2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2

[gobullschi]

You mean RJ Barrett?

Can’t see Hayes falling past Detroit. RJ Hampton was interviewed by the Bulls, which could be a signal that he’s a target in a trade down scenario, but it’s more likely AK just doing his due diligence.

I would gladly take Barrett tho

Hampton isn't even projected as a top 10 pick. Why would they trade out of #4 down to #8 to take Hampton?
He's more along the lines of a pick between #14 and #22 that you trade back into the 1st for to take as a extra 1st rounder.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

[Jvaughn]

Can’t see Hayes falling past Detroit. RJ Hampton was interviewed by the Bulls, which could be a signal that he’s a target in a trade down scenario, but it’s more likely AK just doing his due diligence.

I would gladly take Barrett tho

Hampton isn't even projected as a top 10 pick. Why would they trade out of #4 down to #8 to take Hampton?
He's more along the lines of a pick between #14 and #22 that you trade back into the 1st for to take as a extra 1st rounder.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

I would. He has no discernible NBA skill. There's a reason he dropped from top 5 projection to late 1st. Now as a late 1st pick he's worth the gamble, but outside of the Knicks I can't imagine there's a FO willing to put their careers at risk by taking him in the top 10.

[Andi Obst]

The Hampton hype, especially after the recent worthless empty gym vids, is just baffling to me. I absolutely don't see it.

[PlayerUp]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

There isn't a current team in the Top 10 that would consider him. More likely he drops into late 1st Round.

[JohnnyTapwater]

Don't forget who was on that Hampton hype train first - don't forget my stars -

1. LaMelo Ball
2. James Wiseman
3. Deni Avdija
4. RJ Hampton
5. Kira Lewis Jr.

[gobullschi]

Hampton isn't even projected as a top 10 pick. Why would they trade out of #4 down to #8 to take Hampton?
He's more along the lines of a pick between #14 and #22 that you trade back into the 1st for to take as a extra 1st rounder.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

I would. He has no discernible NBA skill. There's a reason he dropped from top 5 projection to late 1st. Now as a late 1st pick he's worth the gamble, but outside of the Knicks I can't imagine there's a FO willing to put their careers at risk by taking him in the top 10.

He’s the best athlete in this point guard class and has one of the highest upsides. GMs take risks on the best athletes every year. RJ Hampton is very similar to Dante Exum (who was the 5th pick). Hopefully he doesn’t have the same health issues that destroyed Exum's development.

I love when these top HS prospects go overseas and get humbled for the first time. Explains why he seems more mature than other prospects in this draft. This new draft combine format is going to make it difficult for him to boost his stock though.

[MGB8]

I feel like Wiseman is gonna be the best player in this draft and the chance he reaches his ceiling increases if the Warriors draft him. I wonder how much it would cost to trade up.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wiseman does end up being the best player in the draft, but I wouldn't trade up for him, either.

The upside/downside spreads on all of these draft picks are just too high, including, and maybe especially, Wiseman. The issues with him are (1) the devaluation of the center position in the NBA, generally, (2) lack of a proven shot from range, (3) while an impressive athlete for a center, particularly straight line and in terms of body control, not quite a "SF in a center's body."

This is a tough draft. No super blue chippers a la Lebron, Durant/Odon, Zion/Morant, Rose, KAT, etc.

Instead, it reminds me a lot of the Jabari Parker / Wiggins / Embiid draft. Talent but questions marks. And you look at those drafts - Parker and Wiggins both effective busts. Embiid the only true superstar from the first round, and he could easily have been a bust. Jokic a random superstar out of the 2nd round. But many solid starter NBA talents out of that draft, LaVine, Warren, Aaron Gordon, Randle, Nurkic, Bogdanovic, Capella, maybe 2nd rounders Dinwiddie and Jerami Grant --- and rotation level players Smart, Gary Harris, Hood, McDermott, Anderson, Saric, Inglis, Powell, Clarkson...

Point being that I think there's actually a lot of NBA talent, but I also think that this particular group is hard to project out (compounded by the lack of a tourney, a large number of non-NCAA higher prospects), and give that higher risk profile, probably not worth much of a cost to move up from 4.

[Jvaughn]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

I would. He has no discernible NBA skill. There's a reason he dropped from top 5 projection to late 1st. Now as a late 1st pick he's worth the gamble, but outside of the Knicks I can't imagine there's a FO willing to put their careers at risk by taking him in the top 10.

He’s the best athlete in this point guard class and has one of the highest upsides. GMs take risks on the best athletes every year. RJ Hampton is very similar to Dante Exum (who was the 5th pick). Hopefully he doesn’t have the same health issues that destroyed Exum's development.

I love when these top HS prospects go overseas and get humbled for the first time. Explains why he seems more mature than other prospects in this draft. This new draft combine format is going to make it difficult for him to boost his stock though.

He's the best athlete because there are no elite athletes in this draft that play PG. It's not because he's elite. He's not a mediocre athlete, but it's not a plus trait of his to the point that it would make a large difference at the next level.

I do agree he reminds me a lot of Dante Exum though. I know he's been through his injury struggles in the league, but I'm not sure his career trajectory would be anything better than rotation guard off the bench anyway.

[PlayerUp]

I would. He has no discernible NBA skill. There's a reason he dropped from top 5 projection to late 1st. Now as a late 1st pick he's worth the gamble, but outside of the Knicks I can't imagine there's a FO willing to put their careers at risk by taking him in the top 10.

He’s the best athlete in this point guard class and has one of the highest upsides. GMs take risks on the best athletes every year. RJ Hampton is very similar to Dante Exum (who was the 5th pick). Hopefully he doesn’t have the same health issues that destroyed Exum's development.

I love when these top HS prospects go overseas and get humbled for the first time. Explains why he seems more mature than other prospects in this draft. This new draft combine format is going to make it difficult for him to boost his stock though.

He's the best athlete because there are no elite athletes in this draft that play PG. It's not because he's elite. He's not a mediocre athlete, but it's not a plus trait of his to the point that it would make a large difference at the next level.

I do agree he reminds me a lot of Dante Exum though. I know he's been through his injury struggles in the league, but I'm not sure his career trajectory would be anything better than rotation guard off the bench anyway.

This. The draft lacks athletes and is more skill based which is also partially why this draft is being considered weak by many.

There is really no reason to consider RJ over someone like Kira Lewis Jr who is also fairly athletic / much quicker and has many more tools/skills.

[TheSuzerain]

The Hampton hype, especially after the recent worthless empty gym vids, is just baffling to me. I absolutely don't see it.

He is pretty athletic and has a nice frame for a guard. Basically taking a dice roll on skill development.

But yeah there's a sizeable chance he just becomes Jordan Clarkson. I'd say you start considering him in the late lotto.

[PlayerUp]

Wasserman’s latest mock had the Bulls trading down from 4 to 8 with the Knicks, picking up pick 38 and Kevin Knox. Then still got Hayes at 8.

This is a really trade for the Bulls. #38 pick can be bought for cash and Knox had the worst RPM stats in the NBA among all players last season. He is an awful overrated NBA player.



Bulls trading down makes sense but we can do better. Find a way to move the #4 in 2 trades that nets us 2 picks between #8-#20.

[The Chosen one]

I like Deni Adjiva! I think he might can run point in the NBA once he gains experience. I don’t think he can guard point guards though. I don’t think hes strong enough to guard 4s. But I like his ball handling and passing skills for a guy 6’9. He has deceptive speed with the ball in his hands. If he can get his 3 point shooting right he will be a great addition to the bulls. Edwards, Toppin, and Wiseman look very talented to!!

[MrFortune3]

Can’t see Hayes falling past Detroit. RJ Hampton was interviewed by the Bulls, which could be a signal that he’s a target in a trade down scenario, but it’s more likely AK just doing his due diligence.

I would gladly take Barrett tho

Hampton isn't even projected as a top 10 pick. Why would they trade out of #4 down to #8 to take Hampton?
He's more along the lines of a pick between #14 and #22 that you trade back into the 1st for to take as a extra 1st rounder.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hampton snuck into the top 10.

I'm going to go with the assumption that he's more likely to go #20 than #10...
Didn't have enough development to warrant a top 10 selection despite his lofty pre 2020 hype. Same for Jaden McDaniels and others.

[MrFortune3]

Don't forget who was on that Hampton hype train first - don't forget my stars -

1. LaMelo Ball
2. James Wiseman
3. Deni Avdija
4. RJ Hampton
5. Kira Lewis Jr.

Do you want a cookie?

I think Hampton is talented, I simply cannot fathom a scenario where he goes in the top 10-12 picks after the season he had. Especially without having the work out setting to show improvements.

[PlayerUp]

I like Deni Adjiva! I think he might can run point in the NBA once he gains experience. I don’t think he can guard point guards though. I don’t think hes strong enough to guard 4s. But I like his ball handling and passing skills for a guy 6’9. He has deceptive speed with the ball in his hands. If he can get his 3 point shooting right he will be a great addition to the bulls. Edwards, Toppin, and Wiseman look very talented to!!

Deni will be a 3.

[JohnnyTapwater]

Don't forget who was on that Hampton hype train first - don't forget my stars -

1. LaMelo Ball
2. James Wiseman
3. Deni Avdija
4. RJ Hampton
5. Kira Lewis Jr.

Do you want a cookie?

I think Hampton is talented, I simply cannot fathom a scenario where he goes in the top 10-12 picks after the season he had. Especially without having the work out setting to show improvements.

I do - Oatmeal raisin please.

I'd actually be shocked if he wasn't selected top 10.

I'll die on this hill...lol

[Southpaw]

I feel like Wiseman is gonna be the best player in this draft and the chance he reaches his ceiling increases if the Warriors draft him. I wonder how much it would cost to trade up.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wiseman does end up being the best player in the draft, but I wouldn't trade up for him, either.

The upside/downside spreads on all of these draft picks are just too high, including, and maybe especially, Wiseman. The issues with him are (1) the devaluation of the center position in the NBA, generally, (2) lack of a proven shot from range, (3) while an impressive athlete for a center, particularly straight line and in terms of body control, not quite a "SF in a center's body."

This is a tough draft. No super blue chippers a la Lebron, Durant/Odon, Zion/Morant, Rose, KAT, etc.

Instead, it reminds me a lot of the Jabari Parker / Wiggins / Embiid draft. Talent but questions marks. And you look at those drafts - Parker and Wiggins both effective busts. Embiid the only true superstar from the first round, and he could easily have been a bust. Jokic a random superstar out of the 2nd round. But many solid starter NBA talents out of that draft, LaVine, Warren, Aaron Gordon, Randle, Nurkic, Bogdanovic, Capella, maybe 2nd rounders Dinwiddie and Jerami Grant --- and rotation level players Smart, Gary Harris, Hood, McDermott, Anderson, Saric, Inglis, Powell, Clarkson...

Point being that I think there's actually a lot of NBA talent, but I also think that this particular group is hard to project out (compounded by the lack of a tourney, a large number of non-NCAA higher prospects), and give that higher risk profile, probably not worth much of a cost to move up from 4.

Yeah I can see Wiseman having a career similar to Noel if things don't pan out. The reason why I thought of a trade up is because everyone agrees that this is a week draft up top, maybe it'd wouldn't take as much assets as usual to trade up. But looking at MIN and GSW, we probably don't have much to offer them.

[MrFortune3]

Don't forget who was on that Hampton hype train first - don't forget my stars -

1. LaMelo Ball
2. James Wiseman
3. Deni Avdija
4. RJ Hampton
5. Kira Lewis Jr.

Do you want a cookie?

I think Hampton is talented, I simply cannot fathom a scenario where he goes in the top 10-12 picks after the season he had. Especially without having the work out setting to show improvements.

I do - Oatmeal raisin please.

I'd actually be shocked if he wasn't selected top 10.

I'll die on this hill...lol

So for your memorial service, would you prefer open or closed casket?

[StunnerKO]

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[PlayerUp]

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Another underwhelming prospect who dropped.