Potential Zach Trade Partners? 24/25 Edition

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With the emergence of Knecht I see no way Zach goes to the Lakers.

Last 7 games: 10 ppg on 38% shooting and 30% from 3. Lakers are 2-5. What emergence?

Hahaha. Bro your recency bias gave me a good chuckle.

Show me a recent rookie that has done what Knecht has done already this year? That’s what GMs look at.

If the Lakers want to win now, Zach is worth 5 times what Knecht is. Only trade Zach to Lakers if Knecht is included. Otherwise, LeBron can kiss that 5th ring goodbye.

[Clint Eastwood]

Last 7 games: 10 ppg on 38% shooting and 30% from 3. Lakers are 2-5. What emergence?

Hahaha. Bro your recency bias gave me a good chuckle.

Show me a recent rookie that has done what Knecht has done already this year? That’s what GMs look at.

If the Lakers want to win now, Zach is worth 5 times what Knecht is. Only trade Zach to Lakers if Knecht is included. Otherwise, LeBron can kiss that 5th ring goodbye.

Honestly, i prefer reeves to knecht

[TyrusRose2425]

I feel like the Warriors could be a fit. If we’re trying to tank for a few years, then Wiggins’ salary shouldn’t be a problem for us. Force them to pay with more 1sts for taking on that contract if anything.

[Muzbar]

I feel like the Warriors could be a fit. If we’re trying to tank for a few years, then Wiggins’ salary shouldn’t be a problem for us. Force them to pay with more 1sts for taking on that contract if anything.

Zach is almost paid double the amount Wiggins is, I doubt they'll fork over multiple 1sts for Wiggins 'bad contract' when they'll be getting an even bigger contract back for the same amount of years.

[Chi town]

I feel like the Warriors could be a fit. If we’re trying to tank for a few years, then Wiggins’ salary shouldn’t be a problem for us. Force them to pay with more 1sts for taking on that contract if anything.

Zach is almost paid double the amount Wiggins is, I doubt they'll fork over multiple 1sts for Wiggins 'bad contract' when they'll be getting an even bigger contract back for the same amount of years.

Exactly. Vuc could be a fit though.

[Onibuh]

I still don't like trading Zach, especially without anything close to being as good as him coming back.

We are winning some games because our younger guys show up more, Buzelis having good rookie numbers and Vuc/Lavine leading them. That's what I like to see and improve with. East has lots of teams that will look to tank as season goes on. We are stuck in that Play in Spot by the looks of it. Take it and try to keep that route going until there is a real chance to sell high or find that one Star player that pushes us out of the "not good enough to win, bad enough to pick Top 3" spot.

[sco]

I still don't like trading Zach, especially without anything close to being as good as him coming back.

We are winning some games because our younger guys show up more, Buzelis having good rookie numbers and Vuc/Lavine leading them. That's what I like to see and improve with. East has lots of teams that will look to tank as season goes on. We are stuck in that Play in Spot by the looks of it. Take it and try to keep that route going until there is a real chance to sell high or find that one Star player that pushes us out of the "not good enough to win, bad enough to pick Top 3" spot.

I'm still firmly in the camp that no team will be able/interested to make the salaries work in a deal for him during the season.

If we trade him for near equal talent, it would likely bring back a differently but equally flawed player on a bad deal...IMO the best you could hope for is that that player is younger so you have more time to get value for that guy. I'm thinking it's the Trae's, Ingram's, or Zion's of the world.

[Jcool0]

With the emergence of Knecht I see no way Zach goes to the Lakers.

Last 7 games: 10 ppg on 38% shooting and 30% from 3. Lakers are 2-5. What emergence?

Hahaha. Bro your recency bias gave me a good chuckle.

Show me a recent rookie that has done what Knecht has done already this year? That’s what GMs look at.

You want me to find you a rookie that averaged 11 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist (his season starts not recently)? Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke post.

[Chi town]

Last 7 games: 10 ppg on 38% shooting and 30% from 3. Lakers are 2-5. What emergence?

Hahaha. Bro your recency bias gave me a good chuckle.

Show me a recent rookie that has done what Knecht has done already this year? That’s what GMs look at.

You want me to find you a rookie that averaged 11 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist (his season starts not recently)? Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke post.

Did it for you.

https://youtu.be/dLlWKW2fJ90?si=fzkPzmouOCTg0gDB

[Jcool0]

Hahaha. Bro your recency bias gave me a good chuckle.

Show me a recent rookie that has done what Knecht has done already this year? That’s what GMs look at.

You want me to find you a rookie that averaged 11 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist (his season starts not recently)? Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke post.

Did it for you.

https://youtu.be/dLlWKW2fJ90?si=fzkPzmouOCTg0gDB

Is that the same guy who went 1-4 (0-2 from 3) for 2 points in 22 minutes in a 134-93 loss Wednesday?

[Chi town]

You want me to find you a rookie that averaged 11 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist (his season starts not recently)? Are you serious? Please tell me this is a joke post.

Did it for you.

https://youtu.be/dLlWKW2fJ90?si=fzkPzmouOCTg0gDB

Is that the same guy who went 1-4 (0-2 from 3) for 2 points in 22 minutes in a 134-93 loss Wednesday?

Normally teams don’t trade rookies that do what Knecht did in their first 20 games.

I wouldn’t trade Zach for less than Knecht or their 29 1st though.

Yes, Zach would be better than Knecht and help them win but Lebron has been so bad I don’t think Zach changes all that much for them. I don’t think the Lakers will make a trade that involves Knecht or that 1st.

[sco]

Did it for you.

https://youtu.be/dLlWKW2fJ90?si=fzkPzmouOCTg0gDB

Is that the same guy who went 1-4 (0-2 from 3) for 2 points in 22 minutes in a 134-93 loss Wednesday?

Normally teams don’t trade rookies that do what Knecht did in their first 20 games.

I wouldn’t trade Zach for less than Knecht or their 29 1st though.

Yes, Zach would be better than Knecht and help them win but Lebron has been so bad I don’t think Zach changes all that much for them. I don’t think the Lakers will make a trade that involves Knecht or that 1st.

Yeah, I'd be fine with Reeves instead. I like his moxy.

[MalagaBulls]

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[dougthonus]

If the Lakers want to win now, Zach is worth 5 times what Knecht is. Only trade Zach to Lakers if Knecht is included. Otherwise, LeBron can kiss that 5th ring goodbye.

If Zach were the gap between a title and not a title for the Lakers, he'd already be a Laker. I don't care much about Knecht one way or the other personally. He looks like a promising role player, but the Bulls aren't a promising role player away from anything, we're stocked with guys that have low rung starter / high end bench potential.

[Jcool0]

If the Lakers want to win now, Zach is worth 5 times what Knecht is. Only trade Zach to Lakers if Knecht is included. Otherwise, LeBron can kiss that 5th ring goodbye.

If Zach were the gap between a title and not a title for the Lakers, he'd already be a Laker. I don't care much about Knecht one way or the other personally. He looks like a promising role player, but the Bulls aren't a promising role player away from anything, we're stocked with guys that have low rung starter / high end bench potential.

Bulls aren't trading Zach to get better. They are trading him to move on and rebuild. So i hope they wouldn't get something back with the goal trying to win games. But i guess i cant put that past AKE.

[MGB8]

2nd apron is a killer.

Ultimately, wouldn’t be surprised with a trade to Detroit as they pivot towards being more competitive. LaVine for Hardaway Jr., Stewart and one of their young guys (Ivey or Holland), plus presumably a protected 1st, would work.

[drosestruts]

I still don't see us trading Zach. Too hard to do in-season due to cap rules and making it work from a roster standpoint.

[MrSparkle]

I don’t see Zach going unless it’s a completely unexpected wild card team.

Lavine/Vuc/Craig for Bane/Edey/Kennard/FRP(#27)/2 SRPs

Very weak return for our 2 “all-stars” but alas, I can’t think of any tangible trades for these two. Atleast you come away with younger replacements Bane and Edey (who’s so far injury prone and a low-mpg guy).

But get this done and you tank on. Honestly, they’re deeply past the point of return on assets. I don’t think the league cares if Zach and Vuc make the ASG: it’ll just make the meek return more painful. This is like when Niko became Super Niko, playing out his mind, but everyone knew he needed to be traded, so we got crap back (ended up basically being worse than just letting him walk).

On top of things, Jimmy may hit the trade market. If he does, he becomes every contender’s dream- not Zach/Vuc.

Memphis' depth chart would look strong. Bane went from MIP/emerging star to having a brutal season on his big extension, so I'm unaware whether he's having minor or major injury-related blues, just cold feet on a big deal, etc. He is a 26yo 2-way player, but last thing I want is a guy paid similarly and longer than Zach, with injury issues. MEM would still have picks and contracts to bring another big time player if they want to maneuver next year, and Lavine's contract will just get better each year till he expires (not to mention Vuc's 20m).

[dougthonus]

If the Lakers want to win now, Zach is worth 5 times what Knecht is. Only trade Zach to Lakers if Knecht is included. Otherwise, LeBron can kiss that 5th ring goodbye.

If Zach were the gap between a title and not a title for the Lakers, he'd already be a Laker. I don't care much about Knecht one way or the other personally. He looks like a promising role player, but the Bulls aren't a promising role player away from anything, we're stocked with guys that have low rung starter / high end bench potential.

Bulls aren't trading Zach to get better. They are trading him to move on and rebuild. So i hope they wouldn't get something back with the goal trying to win games. But i guess i cant put that past AKE.

Agreed, which is why I wouldn't toe the line at Knecht one way or the other. He's an okay prospect, but he's nearly 24 already and isn't a #1/#2 option type upside guy.

[Dez]

I don’t see Zach going unless it’s a completely unexpected wild card team.

Lavine/Vuc/Craig for Bane/Edey/Kennard/FRP(#27)/2 SRPs

Very weak return for our 2 “all-stars” but alas, I can’t think of any tangible trades for these two. Atleast you come away with younger replacements Bane and Edey (who’s so far injury prone and a low-mpg guy).

But get this done and you tank on. Honestly, they’re deeply past the point of return on assets. I don’t think the league cares if Zach and Vuc make the ASG: it’ll just make the meek return more painful. This is like when Niko became Super Niko, playing out his mind, but everyone knew he needed to be traded, so we got crap back (ended up basically being worse than just letting him walk).

On top of things, Jimmy may hit the trade market. If he does, he becomes every contender’s dream- not Zach/Vuc.

Memphis' depth chart would look strong. Bane went from MIP/emerging star to having a brutal season on his big extension, so I'm unaware whether he's having minor or major injury-related blues, just cold feet on a big deal, etc. He is a 26yo 2-way player, but last thing I want is a guy paid similarly and longer than Zach, with injury issues. MEM would still have picks and contracts to bring another big time player if they want to maneuver next year, and Lavine's contract will just get better each year till he expires (not to mention Vuc's 20m).

Huh? Memphis would never do this and the Bulls would absolutely jump at it.