a lot of highly drafted guys don’t pan out” piece isn’t actually an argument.

You're right the Wizards future is bright. How could I ever question it.

People said the same things about Detroit last year.

OKC did the same. Eat some bad contracts while tanking and get draft picks for compensation.

It isn't a new tactic and if you make the best of it you can get some real value back when those bad contracts are expirings.