Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season

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So the Miami Heat are struggling even with a healthy Butler. They also have no pick this year which is unprotected and owned by OKC.

[ThreeMileAllan]

Man, NBA reddit has become insufferable with their hate on all boomer/millennial takes.


I prefer my NBA stars to build brand identity and loyalty by sticking around and toughing it out instead of teaming up.

Thank goodness the posters here skew older. (Thougj unfortunately the general board has become worse the longer LeBrons career goes on.)




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Man, NBA reddit has become insufferable with their hate on all boomer/millennial takes.


I prefer my NBA stars to build brand identity and loyalty by sticking around and toughing it out instead of teaming up.

Thank goodness the posters here skew older. (Thougj unfortunately the general board has become worse the longer LeBrons career goes on.)




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Reddit and twitter is awful. No good discussions, just awful hot takes and trolling by teenagers that depend on getting upvotes and retweets/likes for happiness, I feel for them.

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

[erlim]

Man, NBA reddit has become insufferable with their hate on all boomer/millennial takes.


I prefer my NBA stars to build brand identity and loyalty by sticking around and toughing it out instead of teaming up.

Thank goodness the posters here skew older. (Thougj unfortunately the general board has become worse the longer LeBrons career goes on.)




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Reddit and twitter is awful. No good discussions, just awful hot takes and trolling by teenagers that depend on getting upvotes and retweets/likes for happiness, I feel for them.

Yeah but I feel like every mix tape I see is amazing. It's like every single kid from gen-Z knows how to edit tape like nobody's business.

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Look, on the Bulls board we have debated and argued at nauseum all that mistakes Paxson has made over this time with the Bulls, but the complete overhaul he made with the roster once he was hired was some of the best moves he had made as part of the front office. With Eddie Robinson being one of the biggest problems on the team, and him not ever getting a career thereafter pretty much says it all.

At the end of the day though, this is a cut-throat business, with the key word being business, where players are moved with them having little to no control, it's part of it. That said, in recent years though, players have had more control in a way, in that they are now more regularly demanding trades, and you know what, it sucks if that player is on your team, but objectively, good for them! Make it an even playing field, if players are expected to honour their contracts, why aren't the teams also?

Eddie Robinson was a whole lot of wasted talented.

While I'm aware that the phrase "million dollar talent, 10 cent brain" wasn't invented to describe ERob, it is his picture in the dictionary next to the definition. ERob literally had All-NBA level skills.

Eddy Curry may have wasted more natural talent and ability, but he didn't care, he didn't even like basketball. ERob just wasted his skills, I'm not sure anybody knows why.

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I posted this a while back but it's worth watching. He indeed had a weird path to the NBA, not highly scouted or sought after, played in Junior College which doesn't happen really. Didn't seem like he was particularly close to that type of fraternity most pro-players these days have; clearly didn't have any political or personal friendship with Paxson. I mean, from a fan's perspective, I really wanted E-Rob to go, and Pax moving past some of our most desolate years was exciting at the time. It's easy to forget guys like E-Rob, guys you don't see consciously giving a lot on the court, have emotional investment and feel vulnerable in the business---I'll give you that.

As for Buckets, I mean Jimmy Butler is a great player, a franchise player. Zach Lavine is not there. But you also had Jimmy Butler dressing away from a team that had respected vets like DRose, Joakim Noah, and Pau Gasol, creating strange tension on a team that could do serious damage when they were firing on all cylinders. The Bulls FO made a choice, maybe a bad one, but it certainly wasn't some strictly personal vendetta like E-Rob might feel like it was.

You could tell Pax was short, thorny, and ornery from his interviews alone, but it's also kind of erroneous to say he's a know nothing blow hard. On one hand, he made some garbage moves, on the other you have guys like Steve Kerr attributing knowledge and savvy to him as a player and coach. He was on the coaching staff of the 1995-1996 club.

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

Yet Zach is all beatup and cannot get a call.

[FriedRise]

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

Yet Zach is all beatup and cannot get a call.

I feel like it's because Trae was selected as an All Star last year even though his team was worse than the Bulls. Double standard for sure because guys like Zach or Beal couldn't get in because of their teams record. The league just has a different set of rules for their all stars, which is why we really, really need Zach to get in this year. Once that happens, those whistles should be a lot easier to come by, which also means the Ws should be easier to get since we're not going 5v8 every night.

Zach is easily missing out on 3-5 free throws per game from no calls from the beating he takes whenever he drives. So in a way, he can still level up and tack on another 3-5 points from his current points average bolstering his efficiency even more, which is just insane.

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

Yet Zach is all beatup and cannot get a call.

I feel like it's because Trae was selected as an All Star last year even though his team was worse than the Bulls. Double standard for sure because guys like Zach or Beal couldn't get in because of their teams record. The league just has a different set of rules for their all stars, which is why we really, really need Zach to get in this year. Once that happens, those whistles should be a lot easier to come by, which also means the Ws should be easier to get since we're not going 5v8 every night.

Zach is easily missing out on 3-5 free throws per game from no calls from the beating he takes whenever he drives. So in a way, he can still level up and tack on another 3-5 points from his current points average bolstering his efficiency even more, which is just insane.

Trae got those calls in first year.

[MisterRoy]

The NBA built him up to be such a star they need to treat him like one to save face. This is what you get when that happens.


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[MrSparkle]

So the Miami Heat are struggling even with a healthy Butler. They also have no pick this year which is unprotected and owned by OKC.

Well they’re better than this, but they’ve been missing key guys. Herro and Robinson going through bigger role growing pains, but they’re also not going to be as good when Jimmy’s out. Losing Crowder and having Iguodala look more like a 37yo, Harkless injured... killed their nice PF-wing flow.

Anyway, started like bizarro season (CLE & ORL winning), but things are probably gonna become normal as MIA and TOR climb back. No way in hell Riley lets OKC get a lotto pick. He’ll buy talent if he has to.

[TheStig]

So the Miami Heat are struggling even with a healthy Butler. They also have no pick this year which is unprotected and owned by OKC.

Well they’re better than this, but they’ve been missing key guys. Herro and Robinson going through bigger role growing pains, but they’re also not going to be as good when Jimmy’s out. Losing Crowder and having Iguodala look more like a 37yo, Harkless injured... killed their nice PF-wing flow.

Anyway, started like bizarro season (CLE & ORL winning), but things are probably gonna become normal as MIA and TOR climb back. No way in hell Riley lets OKC get a lotto pick. He’ll buy talent if he has to.

Exactly, they'll get some vets like they always do.

I also wouldn't rule out a deal for a star. FA has really dried up and they have a ton of assets and contracts to make something happen.

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

Yet Zach is all beatup and cannot get a call.

The issue isn't Trae getting that call, it's that everyone in the NBA should get that call. Because the rules are that one sided for the offense. But they don't call that for everyone because we'd have 3 whistles on every possession.

The official rule, implemented in 2001:

Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from
point A to Point B ...

All the hacking the NBA did of the rules from ~2000 were just terrible, and would create an unwatchable product if the officials didn't let most of it go. But once you're in the realm of just subjectively calling things, it will naturally favor star players probably even without intent.

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From the GB, gruesome foul from Jaylen Brown..

Yet Zach is all beatup and cannot get a call.

The issue isn't Trae getting that call, it's that everyone in the NBA should get that call. Because the rules are that one sided for the offense. But they don't call that for everyone because we'd have 3 whistles on every possession.

The official rule, implemented in 2001:

Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from
point A to Point B ...

All the hacking the NBA did of the rules from ~2000 were just terrible, and would create an unwatchable product if the officials didn't let most of it go. But once you're in the realm of just subjectively calling things, it will naturally favor star players probably even without intent.

I am a fan of allowing teams to zone. Take away the 3 second rule. At least for a season. It would help a lot.

[Andi Obst]

The issue isn't Trae getting that call, it's that everyone in the NBA should get that call.

Correct. Refs reward players for selling calls and punish players who play on and rely on the refs to see the foul (or: do their job). It encourages players to do what Trae and Harden do all the time.

[pipfan]

Any interest in DeRozen as a FA? Maybe he could start in the backcourt with Lavine. The guy is still VERY solid, and might have a few all star type years left

[BullChit]

Any interest in DeRozen as a FA? Maybe he could start in the backcourt with Lavine. The guy is still VERY solid, and might have a few all star type years left

As a SF? How's his defence?

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[Andi Obst]

Any interest in DeRozen as a FA? Maybe he could start in the backcourt with Lavine. The guy is still VERY solid, and might have a few all star type years left

As a SF? How's his defence?

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Horrible.

[HomoSapien]

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Look, on the Bulls board we have debated and argued at nauseum all that mistakes Paxson has made over this time with the Bulls, but the complete overhaul he made with the roster once he was hired was some of the best moves he had made as part of the front office. With Eddie Robinson being one of the biggest problems on the team, and him not ever getting a career thereafter pretty much says it all.

At the end of the day though, this is a cut-throat business, with the key word being business, where players are moved with them having little to no control, it's part of it. That said, in recent years though, players have had more control in a way, in that they are now more regularly demanding trades, and you know what, it sucks if that player is on your team, but objectively, good for them! Make it an even playing field, if players are expected to honour their contracts, why aren't the teams also?

Eddie Robinson was a whole lot of wasted talented.

Just to clarify, I'm not necessarily in agreement with ERob, was just sharing it since it was sort of Bulls-related news.

[kulaz3000]

Just to clarify, I'm not necessarily in agreement with ERob, was just sharing it since it was sort of Bulls-related news.

I was responding to the tweets themselves. Not shooting the messenger!