Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest

[drosestruts]

Kuminga vs the Bulls

Kuminga's 48 dunks would rank 2nd on the Bulls this year, mind you, he only played in 47 games. If we go to last season he had 138 dunks, which would be over twice as many as Matas had this year to lead the Bulls at 65. Dunks are very effecient shots.

Kumingas ability to get to the rim and score is unmatched on this team - 22% of his field goals come at the rim and he converts 73%+ on them over the past two years.

For a comparison again - 30% of Matas's FGA come between 0-3, he only converts 63% of them.

Another benefit of Kuminga attacking the rim is his FT Rate of 41.4% - this would lead the Bulls by a wide margin, who were led last year in this stats by THT at 33.7%

[kodo]

I feel like he is the Jordan Poole of PFs. Like he can put up 20pts with 2 airballs and 3 terrible attempts all in the same game.

Oof. I wouldn't go that far. I don't see too many shots he takes where I'd grab my head and wonder if it's the And-1 league. He's mostly attacking the basket or taking a wide open jumper because the defense is fine laying off him.

If there's a comp I'd say Orlando Aaron Gordon. Very athletic and incredible slashing to the basket & finishing, great body control + vertical. Really not much he can do if he can't slash all the way to the rim. Gordon is career 33.1% from 3, Kuminga so far is 33.2%.

It's interesting because Orlando also just S&T'd Gordon because they couldn't figure out how to make him a #1 option or even #2 TBH, and he wasn't a great defender earlier on.

[boozapalooza]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

[sco]

If it did happen, If I'm the Bulls, I'd wait til after the draft.

[Peelboy]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

Just IMO, PW would be a better fit than Kuminga for GS. With Steph, Jimmy, and even guys like Podz, a good 3&D wing is much more useful than a better scorer but worse defender. With GS and under Kerr, I suspect PW would be more of a contributor than with the Bulls. Change of scenery, what seems like a supportive coach (useful for passive, weak minded guys like PW), can defend wings and bigs and hit the #, basically filling the Wiggins role. Better for them than JK and cheaper/shorter. So depends on whether they think PW is remotely valuable or a complete waste of space.

[TheJordanRule]

Kuminga vs the Bulls

Kuminga's 48 dunks would rank 2nd on the Bulls this year, mind you, he only played in 47 games. If we go to last season he had 138 dunks, which would be over twice as many as Matas had this year to lead the Bulls at 65. Dunks are very effecient shots.

Kumingas ability to get to the rim and score is unmatched on this team - 22% of his field goals come at the rim and he converts 73%+ on them over the past two years.

For a comparison again - 30% of Matas's FGA come between 0-3, he only converts 63% of them.

Another benefit of Kuminga attacking the rim is his FT Rate of 41.4% - this would lead the Bulls by a wide margin, who were led last year in this stats by THT at 33.7%

You make a strong case, brother. Count me in as a proponent of trading for Kuminga. What can we give GS in exchange? The #12 pick and Coby?

[Dez]

Kuminga vs the Bulls

Kuminga's 48 dunks would rank 2nd on the Bulls this year, mind you, he only played in 47 games. If we go to last season he had 138 dunks, which would be over twice as many as Matas had this year to lead the Bulls at 65. Dunks are very effecient shots.

Kumingas ability to get to the rim and score is unmatched on this team - 22% of his field goals come at the rim and he converts 73%+ on them over the past two years.

For a comparison again - 30% of Matas's FGA come between 0-3, he only converts 63% of them.

Another benefit of Kuminga attacking the rim is his FT Rate of 41.4% - this would lead the Bulls by a wide margin, who were led last year in this stats by THT at 33.7%

You make a strong case, brother. Count me in as a proponent of trading for Kuminga. What can we give GS in exchange? The #12 pick and Coby?

F*** no.

Nothing valuable would be traded.

Also Kuminga has the BBIQ of a rock.

[TheJordanRule]

Kuminga vs the Bulls

Kuminga's 48 dunks would rank 2nd on the Bulls this year, mind you, he only played in 47 games. If we go to last season he had 138 dunks, which would be over twice as many as Matas had this year to lead the Bulls at 65. Dunks are very effecient shots.

Kumingas ability to get to the rim and score is unmatched on this team - 22% of his field goals come at the rim and he converts 73%+ on them over the past two years.

For a comparison again - 30% of Matas's FGA come between 0-3, he only converts 63% of them.

Another benefit of Kuminga attacking the rim is his FT Rate of 41.4% - this would lead the Bulls by a wide margin, who were led last year in this stats by THT at 33.7%

You make a strong case, brother. Count me in as a proponent of trading for Kuminga. What can we give GS in exchange? The #12 pick and Coby?

F*** no.

Nothing valuable would be traded.

Also Kuminga has the BBIQ of a rock.

The IQ of a rock? Surely not a rock, brother. At least a plant or salamander of some kind? LOL! I remember people arguing that Boozer had the same problem, even when he was very productive but our offense is gonna be led by Giddey. He's not gonna pass to an offensive blackhole without setting him up for a score first.

[Muzbar]

Surely if the Bulls pick CMB or similar that would end the Bulls interest in Kuminga.

[dougthonus]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

Not that I think this is likely, but if Kuminga would take a starting salary of the TPE from the LaVine trade, then GS doesn't have to take back anything. If GS generally couldn't find a deal with salary coming back that they want, Kuminga might be deciding between something like that or the QO.

Also, because he's an RFA, base year restrictions apply to him which make a trade more and more difficult the higher his salary goes, though now that you can take players into the MLE as a trade, it is a lot easier than it was in the past.

[MrSparkle]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

Not that I think this is likely, but if Kuminga would take a starting salary of the TPE from the LaVine trade, then GS doesn't have to take back anything. If GS generally couldn't find a deal with salary coming back that they want, Kuminga might be deciding between something like that or the QO.

Also, because he's an RFA, base year restrictions apply to him which make a trade more and more difficult the higher his salary goes.

Interesting, nevertheless.

Am I reading right - it's $26M?

Also, wouldn't a better use of the TPE (whatever it is) be to take a 1Y salary + FRP compensation?

[dougthonus]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

Not that I think this is likely, but if Kuminga would take a starting salary of the TPE from the LaVine trade, then GS doesn't have to take back anything. If GS generally couldn't find a deal with salary coming back that they want, Kuminga might be deciding between something like that or the QO.

Also, because he's an RFA, base year restrictions apply to him which make a trade more and more difficult the higher his salary goes.

Interesting, nevertheless.

Am I reading right - it's $26M?

I believe it's 17.3M --

edit -- hollinger said 26M in an article, espn trade machine has it at 17.3M

[MrSparkle]

Not that I think this is likely, but if Kuminga would take a starting salary of the TPE from the LaVine trade, then GS doesn't have to take back anything. If GS generally couldn't find a deal with salary coming back that they want, Kuminga might be deciding between something like that or the QO.

Also, because he's an RFA, base year restrictions apply to him which make a trade more and more difficult the higher his salary goes.

Interesting, nevertheless.

Am I reading right - it's $26M?

I believe it's 17.3M

Edited and added it late, but wouldn't a better use of the TPE (whatever it is) be to take a 1Y salary + FRP compensation?

[waffle]

Nothing anyone says will convince me that Kuminga is anyting other than middling...just doesn't seem strategically sensible

[dougthonus]

Interesting, nevertheless.

Am I reading right - it's $26M?

I believe it's 17.3M

Edited and added it late, but wouldn't a better use of the TPE (whatever it is) be to take a 1Y salary + FRP compensation?

If there is a chance to get a 1st with your TPE, I would rather do that, but doesn't mean our management would rather do that. Also if you didn't see my edit, Hollinger said 26M in an article, ESPN trade machine has 17.3M, not sure which is correct.

FWIW, Hollinger is probably more believable of these two options, which actually makes this way more likely.

[MrSparkle]

I believe it's 17.3M

Edited and added it late, but wouldn't a better use of the TPE (whatever it is) be to take a 1Y salary + FRP compensation?

If there is a chance to get a 1st with your TPE, I would rather do that, but doesn't mean our management would rather do that. Also if you didn't see my edit, Hollinger said 26M in an article, ESPN trade machine has 17.3M, not sure which is correct.

I had no idea this TPE even existed.

Seems like a whole lot of options could open up. Not that I'd want these trades... But Minnesota being way into the 2nd apron, and wanting to probably resign Nazr (or needs to get something back)...

Some selection of Vuc, Lonzo, Jalen (much cheaper backup C for them) + TPE relief for 1 guy (Gobert, Nazr, Randle, McDaniels) and that 17th pick would be mutually beneficial.

(Not into those big Wolves contracts, but AK might be)

Of course, maybe they just don't care about paying a huge tax and standing pat with their WCF caliber squad. Could just add Fleming, Beringer, Sorber or one of the drops, and make some 1-for-1 lateral trades.

[dougthonus]

Edited and added it late, but wouldn't a better use of the TPE (whatever it is) be to take a 1Y salary + FRP compensation?

If there is a chance to get a 1st with your TPE, I would rather do that, but doesn't mean our management would rather do that. Also if you didn't see my edit, Hollinger said 26M in an article, ESPN trade machine has 17.3M, not sure which is correct.

I had no idea this TPE even existed.

Seems like a whole lot of options could open up. Not that I'd want these trades... But Minnesota being way into the 2nd apron, and wanting to probably resign Nazr (or needs to get something back)...

Some selection of Vuc, Lonzo, Jalen (much cheaper backup C for them) + TPE relief for 1 guy (Gobert, Nazr, Randle, McDaniels) and that 17th pick would be mutually beneficial.

(Not into those big Wolves contracts, but AK might be)

Of course, maybe they just don't care about paying a huge tax and standing pat with their WCF caliber squad. Could just add Fleming, Beringer, Sorber or one of the drops, and make some 1-for-1 lateral trades.

You can't combine a player and a TPE, the guy you trade for has to fit into the TPE, so the player must make less than the TPE. Assuming Hollinger is correct then Gobert is out. Randle probably wants more than 26M (and Minny probably keeps him at that price). McDaniels could fit in if they were down on him. Probably Reid on a new deal fits in that space too.

[NZB2323]

Nothing anyone says will convince me that Kuminga is anyting other than middling...just doesn't seem strategically sensible

He’s only 22 years old. I’d rather have him than PWill or Vuc.

[kulaz3000]

I’d be okay with him provided the contract is reasonable. If it’s in the mid 20’s, fine, if it’s bordering on the 30’s, I’m not keen at all.

[Indomitable]

KC says the only way this happens is if GS is willing to take back Vuc or PWill, and their Vuc interest has cooled off. I feel like both guys would fit well there, but GS probably isnt going to bite

I think this possibility is dead

Well the Warriors really are just going to let Curry end like this.